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por12

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I essentially agree with you. And no, there are no "buts" after that sentence. xD

To be honest, when I wrote that, I was in a place of mental quietness. Now... I'm feeling some wrath again, for what they did, and especially how little of what they bragged about when they removed me have done, after THREE FREAKING YEARS.

Oh, and the small detail they still have MY game on their launcher and Patreon, and they're still riding on the success of my project. And the fact they would say "But it's not your game! Kuja drawn the graphics and I made some dialogues!", as if that 25% of the work involved in a game project gave them the right to continue profiting from the 100% of the work I put.

But what is even more infuriating is that I still get "How's it going?" messages by Vlad from time to time, as if they think this wasn't anything "personal", you know. That I got what was coming to me, because I didn't pay heed to their crazy ideas about a AAA RPG game with some porn in it.

So, yeah. It would be both justice and taking back what's mine.

That said... (this is the actual "but") I have my hands full with with Pizza Hot. That is the reality and I have a commitment with my current supporters, that are much likely more interested in this game than LOK Rebirth.

Unless they prove me wrong, I won't do anything so extreme as abandoning a project to take back a stolen project for which 90% of the patrons were told lies about its "reboot", and don't even know who "Abelius" is.
still dont get why the fuck u didnt continue this game alone lol
 

KorsaroKhan

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With how many projects are unfinished and this new one apparently not even being about Krystal I genuinely think someone from Dev Team of Star Fox is a fucking wizard who cast a curse on Krystal. There is no other explanation.
 

dragonsix6969

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can i ask? there do you remember when krystal walk in night on village? when she wanna go in male tent but can't, what were the plans with these envent? 1655509162263.png
 
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Ion.TemUS

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Genuinely disappointed this was abandoned, the slow burn corruption/indoctrination was incredibly hot.
Yea, I mean they wanted to remake it better. But I feel the vision is so big its barely managable in a proper timeframe. Also, so far they haven't even gotten back to where this game here was. Unfortunately.
 
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dragonsix6969

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fortunately you can make a very long story for this game, you can say it all ended on a big note,;) the game by the way can be realistic we weren't shown magic.
 
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I checked the patreon page and it looks like they are still developing the game alongside a new one(I think they released a build but not sure where to find it) albeit slowly.

Yeah just noticed they are building this from the ground up.
 

tekunikaru

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So, yeah. It would be both justice and taking back what's mine.
Let's say hypothetically (no meme intended), that a small team of dedicated developers started to reverse engineer and make LoK v0.9, extending the story and content based on v0.8 in the same style and everything, would you in any way mind the development of a such reboot?
 
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They got rid of me to reboot the whole thing, but didn't change the name of the game and just put a 1.0 on top.

Hence the confusion, because they are also maintaining my 0.8 version in their launcher, as if they have 100% of the rights of something it was 80% my work.

Some people just don't need work ethics as long as they get their way, you know.
Quite unnecessary to remove you from the team honestly, considering your skills.

What a waste. Do they have any particular reason why they gave you the boot? Aside the reboot thing.
 

Ion.TemUS

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Ego, my friend, what else?

They thought they'd do five times better and faster, if they took the money and hired strangers to replace me... and time has proven otherwise.
I personally don't have any hard feelings or anger for them, but isn't it ironic that they started with "we can do this faster and better" and restarted it, went on to hire a bunch of people, and with every week or month their ambitions became more and more bloated, the game was supposed to be this big AA project that went into a full game, to the point that they even put the h-content on the "less priority" shelf, trying to make it 3D and all (which ended up looking like paper Mario. Which, tbf wouldn't be terrible for any other game that is not this game, but for a game of the h-variety is really immersion breaking), then after a lot of trying had to backpedal and go back to 2D, remake a bunch of assets, re-prioritize h-content. And now they have been working on it for a while and all they came up with is a ton of art content that isn't integrated yet and only serves as previews (so far), working on a dozen elements while the active version is basically a version 0.3 roughly (compared to the 0.8 they had before content-wise).
 

CourierNPC

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I personally don't have any hard feelings or anger for them, but isn't it ironic that they started with "we can do this faster and better" and restarted it, went on to hire a bunch of people, and with every week or month their ambitions became more and more bloated, the game was supposed to be this big AA project that went into a full game, to the point that they even put the h-content on the "less priority" shelf, trying to make it 3D and all (which ended up looking like paper Mario. Which, tbf wouldn't be terrible for any other game that is not this game, but for a game of the h-variety is really immersion breaking), then after a lot of trying had to backpedal and go back to 2D, remake a bunch of assets, re-prioritize h-content. And now they have been working on it for a while and all they came up with is a ton of art content that isn't integrated yet and only serves as previews (so far), working on a dozen elements while the active version is basically a version 0.3 roughly (compared to the 0.8 they had before content-wise).
Sometimes a little too confident here and lots of egos over there distract you from what's ahead: Simplicity.

Surface-level, most porn games are simple: A character (original or from famous franchises), a scene, maybe a story here some quests there, get sexed, CG gallery, optional cheats with several other features, done.

The Other Rebirth is far too complex, and I admit, a more ambitious project from a technical POV from the way I see it. From any versions of LoK that I've played, despite most of it being discontinued and abandoned, only the Other Rebirth feels too Triple-A.
 

Ion.TemUS

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Sometimes a little too confident here and lots of egos over there distract you from what's ahead: Simplicity.

Surface-level, most porn games are simple: A character (original or from famous franchises), a scene, maybe a story here some quests there, get sexed, CG gallery, optional cheats with several other features, done.

The Other Rebirth is far too complex, and I admit, a more ambitious project from a technical POV from the way I see it. From any versions of LoK that I've played, despite most of it being discontinued and abandoned, only the Other Rebirth feels too Triple-A.
Honestly, Id be 100% ok with them going for a AA Rebirth. But not if you are numerous years in development and continue to ask for patron money. It's one thing to be like "we are going to remake this whole thing, kickstarter is here, pay once, we make the game, you get it once we're (mostly) finished". But patreon which syphons monthly sub fees at a chance to get a patch/update is always iffy if you have been developing for so long and you start from scratch again.

I have nothing against ambition, it's just how you do it. And obviously you should be realistic in expectations, not go for 5 different inspirations when it comes to gameplay, being like "its gonna have THIS, and THIS, AND THIS". Its just a lot to put on your plate for a group of a few people in what seemingly is (for some of them) a side gig. Idk what they expect for the timeline, but a game like this taking a decade to make is just too much. You can do that for a AAA game, but even there are often games that come out that took 7 or 8 years and are horribly undercooked
 
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