Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.41.0] [Selebus]

[hario1225]

Why do I remember this menu?!?! Is this what people called false memory?!?!

Now I can look at the old and the current menu in parallel, the one we have now seems to be more onto "Sensei's first impression of this girl" aside from just being his students. If not, at least a certain part of this girl that is most memorable or most different from other girls to him; this probably ties to the fact that he is spawned into Kumon-mi.

But I like the idea of changing portraits from time to time when appropriate to subtly reflect character status or progression (I think this would be most applicable when certain girls go unreachable due to story reasons, girls like Rin, Molly, or Noriko)

some examples that come to mind:

Spoiler: Makoto after bluejay

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Spoiler: Ayane after joining roof squad

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Spoiler: Nodoka after finding what's buried underneath

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Spoiler: Molly after Halloween

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Spoiler: Noriko after that FUCKING event

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Spoiler: Ami becomes more...Ami

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But this kind of attention to details probably won't ever happen as it's hard to notice, it might contain spoilers, and it needs to be changed back and forth constantly.

Man, I really hope Sel would stir the good uncle route to the true ending cause I can't bear to see Noriko breaking for the second time. It's just straight up mental torture.

Unless Ami somehow intervenes and you're forced to relive that event. All these theories about Ami honestly trips me out a bit, it not really excessive, but it makes you see her character in a whole different direction.

 

[Bingoogus]

This line absolutely kills me every time i see it. Primo drunk speech.

 

[JelF547]

It's just straight up mental torture.

Sure it would be much more stuff like this despite which route you would choose with Ami. Pain is inevitable.

Game is becoming more painful to play each chapter and I am sure the only limit for this is Selebus' creativity. However, I personaly like this. Emotions are awesome

 

[barglenarglezous]

Sure it would be much more stuff like this despite which route you would choose with Ami. Pain is inevitable.

Game is becoming more painful to play each chapter and I am sure the only limit for this is Selebus' creativity. However, I personaly like this. Emotions are awesome

We're on Suffer Puppet Level 2 right now.

I fully expect Sel to crank it up to 11 soon.

 

[derekthered56]

We're on Suffer Puppet Level 2 right now.

I fully expect Sel to crank it up to 11 soon.

As long as there's some levity and compassion sprinkled throughout. If it's just suffering for the next 3 chapters I don't think I can keep playing.

 

[DeSkel15]

We're on Suffer Puppet Level 2 right now.

I fully expect Sel to crank it up to 11 soon.

According to presumably Psycho Ami, Chapter 3 is the "Petty Drama" chapter:

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So, yeah, things are likely just in the "Petty" phase. It hasn't really gone dark yet. I expect things to get much worse.. especially for Ayane unfortunately.

 

[Riolol]

According to presumably Psycho Ami, Chapter 3 is the "Petty Drama" chapter:

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So, yeah, things are likely just in the "Petty" phase. It hasn't really gone dark yet. I expect things to get much worse.. especially for Ayane unfortunately.

I took that line to mean chapter 3 is when Ami and others find out about the other people Akira is boning. This has already happened in some cases. Ayane being the obvious example.

 

[DeSkel15]

Spider?

Would definitely fit since Momma Kaori is "the Queen of Spiders".

 

[blackredfish]

As long as there's some levity and compassion sprinkled throughout. If it's just suffering for the next 3 chapters I don't think I can keep playing.

Agreed. i'm a little worried about this, although not for myself in particular. I hope Selebus don't lose too many supporters during the dark path phase. We all have been warned that is coming, and no one should act surprised or offended when it finally kicks in. Yet, humans are strange and contradictory creatures. I can see people (even some who says are looking forward to the dark path) going "you know, this is actually too much for me". Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

[DeSkel15]

I took that line to mean chapter 3 is when Ami and others find out about the other people Akira is boning. This has already happened in some cases. Ayane being the obvious example.

That could definitely be what's it's referring to. There's also been stuff like Ayane putting Kirin in her place, Rin and Otoha fighting then sexting, Nodoka bullying Yumi, Miku hiding things from Makoto, Io catching Sana, Ami "catching" Noriko in the closet, Ami seemingly lying about Maya and Ayane, etc. Petty Drama overall.

Maybe even "Psycho Ami" fits the Petty Drama stuff in the end. Then again, Chapter 3 could be near it's end, or simply around the middle. Hard to tell after the time skip.

 

[DeSkel15]

Agreed. i'm a little worried about this, although not for myself in particular. I hope Selebus don't lose too many supporters during the dark path phase. We all have been warned that is coming, and no one should act surprised or offended when it finally kicks in. Yet, humans are strange and contradictory creatures. I can see people (even some who says are looking forward to the dark path) going "you know, this is actually too much for me". Hopefully I'm wrong.

As long as things don't get as meaninglessly effed up as "Crossed", I think I should be good. Might need a few breaks to wrap my head around things, depending on what happens though.

On the other hand, I definitely see quite the migration incoming.

 

[barglenarglezous]

That could definitely be what's it's referring to. There's also been stuff like Ayane putting Kirin in her place, Rin and Otoha fighting then sexting, Nodoka bullying Yumi, Miku hiding things from Makoto, Io catching Sana, Ami "catching" Noriko in the closet, Ami seemingly lying about Maya and Ayane, etc. Petty Drama overall.

