hth2m1

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That wasn't the first part. This was the first part:
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You're only acknowledging the words that fit how you want to see things, tbh. While ignoring the beginning and the end of what Maya is saying, which both note it's the resets that are responsible.

To be frank, Psycho Ami and Real Ami seem to be more or less separate beings that share the same body.

This is also likely why Ami has noted:
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In the bonus Ami event.

It's possible Real Ami is even being possessed by Psycho Ami at the moment.
I'm not ignoring things that don't fit what I'm saying I'm just saying that while Maya seems to be convinced the resets are to blame for Ami going crazy, she's also saying things (and past events also support) that indicate it's not JUST the resets that set her off. A thing that's been coming up more and more often recently is the implication that Maya's memories aren't any more trustworthy than anyone else's, and that despite her thinking she knows the way the world works better than anyone else she can be and has been wrong about things, if anything her confidence in her understanding of things tends to make her blind to certain things that others can see with a fresh perspective.

I didn't mean to imply that was the first thing Maya said, that was poorly worded on my part, I just meant she said that during the first part of her explanation. Basically what I'm getting at is that Maya's explanation is contradictory, so even if she explicitly says that the resets are the cause I don't necessarily believe her.

As for whether psycho Ami is a different person/entity, split personalities, or whatever, I'll freely admit I don't think I know anything for sure, but I do think that even if it's not the "real" Ami, I think it's the version of Ami that we've been interacting with for most of the game at this point, even when she's seemingly acting normal.
 

DeSkel15

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I'm not ignoring things that don't fit what I'm saying I'm just saying that while Maya seems to be convinced the resets are to blame for Ami going crazy, she's also saying things (and past events also support) that indicate it's not JUST the resets that set her off. A thing that's been coming up more and more often recently is the implication that Maya's memories aren't any more trustworthy than anyone else's, and that despite her thinking she knows the way the world works better than anyone else she can be and has been wrong about things, if anything her confidence in her understanding of things tends to make her blind to certain things that others can see with a fresh perspective.

I didn't mean to imply that was the first thing Maya said, that was poorly worded on my part, I just meant she said that during the first part of her explanation. Basically what I'm getting at is that Maya's explanation is contradictory, so even if she explicitly says that the resets are the cause I don't necessarily believe her.

As for whether psycho Ami is a different person/entity, split personalities, or whatever, I'll freely admit I don't think I know anything for sure, but I do think that even if it's not the "real" Ami, I think it's the version of Ami that we've been interacting with for most of the game at this point, even when she's seemingly acting normal.
Nothing has actually indicated it's anything except the resets that triggered Ami though. You're just misinterpretating what Maya is saying by focusing on the middle of her explanation. It's only contradictory if you do that.

She's referring to Psycho Ami when she's talking about the violent and illusion stuff. Not Real Ami. It's why it comes after she already mentioned the trigger. It's also why she specifically notes knowing when they are is what changes Ami at the end. Everything that comes afterwards just makes the change grow.

As for Maya's memories, yeah it's reasonable to consider that what she thinks she knows is false. It's quite possible that Psycho Ami never actually did anything that Maya said she did, or even existed. That doesn't change what she's actually said though.

Also, it's possible we've ran into Psycho Ami before or at least glimpses of it. Personally, I think that Mangled/Happy/Memory Ami that shows up in resets is Psycho Ami's "true" form. However, the version that Maya refers to, seems to only occur when the resets are mentioned to Ami according to Maya. That version also seems to be completely uncaring, and even murderous towards Sensei. Meanwhile the Ami we know has done things like held Maya while she cried, and helped Makoto grieve. She's also optionally been rejected by Sensei, and hasn't killed him, so I doubt she's just been secretly Psycho Ami this whole time. Doesn't really fit the whole "dangerous" aspect that Maya tried to sell.

From here on out though, I can see Psycho Ami pretending to not be, well, Psycho.
 
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er3z

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this is my first comment so tell me if i did anything wrong, but i have some questions

first of all, about missed events, i know that there is a "good uncle" and "bad uncle" routes, is not missing all the events the good uncle or bad one? I'm only in the third reset but i still want to see the events that play if you miss any requirements\ pick a different choice, but i dont want to do what i did with rin and manually play the event from the console since i didn't find any savefile that's up to date.

I also tried joining the Discord server again after i left last time to check if maybe there is some sort of FAQ and it says that I'm "unable to accept invite" did i get banned? lol I'm pretty sure i quit the server on my own but maybe they banned me after that for some reason?

edited to say that this is apparently not my first comment, and also that i have a better cheat mode to be able to set the stat per girl and also round everyone up to the nearest multiple of 5 so if anyone wants ill upload it
 
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Vidaura

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I also tried joining the Discord server again after i left last time to check if maybe there is some sort of FAQ and it says that I'm "unable to accept invite" did i get banned? lol I'm pretty sure i quit the server on my own but maybe they banned me after that for some reason?

edited to say that this is apparently not my first comment, and also that i have a better cheat mode to be able to set the stat per girl and also round everyone up to the nearest multiple of 5 so if anyone wants ill upload it
Is your account phone-verified? The discord requires it, and you can get that message if you don't have it.
 

