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This has been the biggest month for LiL in Patreon history so there’s definitely an influx. Just like there is every other time the game doesn’t leak.
I would be curious to know the relationship between updates that leak and Patron increases. This would imply that
enough people know about the avenues of piracy and don't become Patrons as updates are provided for free. But at the same time, how much worse would the game be without piracy and websites like these?

Interesting :unsure:
 
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akselx

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This is why having the dev being the person setting up the thread is a bad idea. 0.15 has long been out but we won't get an update since the dev won't let it drop. Maybe set up another thread with different person so we could actually get the update??
What about all other times the update were leaked just a few days after patreon release? Like literally the previous update.
 
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What about all other times the update were leaked just a few days after patreon release? Like literally the previous update.
Sometimes it get leaked same day, other times it get leaked a week later and sometime it doesn't even leak. That's the luck of the draw with piracy.

But asking for a new game thread to be created just so updates get leaked faster is what we call a dick move in these parts of town. I understand $5/month may be too much for some individuals but the dev provides the update for the public literally 2 weeks later. Either pay the $5 or wait two weeks.
 

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I would be curious to know the relationship between updates that leak and Patron increases. This would imply that
enough people know about the avenues of piracy and don't become Patrons as updates are provided for free. But at the same time, how much worse would the game be without piracy and websites like these?

Interesting :unsure:
I have a really extensive post on some topic around here called “Is F95 good or bad for devs” or something where I break down the numbers in great detail, but there is a long history (At least for me) of sales during non-leak updates greatly outweighing updates that do leak. Additionally, the majority of updates that leaked right away brought in the lowest numbers in the game’s history (Apart from the beginning updates since the game wasn’t known yet).

Having a consistent release schedule with the same amount of content every two weeks gives me a load of samples to take from. But basically, leaks are not good. And I don’t understand how anyone says they can be.

F95 helped me get my game out there, but it didn’t even start leaking until like 0.6.0 when it already had a pretty substantial following. You get the same amount of recognition from this site whether an update is a leak or not.
 

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I have a really extensive post on some topic around here called “Is F95 good or bad for devs” or something where I break down the numbers in great detail, but there is a long history (At least for me) of sales during non-leak updates greatly outweighing updates that do leak. Additionally, the majority of updates that leaked right away brought in the lowest numbers in the game’s history (Apart from the beginning updates since the game wasn’t known yet).

Having a consistent release schedule with the same amount of content every two weeks gives me a load of samples to take from. But basically, leaks are not good. And I don’t understand how anyone says they can be.

F95 helped me get my game out there, but it didn’t even start leaking until like 0.6.0 when it already had a pretty substantial following. You get the same amount of recognition from this site whether an update is a leak or not.
I do empathize with devs who have their work leaked. For many, game development is a good chunk (or maybe entirely) their income so when the stream of money slows down then it hurts. People try to rationalize leaking updates from bigger devs since they'll "still be fine" but that's the same argument if you shoplift from Amazon versus a small business. Shoplifting is bad either way. I also feel like it diminishes the value of paying patrons who go out of their way to support devs.

TLDR: Leaks = usually bad, support devs!
 

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This is why having the dev being the person setting up the thread is a bad idea. 0.15 has long been out but we won't get an update since the dev won't let it drop. Maybe set up another thread with different person so we could actually get the update??
I never saw Selebus preventing it. Most people here that played it and inevitabley were sucked into the dark, cruel void that this game isbecame HAPPY actually promote not prematurely posting updates, including cheap slackers like me (btw new job wage talk Monday afternoon, if God gOd GOD HOPE wills it I might stop slacking very soon).

Thing is, this game is good. Like really good. And Sel is doing a pretty fair deal here, we get everything for free, just 2 weeks later. If someone else still leaks it, it is what it is and he lets it be. Can't honestly see how that approach is bad by any means. Like for real...

Also Sel can you please stop making myself feel like shit when I'm actually trying to be a good guy once like with Haruka or Karin? I'm not trashing my morals but I am the weird one? =P Sigh
Edit: Also, is there a signature for Wakana? I feel like her and Io are kinda my my spirit animals after all. Wakanas positive outlook on life always cheers me up and makes me hate everything just marginally less.
 
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I hopped on the Discord to see what it was like.

It was an ....... interesting place to say the least. I'd rather get my info from here.
Agreed, maybe I'm just too old for the Discord crowd but it's a little overwhelming. Though I like reading through the spoiler chat after I play the updates, there can be some good speculation hidden within all of the junk posts. And the stickers are super cute.

Too add onto the leak conversation - I think this game gets leaked less than others because Selebus is so respected by his community. Over 1300 patrons and nobody decided to leak it, that's pretty awesome IMO.

Some other devs go months with zero content and a million excuses, no shit some unhappy patron is going to leak it.
 

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I've been trying to follow the guide and I'm really interested in Ami, but I can't seem to unlock her lust stat? how do you increase ami's lust?
 

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I'll say this, I'm both pirate and supporter, piracy for testing the game out at first then giving what I'm capable of safely if it meets a certain level of expectations of quality. Can confirm, Piracy is a double edged sword of more exposure for a creator, but we all know that too much exposure is deadly and actually paying even a paltry bit of cash is highly appreciated.

Tis why I spend more in porn games than I do paying my car off lol, which reminds me to up my pledge for this a bit more now that I'm back to playing LiL more again.
 

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How is that a bad idea? You're getting the developer to interact with the community, and not say "fuck F95". The absolute least you can do is wait the two weeks until the public release.
So you are saying we should have an inferior system in place where we don't get to play the latest updates as supposed to getting to play them sooner? Really low IQ from you. This is a piracy site. I doubt you are any different to the rest of the goblins here and never donate yourself. You are shilling for an inferior system.
 

