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1) I didn't actually think you ruled out the "divine presence", sorry if my wording was a bit deceiving.
I didn't think you ruled it out based on the speech/voice being inconsistent because are we sure there is only one "divine presence" that's delivering these narrations? Much of what happens in the story suggests multiple entities messing with his head (or directly speaking to him), so why not of these presences?
This is a fair point, though I'm not too convinced that there are, in fact, multiple divine entities present. I get the impression that there is only one currently present, even though there might have been multiple present at some point in the past. It's sufficiently plausible for me to consider though, even if I personally find it unlikely.

2) It's a half concession, and this is the one I find most likely.
It *is* Selebus's voice, but not at the present moment in time. Selebus is writing from perspective his younger and more ignorant self, the ramblings /deliberately/ shallow, for contrast. As you have said, the writing for the girls feels more legitimately deep, so the girls own journeys are acting like a rejection what is said in those ramblings. Heck, I felt Ayane in the latest update's content really embodied that.

It also helps that "navel-gazey ramblings that contrast the themes of the work in the end" is something that's present in the works LiL is blatantly inspired from, so to me this isn't a much of a wild guess.
This is actually what I had initially assumed at the beginning of the game, and my initial feeling was that the game would evolve through the growth of Sensei away from that mindset and towards something more consistent to an adult's cognitive capacity. I was somewhat dissuaded from this being the case because of how inconsistently Sensei expresses his thoughts by the mid-point of Chapter 2 depending on which girl he is interacting with, to the point that it's hard to understand why he would be showing growth in one situation and then not in another similar situation just because the girl is different. Admittedly, I have not finished Chapter 2 or started Chapter 3 yet, so it might just be that I'm seeing some confusion because of how the part of Chapter 2 that I am at was written so long before the current version of Chapter 1. It could be a case of Selebus just "not having grown as a writer yet" by this point, even though his growth is more visible "earlier" in the game.

I'm also somewhat dissuaded from this being the case because I can't imagine a morally admissible or humanly conceivable ending where Sensei has a massive consenting 20+ teenager harem, which is what the game seems to be heading to, BUT this game also doesn't look like the type which is going to have a "good ending", so it's possible that we're heading towards a sort of "if only I had realized it sooner" scenario.

Can you tell me more about why you ruled out other possibilities? I think that at this point there are two things that are clear - there are several different narrators (and Sensei also narrates sometimes, but that's beside the point), and at least one of them is Sekai/Teacher/SiL. I don't think there are any places where we can say that the narrator can only be Selebus.
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BUT this game also doesn't look like the type which is going to have a "good ending", so it's possible that we're heading towards a sort of "if only I had realized it sooner" scenario.
Writing ones self into the corner, so to speak. Not that there were ever going to be any good options after Chapter One. I can live with 'if only I had realized", because the next most likely option is 'Sensei wakes up, it was all just a dream/coma/fantasy', AKA The Roseanne Ending.
 
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Writing ones self into the corner, so to speak. Not that there were ever going to be any good options after Chapter One. I can live with 'if only I had realized", because the next most likely option is 'Sensei wakes up, it was all just a dream/coma/fantasy', AKA The Roseanne Ending.
I was going to bring that up, especially because it is a legitimately plausible option in this story, but it's just such a horrible option that I'd rather not even discuss it.

Also, question: are there currently or has Selebus indicated that there might be any real consequences relating to who wins the dorm wars? I was hoping to get it to be a tie, but if you have all lust events happen, it's an odd number of points so a tie is impossible. I know people just loooove to have "meaningful decisions" in their games, but I'm more about getting the full experience and would rather just avoid anything that will block parts of the game from happening...
 

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Also, question: are there currently or has Selebus indicated that there might be any real consequences relating to who wins the dorm wars?
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say since those exist that it was at least planned that there would be consequences. A tie seems possible, through the cheats.
 

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Also, question: are there currently or has Selebus indicated that there might be any real consequences relating to who wins the dorm wars? I was hoping to get it to be a tie, but if you have all lust events happen, it's an odd number of points so a tie is impossible. I know people just loooove to have "meaningful decisions" in their games, but I'm more about getting the full experience and would rather just avoid anything that will block parts of the game from happening...
What happens if you tie in the dorm war
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Yeah, same here. Whenever a new character gets introduced, I go in and immediately edit their affection and lust values to 100. I don't want to miss a scene just because I didn't grind lust points without knowing I was supposed to have done so.
I'd be careful with that. Given that it's impossible to generate more than N points of either in a given unit of time, it's not uncommon for events to implicitly contain assumptions like "you will have a Tuesday with affection> 10 before you ever have a Monday with affection > 30". You'll _probably_ still see everything, but the order might be jumbled. In a game as immersive as LiL that'd suck.
 
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bobvilla123

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You'll _probably_ still see everything, but the order might be jumbled.
It shows main events in order. Side events related to the girls might be off by a hair, but given how mushy mouthed the story gets as you progress it doesn't affect the story much. You start with the assumption that people who aren't interested in grinding are interested in every detail of the story as intended. I'm not going to lie, by the end of the first chapter I was over the story. CTRL was held down most of the time for all but 2 or 3 girls stories. Once you have reached the point you want Maya to die in a housefire you're no longer concerned if her story is coherent.
 