Axismundi

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Lots of text and lots of good points.
My theory is that Ami has always been psychotic. The grief of losing both her parents combined with whatever the second incident is, then immediately after that having to take care of her mentally absent uncle (and possibly sexually abused by Akira while he was out of it, since he has a track record of doing that when he's brain dead, and she looks a lot like Sekai) broke her, just in a different way. I think if we were outside of the loops, she would still become homicidal, just at a much slower rate. If he got back with Niki or hooked up with Sara or any other girl, she'd probably be able to hold it together for a few years before she snapped and did something crazy. She still wants her future with Akira after all, so she'd have to get rid of them carefully. But when Ami learns of the resets, she has no reason to hold back anymore. There are no more permanent consequences for murder or torture. She can make examples of the other girls, and she can repeatedly break Akira without any permanent consequence until she gets the one who loves her and only her.
 
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Vidaura

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In regards to the ongoing best girl debates:

1) Makoto: I love basically everything about her. Her getting more compliments and appreciation from Sensei lately (which she deserves ten times over) has made me very happy. Her becoming a prospective member of the apocalypse squad has made me ecstatic.
2) Ayane: I love her cheerful personality and how she's basically less-insane Ami. Rockstar at the beginning of Ch3 and very nearly eclipsed Makoto in my ranking.
3) Futaba: Such a sweet and gentle girl. Deserves more hugs.
Honorable mentions: Yumi, Noriko, and Chika
 

KnowNoHope

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My theory is that Ami has always been psychotic. The grief of losing both her parents combined with whatever the second incident is, then immediately after that having to take care of her mentally absent uncle (and possibly sexually abused by Akira while he was out of it, since he has a track record of doing that and she looks a lot like Sekai) broke her, just in a different way. I think if we were outside of the loops, she would still become homicidal, just at a much slower rate. If he got back with Niki or hooked up with Sara or any other girl, she'd probably be able to hold it together for a few years before she snapped and did something crazy. She still wants her future with Akira after all, so she'd have to get rid of them carefully. But when Ami learns of the resets, she has no reason to hold back anymore. There are no more permanent consequences for murder or torture. She can make examples of the other girls, and she can repeatedly break Akira without any permanent consequence until she gets the one who loves her and only her.
that or the fact OTHER people learning of the resets means Ami is starting to lose control of the world she created for akira and has to reassert her control (dominance) over the other girls
"this is MY world, I MADE it for HIM, you think you have any right to be happy, any right to CHANGE IT!" - ami ranting in the future... maybe.
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the girls are basically running on a script and general expected behavior till they realize its not real
they are essentially controllable till they realize they are trapped inside a box and then want out
 
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k1n5l4y3r

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this is my first comment so tell me if i did anything wrong, but i have some questions

first of all, about missed events, i know that there is a "good uncle" and "bad uncle" routes, is not missing all the events the good uncle or bad one? I'm only in the third reset but i still want to see the events that play if you miss any requirements\ pick a different choice, but i dont want to do what i did with rin and manually play the event from the console since i didn't find any savefile that's up to date.

I also tried joining the Discord server again after i left last time to check if maybe there is some sort of FAQ and it says that I'm "unable to accept invite" did i get banned? lol I'm pretty sure i quit the server on my own but maybe they banned me after that for some reason?

edited to say that this is apparently not my first comment, and also that i have a better cheat mode to be able to set the stat per girl and also round everyone up to the nearest multiple of 5 so if anyone wants ill upload it
The "good/bad uncle" routes are all about Ami, if you choose to "finger your niece" or not: good uncle didn't finger the niece, bad uncle did; the rest of the missed scenes doesn't seen to impact the story too much for now, from the top of my head you mostly miss Yumi fingering herself on the Nodoka event, cat girl sex with Maki and Haruka and conforting Rin after her confession, could be wrong.
 

fdsasdf_p

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this is my first comment so tell me if i did anything wrong, but i have some questions

first of all, about missed events, i know that there is a "good uncle" and "bad uncle" routes, is not missing all the events the good uncle or bad one? I'm only in the third reset but i still want to see the events that play if you miss any requirements\ pick a different choice, but i dont want to do what i did with rin and manually play the event from the console since i didn't find any savefile that's up to date.

