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arimouse

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Well, I'm not sure what you mean by "archaic". 2D skeletal animation makes possible a lot of things that wouldn't be an option with frame by frame. Variable height of characters is one of them, multi-track animations another, and I could keep on but I know you know them, so I won't spend precious time stating the obvious. ;)

I'll leave one example of what you *can* do with Spine. Granted, that's the demi-god of animation Dao Le Trong, but it's just to illustrate how you're not actually limited.

Well, it's the same as that sterile debate about which is best for making games, Unity, Unreal, GameMaker, whatever. All of them are okay to make a great game. But you see people mocking Unity because a lot of amateur devs have made not so great games on that platform.

What I suppose you mean is that we should try with 3D models, and that is a totally different tune, Ari. It's not really a different way of doing things, at a technical level, but also on the aesthetics side. And not only you'd need to make the characters 3D, but also the environment, and that requires a lot more people than two or four team members. People that know what they're doing, which is usually not the case in this small endogamic world of ours.

At the end of the day, what it really limit your progress are *your* limits as a flesh and bone human being, not the capabilities of the platforms you're using.
No I gotcha. :)

And to your point, I have seen some utterly stellar spine animation stuff, like what you posted.

That person though is, like you said, incredibly good at it.

What I *mostly* see with it is dead-side on walk/run cycles, use cases where people don't know how to draw the pieces from different angles, so are stuck forcing unusual animations in order to make sure "lower-arm-left" is always exactly the same length... etc etc.

I'm not implying your new project is like that because I haven't seen it, but the vast majority of projects that aren't of AA quality tend to not use spine tech to their good advantage, and everything looks a little less than amazing in motion.
 

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Different game? Did they start from scratch or just completely change a lot of core elements from the original?
Both lol. They're starting from scratch and are changing everything but the characters and general plot. I seem to recall one of the devs of the new game saying that they want to make the fallout of porn games. In practice it's meant that their scope is way too big, the little they've made in the past couple of years has gotten scrapped and remade a couple of times, and there's little evidence that it's ever going to turn into an actual playable game. There's a thread for it here somewhere if you're interested, I haven't been keeping up with it after the initial drama bomb went off
 
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arimouse

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Hell no, you can imply all you want because it will be filled of amateur animations and a total disregard for perfectionism. I'm sure you'll cry blood at some point. :ROFLMAO:

But... the thing is, nobody complained for the animations in the previous game, and now I'm quite better, so I'll accept not being a twentieth as good as that guy. No problem at all, as long as that enables me to produce a decent amount of content in a reasonable amount of time.

Those are my limits, and the best thing I can do for me and my future supporters is to accept them.
And that's fine too. Step one to success is knowing your limits and when the sky is too high.

Like I also mentioned, I'm super lenient of shitty animation or art so long as the game tickles my particular fancy. I like stuff where the main graphics is just text. I grew up in a MUD age.

Most of the games horribly guilty of this are a lot of those weird Japanese side scroller fighting games. The ones where they tried to make Resident Evil except sexy, but somewhere something got fucked up and the characters and the movement don't line up any any... meh! It is a reality of tiny studios, and I'm not one to judge since I haven't delivered any video games myself. :)

I definitely hope yours will go better and I'm sure your art will be great!
 

arimouse

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Both lol. They're starting from scratch and are changing everything but the characters and general plot. I seem to recall one of the devs of the new game saying that they want to make the fallout of porn games. In practice it's meant that their scope is way too big, the little they've made in the past couple of years has gotten scrapped and remade a couple of times, and there's little evidence that it's ever going to turn into an actual playable game. There's a thread for it here somewhere if you're interested, I haven't been keeping up with it after the initial drama bomb went off
I think the current target is Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. The older RPG and not the MMO one.

At least this is kind of the angle that their director seems to indicate. Their current trajectory, however, seems to be trying to rebuild up to where 0.8 was previously with their new style.

I'm not sure when they're going to deviate away from that, and start on the bigger story, or how in depth it will go. My understanding was that that was basically an intro level, and you couldn't really "live" there per se, since you were driven to continue the story and do and see other things.
 
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Hell no, you can imply all you want because it will be filled of amateur animations and a total disregard for perfectionism. I'm sure you'll cry blood at some point. :ROFLMAO:

But... the thing is, nobody complained for the animations in the previous game, and now I'm quite better, so I'll accept not being a twentieth as good as that guy. No problem at all, as long as that enables me to produce a decent amount of content in a reasonable amount of time.

Those are my limits, and the best thing I can do for me and my future supporters is to accept them.
you working on a new project? what is your patreon?
 
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XD THE NAME
" unlike other projects that take for granted their supporters' money." jajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajaja XD
I laugh like an idiot when I read these. grande Abelius
Well, country girl also need some money for live in the big city and study in the ABBA, so she need some financial help too :)

But Abelius is worth creating a new thread on this forum for his game, so as not to violate the rules of this forum, and also - to get the opportunity to attract much more new followers to his project.
 
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I apologize but it is not abandoned. Public version 1.0.1 and the last posts on September 7.
Sorry if they said the domain was just written for a tick.
This version of the game (in this forum thread) is 100% abandoned sadly, since the person, who did 60-70 percent of all work on it, is no longer part of the LOK team.

Yes, they have restarted, and now they are trying to make a different game (but still with a more or less similar scenario, and they do it pretty slow), but alas, the version of the game in this particular thread of the forum will not be continued.
 
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dragonsix6969

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Yes, I wanted to know what would happen to her when she went into the men's tent at night. and it always seems to me that there is have something else in the game, sad
 
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