They've heard you about it taking too long for the demo, and they agree. Life shit happens, team change-ups happen, but they know they need to give you something sooner rather than later. As a result Archie is cutting back on polishing the rigs and animations, and instead just getting them usable and focusing on churning out the animations faster alongside the new animator. That way the needed animations for the demo will be completed sooner and it can be released sooner. The polish for the rigs and animations will come later. The only animations that may get polished for the demo, aside from the completed front and back walk/run cycles, are the sex animations. If there's time, others may be touched up. Otherwise they'll be polished for the full game. Since the animations are the main time sink and delay, saving time on those should speed up the demo's release. Though to clarify, that doesn't mean the animations will be bad, there's still a commitment to quality, they just won't be super clean and representative of the full games animation quality.
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There are 80 pages of thread of them repeating the same thing you are saying here.
Nobody really cares about that stuff. There are funny bugs and glitches in every game. As long as it is functional and doesn't make the game unplayable nobody cares if her hair goes through her face in one random animation that happens once every playthrough.
Exactly, first make the game and then repairs bugs, but if you've been promising and showing the same image over and over again for eight months, which you can do in an afternoon or two, then something is wrong.
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It's good that they are mentioning this though. It sets expectations and makes sure people are not expecting mountains of high quality content, which is a reasonable assumption some people might have considering the waiting time.
It just should be playable without breaking the game, and not look like a pen-and-paper cutout drawing. As long as that's a given, getting from one place to another and doing gameplay stuff only needs to work in principle, it doesn't need to look polished to the last strand of hair.
People will pay the most attention to the primariy part of the game, which for many is still the h-scenes and the story-content/dialogue. Lets say for example they have a 2 - 3 h-scenes in the demo and a game that doesn't play like Fallout 76 - as long as they have tons over tons of non-repeating dialogue, backstory, etc, that can already make the game substantially better.
I hate nothing more than a game that is taking forever to get a version out "because of animations" and then you have literally 1000 words of dialogue across the entire game and nothing more. That is terrible, because it makes it look like it wasn't just the animations that were the problem, but that the entire team slacked once they realized animations would be less than expected.
So yeah. Lets hope the dialogue, story setup, etc. That we can get through a lot of that and get a lot of spicy implications and innuendos and intereactions between the characters involved, setting up this whole corruption storyline properly.
Im not really a furry. The main thing that enticed me about this game was the unique scenario and story setup. A main characer from an advanced civilization is stranded on a planet full of (relative) savages whos scocial structures are tribal by nature. And while there are strong females in the tribe (a good element!) the male dominance is still within the societal structure. Without a way to advance for now, she needs to adapt and do her part to earn her keep in the tribe, like any other member. She is slowly exposed to their customs and corrupted into becoming more like them. Its a unique setup, and one with a lot of potential to go in any direction really. From becoming a very dom member of the tribe making it her own and becoming maybe one of the leading figures, using her womanly charms to her advantage, to becoming a submissive obedient part of the society.
Something for everyone potentially, some choices and paths to go, and a lot of room for interesting backstory about plants, animals and customs in this backwater planet at the fringes of the universe.
That is basically the main thing that originally drew me to this game. And I put up with the point+click gameplay. That - while not terrible - was relatively repetitive and not very groundbreaking. But groundbreaking gameplay is not what I came for. Just like I do not play J-RPGs for the groundbreaking gameplay, that's not the point of them for me.
It just should be playable without breaking the game, and not look like a pen-and-paper cutout drawing. As long as that's a given, getting from one place to another and doing gameplay stuff only needs to work in principle, it doesn't need to look polished to the last strand of hair.
People will pay the most attention to the primariy part of the game, which for many is still the h-scenes and the story-content/dialogue. Lets say for example they have a 2 - 3 h-scenes in the demo and a game that doesn't play like Fallout 76 - as long as they have tons over tons of non-repeating dialogue, backstory, etc, that can already make the game substantially better.
I hate nothing more than a game that is taking forever to get a version out "because of animations" and then you have literally 1000 words of dialogue across the entire game and nothing more. That is terrible, because it makes it look like it wasn't just the animations that were the problem, but that the entire team slacked once they realized animations would be less than expected.
So yeah. Lets hope the dialogue, story setup, etc. That we can get through a lot of that and get a lot of spicy implications and innuendos and intereactions between the characters involved, setting up this whole corruption storyline properly.