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So you are saying we should have an inferior system in place where we don't get to play the latest updates as supposed to getting to play them sooner? Really low IQ from you. This is a piracy site. I doubt you are any different to the rest of the goblins here and never donate yourself. You are shilling for an inferior system.
How can you be so entitled? "Supposed to" smh. You yourself don't contribute to developer, nor site, nor anything else, and hope everything is served to you on silver platter. Calling someone stupid because they respect a person enough not to steal from him? Pathetic. What is more, you are the dumb one. Changing the author of the thread would change nothing, as someone said before. Moderators update links if anyone uploads the leak, but it turns out Sel's patrons (over a thousand people) have more decency than yourself (who is so cheap that 5$ is too expensive for him. lame.)

Also, you are wrong. This is not a piracy site. This is an adult games site. Not all games/updates on here are even locked behind a payments, nor does this site takes pride into providing leaked versions. Just because this site doesn't ban leaked versions but accept them, it doesn't mean everyone here is on a mission to provide you a leak just because you can't wait two fucking weeks.

Sorry for the rant, but I can't stand how entitled you are
 

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F95 helped me get my game out there, but it didn’t even start leaking until like 0.6.0 when it already had a pretty substantial following. You get the same amount of recognition from this site whether an update is a leak or not.
F95 did definitely help me find your game. And this here makes me feel much better about the one time I pirated the release. I found it in 0.7, I believe, and subbed before I had even caught up on the new content in the leak.

Out of curiousity, do you provide the public release to this thread yourself?
 

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Technically you could change whatever variable controls the event's status using the console, but this does run a pretty good risk to your save. There really isn't a way without fucking up the save once it has an event listed as a certain status. At that point, you run the risk of fucking it up if you attempt to make any change that sets that status to a different one. There is only one surefire way to not fuck up the save and unlock everything and that is to get everything right from the start, which is the nightmare Selebus is referring to, I'm pretty sure. Not an easy task by any means, but the best way to do what you want without the risk.

You shouldn't need to run the whole 30 hours even if you were to take the hit and play through the missed events again. There should be a save somewhere that occurred closer to your current point without the missed events. Try the auto save section of the load screen, should be the A category to the left of the page numbers on the load screen.


Absolutely not, it is my mission to make this happen at all costs, even if I must bear the pain of lying to one or more of the girls.


Truly the most evil of methods, letting our own acts eat away at us until the very moment when karma comes calling. :p


That is no easy task, nice work. This game goes out of its way to make you fail at every turn, the most common strategy in my case being the correct choice being the one I myself would never choose, Karin is a prime example of this. You'll know when you see the event I'm referring to, no spoilers here.

If Selebus had merch, I would be out of money and would have to cancel my subscription for a short while to recover. I am not joking when I say I would have my walls covered in said merch as soon as I could get my hands on it, or an equivalent for electronic merch. I would literally buy everything, every single item on sale.


That's actually pretty impressive, just a few more days and we'll see if that comes to pass. It's like people are gaining such a respect for the game as to not share patron only builds nearly as much as other games get hit with it. I do hope that it does and that instead comes an equivalent influx of patrons.


Yes please


Exactly, there are some developers so bad, some even resulting from an intentional act, that pirating is the only real option. Selebus makes it very much the opposite. It is so well taken care of that we instead feel that it isn't necessarily worth pirating, which is not to say that it is too bad to pirate, it's quite the opposite. On a pirating forum like this, that is no simple task and not that many games get treated like this. It is absolutely worth being a patron, I do not regret and cannot foresee ever regretting becoming one.


Indeed, at this quality, you could give us half an hour and it would be worth $10. There is very little that could detract enough value to make the game no longer worth the cost and I cannot foresee what little could cause that happening in your hands.


That last one is what I do, rolling back and forth to read it word by word, those messages are quick.


While it is part of the map by default, it does fit quite nicely and does sort of clue us in on some potential plot points.


Good idea on the sticky note, you never know when something seemingly harmless is actually an important detail.


I just keep it as a separate account and only ever use Discord for degenerate stuff anyway. I've been over to the Discord a couple times, though usually only when I need to get to Selebus about something to do with subscription benefits. I think the last time I was there was when I first signed up. I just keep this and the SubscribeStar open at all times to get any information.
Too many damn Pepe memes
 
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So you are saying we should have an inferior system in place where we don't get to play the latest updates as supposed to getting to play them sooner? Really low IQ from you. This is a piracy site. I doubt you are any different to the rest of the goblins here and never donate yourself. You are shilling for an inferior system.
This can't be a serious post... How is respecting someone's wishes to not leak their game "inferior" in any way?

Bruh, I have donated, because I'm not an entitled leech.
 

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How can you be so entitled? "Supposed to" smh. You yourself don't contribute to developer, nor site, nor anything else, and hope everything is served to you on silver platter. Calling someone stupid because they respect a person enough not to steal from him? Pathetic. What is more, you are the dumb one. Changing the author of the thread would change nothing, as someone said before. Moderators update links if anyone uploads the leak, but it turns out Sel's patrons (over a thousand people) have more decency than yourself (who is so cheap that 5$ is too expensive for him. lame.)

Also, you are wrong. This is not a piracy site. This is an adult games site. Not all games/updates on here are even locked behind a payments, nor does this site takes pride into providing leaked versions. Just because this site doesn't ban leaked versions but accept them, it doesn't mean everyone here is on a mission to provide you a leak just because you can't wait two fucking weeks.

Sorry for the rant, but I can't stand how entitled you are
it's a literal piracy site. You think the Kagura devs are consenting to all their games goin in this site for free while they charge money for it on steam. You lot are a hypocrites. At least I'm an honest pirate
 
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