Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.42.0] [Selebus]

[hth2m1]

Just floating this out there to see if anyone has an opinion on this, and I may be imagining it but to me it feels like the resets are happening more frequently. Like wasn't it only 3 or 4 updates since the last one ended.

Yeah, I've definitely noticed the same thing. I can't tell if it's intentional and it's meant to be related to the fact that Akira is changing, or if it's just an unintended consequence of recent events having a few really long event chains and stuff like the timeskip that happened.

I like Niki, but I feel like she'd let Akira stay broken, similar to how Ami takes care of him. I think Imani is a better choice. He seems to have grown attached to her quicker then most and I feel like she'd attempt to help him get better. I don't think Niki would help him simply because she wouldn't see it as anything that needs to be fixed, just that he'd need some extra care.

See I don't think Niki would let him stay broken, or at least I think she would actively try to help him improve (even if she'd accept him if he ultimately stayed broken). Remember that she chose to expose him to things she knew would hurt him because she thought it would ultimately help him, she's arguably done more to help Akira progress than any other character at this point.

As for Imani, I don't think she'd be a bad choice for Akira to ultimately end up with, but I also don't feel like we've had nearly enough interaction between the two of them for it to make more sense than Niki right now. Sure they have chemistry, but she's still really just the new girl we know almost nothing about who has actively avoided actually getting close to Akira in any kind of intimate way, even if we have clear indications that she does think of him in that way.

 

[ccxvidonaferens]

First reset 0.5.0
Second reset 0.11.0
Third reset 0.18.0
Fourth reset 0.23.0 to 0.25.0
Fifth reset 0.29.0
Sixth reset at least 0.34.0 (updates until 0.33.0 already scheduled)

Distance between second and third reset seems to be fluke, in other cases it takes about 5 patches

Maybe it's more of a false impression due to the Fourth reset occuring over 2 updates with the rework in the middle.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Just floating this out there to see if anyone has an opinion on this, and I may be imagining it but to me it feels like the resets are happening more frequently. Like wasn't it only 3 or 4 updates since the last one ended.

First reset: v.5
Second: v.11
Third: v.18p2
Fourth: Begain in v.23p2, ended in v.25p1 (v.24 was the rework, which did not advance the story)
Fifth: v.29

Part of the reason it feels faster is because we are now getting 1 big update instead of 2 small updates per month. With the extended holiday break, the gap between the 4th and 5th resets actually felt longer, despite fewer version numbers (the fact that v.26 was split into 3 parts is part of that, as well).

 

[BlackDays]

Consider that it might not be Ami being fucked that is the key here, rather than seeing it as a checklist for who's been sexed up it might instead be a set of checkmarks for something completely different, like a checklist for Sensei's progress through the gods plans for him. 'ate a sandwich' 'had a bath' 'fucked Ami' 'met Noriko' 'witnessed Ayana's giant banana' etc. as one shitty example. I've got no ideas, just trying to enlarge the possible scope for you theory dudes.

I'd say ("their", if there is a "their") "the" plan is to fix the girls. Someone (ingame), was it hope?, said that Akira is supposed to fix them, smth like that.
And ofcourse we have the "wonder in which one you cuuuuuuuuuum" recently. Maybe Akira is supposed to fix 'em with his DNA

 

[Pervyfox]

Favorite girl aesthetically is definitely Maya. but im also a hard Maya main lol. also don't forget that Noriko says she has the perfect ass on noriko's ass scale lol.
While I personally want Maya and Akira to be endgame, that relationship isnt good for either of them. But shes waited so many fucking years for him that i'd feel awful if they weren't endgame lmao.
Niki is a close 2nd though, and she definitely is willing to put in the work to get him to be better as pointed out above. childhood friend is such a good trope too.

 

[rianzz]

I just noticed that when everyone gave their opinion on who Akira should end up with, absolutely no one said Ami, I'm so proud of you guys.

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

My favorite model is Rin, and the one who would be the most attractive IRL (and seeing as people are citing personality and financial traits as well) my favourite would be Ami, cute, dedicated, perverted, great cook, just 10/10 in all categories.

 

[hth2m1]

(and seeing as people are citing personality and financial traits as well) my favourite would be Ami, cute, dedicated, perverted, great cook, just 10/10 in all categories.

You uh... you all caught up on the current release and everything?

 

[Riolol]

I just noticed that when everyone gave their opinion on who Akira should end up with, absolutely no one said Ami, I'm so proud of you guys.