Im not really a furry. The main thing that enticed me about this game was the unique scenario and story setup. A main characer from an advanced civilization is stranded on a planet full of (relative) savages whos scocial structures are tribal by nature. And while there are strong females in the tribe (a good element!) the male dominance is still within the societal structure. Without a way to advance for now, she needs to adapt and do her part to earn her keep in the tribe, like any other member. She is slowly exposed to their customs and corrupted into becoming more like them. Its a unique setup, and one with a lot of potential to go in any direction really. From becoming a very dom member of the tribe making it her own and becoming maybe one of the leading figures, using her womanly charms to her advantage, to becoming a submissive obedient part of the society.
Something for everyone potentially, some choices and paths to go, and a lot of room for interesting backstory about plants, animals and customs in this backwater planet at the fringes of the universe.
That is basically the main thing that originally drew me to this game. And I put up with the point+click gameplay. That - while not terrible - was relatively repetitive and not very groundbreaking. But groundbreaking gameplay is not what I came for. Just like I do not play J-RPGs for the groundbreaking gameplay, that's not the point of them for me.
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Fun little WiP map of the full game area we have planned. (This isn't finished, and we may always add/remove things.)
Since i woke up recently and my first coffee is only half finished, allow me to make a short stupid question, when you mean add/remove you dont mean like the whole game right? Now im done with bad mood and apologize for my humor ^^ The Map looks nice, like most of what i heard or saw we can look forward to it .Which brings me to my biggest fan question, is there a window we can expect it to be released? Since i dont know much time the work needs, whats your estimation on a release?
While you have a valid point, dont you think some communication and decisions led more to that point of high expectations? For a stupid only Patreon- and TrelloUser, who joined discord too late but did a lot of reading afterwards (what was possible from the peasants side), this feeling of perfectionsim shines through and paired with time, it gets you to that point easily. Though nobody ever talked about of a mountain of high quality content in terms of quantity, i did get the feeling in terms of quality. HOWEVER i still agree to have something out that my needs polishing in many areas as long as its not game-breaking or totally stupid (think of a nice lonelytime with a big male lizzard, and the model of our protagonist changes to Cenvir... not to demonish those who like these kind of things, its just not for me)
In the end, all i can do is wait and hope for the best for everyone, the ones who want to make a good game, and the ones who want to play a good game. So in conclusion sorry to waste another post, got too much free time lately.
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I was speaking in reference to the map, as in, we may add or remove things from the map, such as locations and things to explore, in the future.
We are working on finishing a test build for people to play soon with some unpolished animations. I could not tell you when it will be done, but progress is happening at a steady pace.
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Are we talking end of the month?
Are we talking May? June? August? October?
You've gotta have at least some timeline...
Are we talking May? June? August? October?
You've gotta have at least some timeline...
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I think what top hat means is, 'please don't be mad at us, but we don't want to say something, miss a mark, then have that be the new thing people talk about. You may say the same thing, or have an opinion on how close we are to a demo if you follow us closely on discord, and get alerts on streams and Q&A from time to time. Since we can't really give an estimate, and potentially ruin our credibility, we must rely on users to compare trollo notes and progress on streams to make educated guesses. I know that sounds like a lot of throwing the ball around, but we don't like it any more than you do. I'm uncertain if we will ever have a 100% accurate release date, but if we do, we'll be sure to mention it.' would be my guess.
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Mmm, fairly accurate. We've had enough random weird acts of god setting us back that I'd rather not put a specific timeline down. I legitimately don't know how long it will take, really, if I did I'd be sure to tell you.
However, while we await the main thing we need for the demo, i.e. animations, our coder has been working on the actual mechanics of the game, so a ton of progress is being made, it's just not progress you can play. I know some people are disappointed by that, but hey, just be patient and you'll get your Krystal porn.
Patience, but hey, if you pay for your patience, better, XDDD.
The next image going to be a Krystal sketch spinning around?
The next image going to be a Krystal sketch spinning around?
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It's not really paying for patience, it's paying for the game to be made. If you want the game to be made, you can support us, but making games takes time, I wish we could make it faster for you. I want to play it as much as you do.
I supported the cancelled game "see that my review gave the game 5 stars, before cancellation".