I also tried joining the Discord server again after i left last time to check if maybe there is some sort of FAQ and it says that I'm "unable to accept invite" did i get banned? lol I'm pretty sure i quit the server on my own but maybe they banned me after that for some reason?

edited to say that this is apparently not my first comment, and also that i have a better cheat mode to be able to set the stat per girl and also round everyone up to the nearest multiple of 5 so if anyone wants ill upload it
Not missing = having to fuck your niece = bad uncle (though ppl here would say tending to your niece's need is the good uncle but that's beside the point)

For replaying events to see slight dialogue variations based on player choices, I'd say use URM so that you can easily switch between routes and view all of them.
 
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KnowNoHope

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Not missing = having to fuck your niece = bad uncle (though ppl here would say tending to your niece's need is the good uncle but that's beside the point)

For replaying events to see slight dialogue variations based on player choices, I'd say use URM so that you can easily switch between routes and view all of them.
i still havent figured out how to use urm properly. i only spent like 15 minutes looking at it and going...wtf do I do, this is time consuming to learn, going to go do something else now.
I only want it to force it to play scene's I normally wouldn't see or unlock replays without having to play the entire game again on an old version.
 

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i still havent figured out how to use urm properly. i only spent like 15 minutes looking at it and going...wtf do I do, this is time consuming to learn, going to go do something else now.
I only want it to force it to play scene's I normally wouldn't see or unlock replays without having to play the entire game again on an old version.
URM does that, it gives you a handy little pop-up in the top left corner too during the game once you move the folder into where it tells you to
 

blackredfish

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Nothing has actually indicated it's anything except the resets that triggered Ami though. You're just misinterpretating what Maya is saying by focusing on the middle of her explanation. It's only contradictory if you do that.
While I'm with you in here and understood Maya's words in the same way, it's not 100% confirmed that's how it is. For example, Todd being killed could hint that Psycho Ami has been going unleashed for a while now. It's not a contradiction since Ayane's been babbling about the loop since she survived the reset, maybe puttin Ami on alert. Still, it must be noted that this happened AFTER she confronted Ami about Akira and can't be discarded as a cause of triggering. If it was her obviously, Todd's dead is weird and seems the consecuence of a moment of rage rather than something planned since it wasn't followed with a threat letter to Ayane or something.

Now, I'm more interested in information Maya keep saving to herself. What happens to the girls attacked by Ami? Do they die and instantly go back to life? Are they revived after a reset if Sensei makes it thorugh? Are their memories rewritten? How many of them? Do they get scarred in some way? Because if nothing changes, what's the point?

Was Maya a target at least once? Odds are that she was with all the imagery of she being crucified and tortured. There's also confimation of Ami being jealous of her and not really buying her disdain for Sensei. And she was the culprit of trigering Ami many times. Why would she be spared then? Now again, if that happened, how did she survive with her memories and everything?

Maya know the answers to most of these if not all questions. No reason to being cryptic and leave us in the dark anymore.
 
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Bingoogus

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I am constantly running out of reactions every single day, i've picked up that there should be a max of 40 but the rate i seem to regain them is not 40 per day so i don't know how it actually works but i've had to let so many comments go without reactions and i just want everyone to know, yes, i am a reaction slut, but i always react honestly so if you felt something you wrote ought to have got a reaction out of me but didn't, it's simply cause i was all out at that point and if tried going back when i have more i'd simply fall ever further behind so just assume i would've reacted if i could if you think i would've.
 

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from the top of my head you mostly miss Yumi fingering herself on the Nodoka event, cat girl sex with Maki and Haruka and conforting Rin after her confession, could be wrong.
I'd say bad homie actualy more interesting that good homie route. Instead of events you miss you would get high quality jokes from Rin. But wouldn't kiss her afair
 

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While I'm with you in here and understood Maya's words in the same way, it's not 100% confirmed that's how it is. For example, Todd being killed could hint that Psycho Ami has been going unleashed for a while now. It's not a contradiction since Ayane's been babbling about the loop since she survived the reset, maybe puttin Ami on alert. Still, it must be noted that this happened AFTER she confronted Ami about Akira and can't be discarded as a cause of triggering. If it was her obviously, Todd's dead is weird and seems the consecuence of a moment of rage rather than something planned since it wasn't followed with a threat letter to Ayane or something.

Now, I'm more interested in information Maya keep saving to herself. What happens to the girls attacked by Ami? Do they die and instantly go back to life? Are they revived after a reset if Sensei makes it thorugh? Are their memories rewritten? How many of them? Do they get scarred in some way? Because if nothing changes, what's the point?

Was Maya a target at least once? Odds are that she was with all the imagery of she being crucified and tortured. There's also confimation of Ami being jealous of her and not really buying her disdain for Sensei. And she was the culprit of trigering Ami many times. Why would she be spared then? Now again, if that happened, how did she survive with her memories and everything?

Maya know the answers to most of these if not all questions. No reason to being cryptic and leave us in the dark anymore.
Do we know if Todd came back with the reset? Could be a good indicator if how death works in this world.
 
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