The thing is, I'm pretty sure not putting her with Akira is what creates Psycho Ami so we are all to blame for that.

 

[DeSkel15]

I'd say ("their", if there is a "their") "the" plan is to fix the girls. Someone (ingame), was it hope?, said that Akira is supposed to fix them, smth like that.
And ofcourse we have the "wonder in which one you cuuuuuuuuuum" recently. Maybe Akira is supposed to fix 'em with his DNA

Considering HOPE says things like this:

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And there's usually stuff mentioned like this when it's around:

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I don't think HOPE wants you to do much besides fuck, and sacrifice the ones you fuck, to it, in order to survive.

 

[DeSkel15]

The thing is, I'm pretty sure not putting her with Akira is what creates Psycho Ami so we are all to blame for that.

Psycho Ami apparently only triggers when Ami is told about the resets. Why that is, isn't clear, but Maya made sure to note Psycho Ami isn't Real Ami.

Real Ami only becomes Psycho Ami due to outside interference:

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In otherwords: It was actually likely Makoto who created Psycho Ami this time (Due to no one telling her not to tell Ami). In the past, it was Maya who seemed to create her.

 

[Riolol]

Psycho Ami apparently only triggers when Ami is told about the resets. Why that is, isn't clear, but Maya made sure to note Psycho Ami isn't Real Ami.

Real Ami only becomes Psycho Ami due to outside interference:

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In otherwords, it was actually likely Makoto who created Psycho Ami this time (Due to no one telling her not to tell Ami). In the past, it was Maya who seemed to create her.

Didn't Maya say something like "Ami needs to believe Sensei loves her and is in love with her or she gets violent"? (I'll have to replay the scene to check) Seems to me like him ending up with anybody else could be a trigger.

 

[hth2m1]

Psycho Ami apparently only triggers when Ami is told about the resets. Why that is, isn't clear, but Maya made sure to note Psycho Ami isn't Real Ami.

Real Ami only becomes Psycho Ami due to outside interference:

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In otherwords, it was actually likely Makoto who created Psycho Ami this time (Due to no one telling her not to tell Ami). In the past, it was Maya who seemed to create her.

We're not actually told that it's only learning about the resets that send Ami over the edge, just that attempting to tell her about them triggers her psycho behavior. Maya made it sound like anything that jeopardizes her ideal world she wants to live is can do the trick, which makes sense when you think back to the event that had Noriko hiding in the closet. There was nothing happening there that clued Ami in about the resets, she was just about to go off the deep end because she thought (correctly) that Akira was messing around with someone else. She even said something along the lines of she would have to make sure nobody could hurt him anymore if he lied to her, which along with her behavior made it pretty clear she was talking about doing something really drastic either to Akira or more likely to anyone/everyone she saw as a threat.

 

[DeSkel15]

Didn't Maya say something like "Ami needs to believe Sensei loves her and is in love with her or she gets violent"? (I'll have to replay the scene to check) Seems to me like him ending up with anybody else could be a trigger.

Not quite. The resets trigger her, but anything that gets in the way of her perfect world afterwards makes her violent.

Maya explains it as the Resets are the seed, but everything afterwards just makes the change grow:

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In otherwords: Real Ami is safe unless the resets get mentioned. Then she becomes Psycho Ami and then things can get dangerous.

Think The Hulk. Real Ami is Bruce Banner, but Psycho Ami is Hulk. Except instead of anger triggering the change, it's the knowledge of the resets. Then she just grows deadlier and deadlier when things don't go her way.

 

[hth2m1]

Not quite. The resets trigger her, but anything that gets in the way of her perfect world afterwards makes her violent.

Maya explains it as the Resets are the seed, but everything afterwards just makes the change grow:

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In otherwords: Real Ami is safe unless the resets get mentioned. Then she becomes Psycho Ami and then things can get dangerous.

Think The Hulk. Real Ami is Bruce Banner, but Psycho Ami is Hulk. Except instead of anger triggering the change, it's the knowledge of the resets. Then she just grows deadlier and deadlier when things don't go her way.

I'm still not convinced the resets are required to trigger her change, that wording from Maya is pretty vague and still reads to me like she's saying anything challenging Ami's understanding of the world (I love Sensei, Sensei loves me and nobody else, I am the only thing he needs and he can't live without me) can push her over the edge. Because again remember, she's been acting pretty off for a WHILE now, and we have no reason to believe she's been aware of the resets that whole time. Stuff like the Noriko event, snapping at Haruka in a really uncomfortable way, etc. really read as the cracks starting to show and they had nothing to do with the resets.