But, as you will understand, suddenly we're faced with a cancelled game and eight months of promises.
Patreon is not an excuse for developers to make games, Patreon is a platform to support jobs and encourage people to make a name for themselves in the industry. But not to pay for the air, which is why we already pay for the bagged potatoes.
The disadvantage is that not all developers know how to use Patreon, at first everything is wonderful and well done... when the bank account starts to fill up, then comes the laziness, the delays, the cancellations, the silence...
But, as you will understand, suddenly we're faced with a cancelled game and eight months of promises.
Patreon is not an excuse for developers to make games, Patreon is a platform to support jobs and encourage people to make a name for themselves in the industry. But not to pay for the air, which is why we already pay for the bagged potatoes.
The disadvantage is that not all developers know how to use Patreon, at first everything is wonderful and well done... when the bank account starts to fill up, then comes the laziness, the delays, the cancellations, the silence...
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Idk, patreon is a way for people to support creators they like. Everything beyond that is just audience expectations or socially-agreed on standards of what the acceptable amount of productivity from a given creator is. I know this site pretty much runs on people getting mad at how little patreon devs release but it's not worth getting worked up over IMHO.
That said, catching up with this thread has me pretty bummed out. I just completed the game that exists and really liked where it was heading. Everything the devs are saying are things I've read in other, abandoned threads and I'm pretty confident this new project is just going to amount to a bunch of smoke and empty promises. Or it might not, who the fuck even knows what tomorrow's gonna bring these days. Anyway, I'm pretty bummed out because i feel like there's not a lot of solid furry games for straight folks without a lot of deep end kink so it sucks that this is doa.
That said, catching up with this thread has me pretty bummed out. I just completed the game that exists and really liked where it was heading. Everything the devs are saying are things I've read in other, abandoned threads and I'm pretty confident this new project is just going to amount to a bunch of smoke and empty promises. Or it might not, who the fuck even knows what tomorrow's gonna bring these days. Anyway, I'm pretty bummed out because i feel like there's not a lot of solid furry games for straight folks without a lot of deep end kink so it sucks that this is doa.
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Just my two cents here: i can't afford to be a patron so i don't want to preach to those that do/did pay money for this game - but with so many lazy and simplistic projects going around this site i don't think it's worth getting mad at the LoK team of all groups just because we don't have a demo, you can see just by quickly hopping on their discord that this is clearly a somewhat complex title with relatively frequent public updates even on technical matters like the coding.
While again having no demo and basically no porn yet (for this new version at least) is frustrating i appreciate this approach way more than the monthly updates some teams that cash-in thousands of dollars do consisting in a handful of static CGs with cringe dialogue that look like they could've been whipped together in an afternoon.
Again, I'm admittedly speaking from a safe position, just saying that when i check this thread or the discord at least i can tell there's a game being made
While again having no demo and basically no porn yet (for this new version at least) is frustrating i appreciate this approach way more than the monthly updates some teams that cash-in thousands of dollars do consisting in a handful of static CGs with cringe dialogue that look like they could've been whipped together in an afternoon.
Again, I'm admittedly speaking from a safe position, just saying that when i check this thread or the discord at least i can tell there's a game being made
I agree with you. I liked the direction the game was taking before it was cancelled. The art was very good, the animations fluid, the difficulty more than adequate, the dialogs great and fun, and the corruption of Krystal the best of the best.
I doubt very much that the new game will make me forget the old one.
Besides, something I liked is that nobody forced you to do anything, you had the sex you wanted when you wanted, and that made this game different. Like Krystal, you didn't feel violated or forced, you decided what to do according to your desires, and that few games have, hence the big difference in playing as a female character. You're not a whore who grabs at the first thing you see.
In the new game there will be battles and defeats, that is to say, a mixture of Oh, so hero! and RPG Maker game.
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You won't forget the old one, because this is the old one. All the characters will remain present, as will the overall feel of it early on.
That remains the same.
You don't have to see the defeat scenes, you will be able to turn those off, and it will all remain by choice.
Quote to answer, you do, but until you show proof of what you're saying, it's smoke.
I'm the first one who'd like to see this game go forward, but still you only making promises about, for the moment, a blank canvas.
I'm the first one who'd like to see this game go forward, but still you only making promises about, for the moment, a blank canvas.