Maybe even "Psycho Ami" fits the Petty Drama stuff in the end. Then again, Chapter 3 could be near it's end, or simply around the middle. Hard to tell after the time skip.

If the pattern holds, the recent reset would be the midway point, and the end of the chapter would happen before the end of the year (again, if pattern holds, probably close to christmas)

 

[hario1225]

Sure it would be much more stuff like this despite which route you would choose with Ami. Pain is inevitable.

Game is becoming more painful to play each chapter and I am sure the only limit for this is Selebus' creativity. However, I personaly like this. Emotions are awesome

Considering that Selly's writing sucked at the first chapter, this is a good change of pace at least.
I kinda expected it tbh with all of the puzzles and happy events

 

[akselx]

Spider?

 

[butterfly boy]

Agreed. i'm a little worried about this, although not for myself in particular. I hope Selebus don't lose too many supporters during the dark path phase. We all have been warned that is coming, and no one should act surprised or offended when it finally kicks in. Yet, humans are strange and contradictory creatures. I can see people (even some who says are looking forward to the dark path) going "you know, this is actually too much for me". Hopefully I'm wrong.

I don't think losing fans is avoidable if you want to switch the vibe of the story. I'll wait untill chapter 4 is out to fully judge. Though there are also 35 endings for all solo paths and as long as everyone lives I think I can deal with the dark stuff.

LiL is also a special case since I'm not aware of any monthly series out there that builds up very loveable characters for 3 years and then suddenly switch the vibe to very dark(which I'm expecting what Chapter 4 will be) and at least watching the reactions will be very interesting.

 

[DeSkel15]

If the pattern holds, the recent reset would be the midway point, and the end of the chapter would happen before the end of the year (again, if pattern holds, probably close to christmas)

I think Christmas just happened or "Beachmas", but yeah, might be another time skip or something. Idk. Time is weird in Kumon-mi.

 

[Riolol]

I'm still amazed I originally downloaded this game looking for porn and now i'm emotionally invested. It's like Teaching Feeling all over again.

 

[JelF547]

If it's just suffering for the next 3 chapters I don't think I can keep playing.

Just suffering is boring. Sure it would be more like monthly surprise suffering

So, yeah, things are likely just in the "Petty" phase. It hasn't really gone dark yet. I expect things to get much worse.. especially for Ayane unfortunately.

I'll give this chapter 2 bluejays at max. Maybe 3 if there would be interesting homicide, but I sure that if it would be a homicide, everyone would act like nothing happend which makes it ~ equal to bluejay.

Hovewer, it might get much darker whenever we finaly go to Sana events or if Maya would be reset in the end of chapter (technicaly, drama would be in chapter 4 in this case, but whatever). And there is always a room for something completly unexpected.

Also would be really nice if there would be some kind of trolley problem when player is forced to decide, but it will make development of future stuff extremly hard so Sel would probably not do this until it would be much closer to the end.

Considering that Selly's writing sucked at the first chapter, this is a good change of pace at least.

I still don't get why do you think chapter 1 sucks, especialy when i started playing pre-0.24.0. Nonetheless without chapter 1 there would be much less empathy which definetly amplifies effect

I don't think losing fans is avoidable if you want to switch the vibe of the story. I'll wait untill chapter 4 is out to fully judge. Though there are also 35 endings for all solo paths and as long as everyone lives I think I can deal with the dark stuff.

It is relatively strange for me that guys who love this game even after events like "Bluejay" or "Things that hurt" might be afraid if this game become even darker. It is not like fans are not prepared to real shit

I'm still amazed I originally downloaded this game looking for porn and now i'm emotionally invested. It's like Teaching Feeling all over again.

Game title was a big spoiler, yeah

 

[DeSkel15]

I'll give this chapter 2 bluejays at max. Maybe 3 if there would be interesting homicide, but I sure that if it would be a homicide, everyone would act like nothing happend which makes it ~ equal to bluejay.

Hovewer, it might get much darker whenever we finaly go to Sana events or if Maya would be reset in the end of chapter (technicaly, drama would be in chapter 4 in this case, but whatever). And there is always a room for something completly unexpected.

Also would be really nice if there would be some kind of trolley problem when player is forced to decide, but it will make development of future stuff extremly hard so Sel would probably not do this until it would be much closer to the end.

Personally I consider the uncontrollably sodomizing Sara part and White Oak Door stuff, as darker than Bluejay. Then again, I don't really find death as dark as others do, especially with a reset button.

I do think there will be some options to save certain girls, by choosing between them, but I doubt those would be real choices. Wouldn't be the first time the Narrator went "You actually thought you had a choice?".

I'm just waiting for the Black Souls stuff to kick in, where murdering, raping, and sacrificing your love interests is in your best interest (to a degree).

 

[JelF547]

Personally I consider the uncontrollably sodomizing Sara part and White Oak Door stuff, as darker than Bluejay. Then again, I don't really find death as dark as others do, especially with a reset button.

I used Bluejay in terms of "rank drama level on scale from 1 to X Bluejays", so 2 Bluejays mean 2x darker then Bluejay. It's not about quantity, it's about quality

Also wasn't Bluejay a chapter 1 thing? I thought it happened before "There is Nothing"

Yep, but I don't understand why do you ask. I am still not fluent with English so my post might be a bit misleading