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After playing this game for like 30 hours I must say, that if there is an oxford dictionary entry for "blue balls" or "(to be) cockblocked", screenshot from LiS should be placed somewhere there at the top.

I've not ever played something both somewhat enjoyable and at the same time this frustrating before.

You know that you are playing a porn game. The game knows you are playing a porn game. Characters in the game knows they are in a porn game. They clearly refer to each other as a porn game characters. Author of a game knows that you are playing a porn game. Not one, but TWO characters in the game actively harass you because you are a porn game protagonist.

And at the same time the gameplay is like "Hey, you've seen this minor H-scene? Well, good for you, now you get to grind like 56 story events with unknown triggers and no way to know which way you need to focus yourself, good fucking luck!".

P.S. Also I'm a bit salty that Yumi, Sana, Miku, Rin, Maya and Chinami, each one of them, are missing H-scenes (well, almost). Whole plethora of girls appeasing to "character with severe problems" fetish, and none of them are bangable. God damn.

P.P.S. I'm not complaining about free stuff or enforcing my opinion on author, please don't kill me. I'm just mildly annoyed that my time investment did not yield expected profits.
 

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So... this is the first time I'm playing the game and I wanna know what happened to the sex scenes? Is this a censored version where the author removed said scenes? Or are they unlocked later on in the game? (So far I'm still playing chap. 1). Whenever there's a sex scene the MC just goes "hug" mode with the girls but there are no scenes... (I only managed to see a couple scenes so far where there's actually any action)
 

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So... this is the first time I'm playing the game and I wanna know what happened to the sex scenes? Is this a censored version where the author removed said scenes? Or are they unlocked later on in the game? (So far I'm still playing chap. 1). Whenever there's a sex scene the MC just goes "hug" mode with the girls but there are no scenes... (I only managed to see a couple scenes so far where there's actually any action)
The compressed version available on the main page is missing the folders that enable the adult content.

Either download the full-size install from here, or from the itch.io page. Someone else posted a compressed link that they claim works, but I haven't verified. There's a link to that on one of the last three pages of this thread.
 
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After playing this game for like 30 hours I must say, that if there is an oxford dictionary entry for "blue balls" or "(to be) cockblocked", screenshot from LiS should be placed somewhere there at the top.

I've not ever played something both somewhat enjoyable and at the same time this frustrating before.

You know that you are playing a porn game. The game knows you are playing a porn game. Characters in the game knows they are in a porn game. They clearly refer to each other as a porn game characters. Author of a game knows that you are playing a porn game. Not one, but TWO characters in the game actively harass you because you are a porn game protagonist.

And at the same time the gameplay is like "Hey, you've seen this minor H-scene? Well, good for you, now you get to grind like 56 story events with unknown triggers and no way to know which way you need to focus yourself, good fucking luck!".

P.S. Also I'm a bit salty that Yumi, Sana, Miku, Rin, Maya and Chinami, each one of them, are missing H-scenes (well, almost). Whole plethora of girls appeasing to "character with severe problems" fetish, and none of them are bangable. God damn.

P.P.S. I'm not complaining about free stuff or enforcing my opinion on author, please don't kill me. I'm just mildly annoyed that my time investment did not yield expected profits.
Yeah, it can be confusing in relation to that. But Sel wants the focus to be on the story, and not on the sex. Being real, it's likely only a porn game in the first place because sex sells and it generates a lot of interest quickly. People tend to start playing for the sex, and continue playing for the story
 
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P.P.S. I'm not complaining about free stuff or enforcing my opinion on author, please don't kill me.
My reputation precedes me. Excellent.

Nothing you said isn't a fair critique. You're absolutely right, you're not demanding shit. Hell I'm frustrated with a lot in this game. Selebus *is* present here, or was, so you're not just yelling in a Pizza Hut about MCDonalds. No need for an apology, and I won't be giving you a link to the renpy quickstart manual. :D

PS The majority of characters I dont want to see die horrific and brutal deaths are also the same as the ones youre frustrated about not having more of. Maya can die. In a housefire. Fuck her.
 

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It shows main events in order. Side events related to the girls might be off by a hair, but given how mushy mouthed the story gets as you progress it doesn't affect the story much. You start with the assumption that people who aren't interested in grinding are interested in every detail of the story as intended. I'm not going to lie, by the end of the first chapter I was over the story. CTRL was held down most of the time for all but 2 or 3 girls stories. Once you have reached the point you want Maya to die in a housefire you're no longer concerned if her story is coherent.
After playing a certain VN, I do not wish to ever seen any love interest ever die in another house fire. That shit was very hard to deal with.
 

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After playing a certain VN, I do not wish to ever seen any love interest ever die in another house fire. That shit was very hard to deal with.
Now you've piqued my interest, which VN did this? I haven't seen an Hgame aside from My Lovely Wife kill off boobies outside of a snuff situation.
 

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Acting Lessons
Thanks for the recommendation. Played through it, probably one of the best VNs out there. I cant really compare that housefire to the one I want Maya to die in. Since I dont like Maya at all. But I can see how ALs housefire would put you off that.
 

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Thanks for the recommendation. Played through it, probably one of the best VNs out there. I cant really compare that housefire to the one I want Maya to die in. Since I dont like Maya at all. But I can see how ALs housefire would put you off that.
If you liked Acting Lessons, you're probably gonna love Being a Dik, if you have not already played it. Just leaving the reccomendation.
 
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