 

[DeSkel15]

I'm still not convinced the resets are required to trigger her change, that wording from Maya is pretty vague and still reads to me like she's saying anything challenging Ami's understanding of the world (I love Sensei, Sensei loves me and nobody else, I am the only thing he needs and he can't live without me) can push her over the edge. Because again remember, she's been acting pretty off for a WHILE now, and we have no reason to believe she's been aware of the resets that whole time. Stuff like the Noriko event, snapping at Haruka in a really uncomfortable way, etc. really read as the cracks starting to show and they had nothing to do with the resets.

Not really... She says Ami can't know "when we are. Because that's what changes her". It's rather blatant, and not vague at all. Why it changes her is vague though.

The stuff you're referring to is just Ami being Ami. She's obsessive, passive aggressive, and defensive when it comes to Sensei.

Psycho Ami probably would have anal raped Noriko to death in that closet, or something. Instead of just cucking her. Same with Haruka, etc.

 

[Riolol]

I'm still not convinced Psycho Ami is even real (sorry Maya fans), Tsuneyo said Maya's memories might be faulty and then suggested she may be untrustworthy plus Noriko told Akira that Maya was a "really bad person" and there is also the way she has been treating Ayane since she became part of the resets. Seems to me like there is at least some groundwork for Psycho Maya, though I'll admit it doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

 

[hth2m1]

Not really... She says Ami can't know "when we are. Because that's what changes her". It's rather blatant, and not vague at all. Why it changes her is vague though.

The stuff you're referring to is just Ami being Ami. She's obsessive, passive aggressive, and defensive when it comes to Sensei.

Psycho Ami probably would have anal raped Noriko to death in that closet, or something. Instead of just cucking her. Same with Haruka, etc.

But you're ignoring the whole first part of Maya's explanation, when she explicitly says "the only thing preventing her from becoming violent is the illusion that she lives the perfect life". Like yes, learning about the resets will absolutely immediately flip the switch for her, but everything we've seen seems to indicate that she would also go off from anything that ruins her fantasy that she and Akira are perfectly happy together and devoted to each other. Yeah, she probably would have done something extreme to Noriko or Haruka if she caught them in the act, but she didn't so instead she just very clearly implied to Akira that if he's lying to her and she finds out she's going to become violent.

I'm still not convinced Psycho Ami is even real (sorry Maya fans), Tsuneyo said Maya's memories might be faulty and then suggested she may be untrustworthy plus Noriko told Akira that Maya was a "really bad person" and there is also the way she has been treating Ayane since she became part of the resets. Seems to me like there is at least some groundwork for Psycho Maya, though I'll admit it doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

I am also not convinced psycho Ami is real, but not in the same way you are. I think Maya is fooling herself that the violent Ami isn't the real one because she is incapable of not loving Ami and seeing her as perfect (possibly due to her relationship with the world/gods/whoever is actually responsible for creating the loops). I think psycho Ami is just Ami when she stops pretending.

 

[derekthered56]

I just noticed that when everyone gave their opinion on who Akira should end up with, absolutely no one said Ami, I'm so proud of you guys.

I'm just glad no one suggested a wizard.

 

[DeSkel15]

But you're ignoring the whole first part of Maya's explanation, when she explicitly says "the only thing preventing her from becoming violent is the illusion that she lives the perfect life". Like yes, learning about the resets will absolutely immediately flip the switch for her, but everything we've seen seems to indicate that she would also go off from anything that ruins her fantasy that she and Akira are perfectly happy together and devoted to each other. Yeah, she probably would have done something extreme to Noriko or Haruka if she caught them in the act, but she didn't so instead she just very clearly implied to Akira that if he's lying to her and she finds out she's going to become violent.

That wasn't the first part. This was the first part:

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You're only acknowledging the words that fit how you want to see things, tbh. While ignoring the beginning and the end of what Maya is saying, which both note it's the resets that are responsible.

To be frank, Psycho Ami and Real Ami seem to be more or less separate beings that share the same body.

This is also likely why Ami has noted:

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In the bonus Ami event.

It's possible Real Ami is even being possessed by Psycho Ami at the moment.