Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.42.0] [Selebus]

[BlackDays]

That Sensei came inside Makoto before she joined RAS

Where?
Looking through the code you posted, i didn't see where that might have been the case.
Quite the opposite actually, she's implicating he never did, up to where that code is from.
Which update was that?

 

[GSwole]

Well hey, I'm a pretty new commenter! Discovered the game a couple months ago and am completely hooked. Tbh, between here and the official Discord server, this seemed like the better option. The people here on this thread seem pretty easygoing and super invested in the game, so it only made sense.

Yeah, I wish I had friends I could talk about this game with too, honestly. But as you said, it can be difficult.

theres also just tons of information that never make it here or get known from the discord. being here is akin to accepting youll never have the full picture aside from what ppl here leak from sub channels

 

[Angra Shadow]

No, Judas was actually Ami, Selebus confused his places with Ayane, in the old posts here it was reiterated quite a few times by himself.

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Ugh, maybe I give this man Sel too much credit sometimes. Whenever I find out stuff like this it demotivates me from theorycrafting.

 

[Unseenatlas]

Where?
Looking through the code you posted, i didn't see where that might have been the case.
Quite the opposite actually, she's implicating he never did, up to where that code is from.
Which update was that?

1)when she was depressed for her fathers death(before)
2)when she found about the reset stuff(no scene but states that they had condomless sex)(after)
3)there is a repeatable scene in ch3 called 'sitting doggystyle (makoto)'. press h to hide text bar if you have it and you will see that sensei has no condom on.(after-as far as i remember it unlocks after she joins ras)

 

[Duskreyn]

Agree, with Jelf there, The impregnation theory is more than alive. Although it may not be the only thing in itself, it is a connected detail.

Spoiler: Suffer the Same

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black screen, so well it's very clear that this is indicating here at least they had this sex, not to mention what I imagine more times before the reset, with Makoto without worries of getting pregnant. and lately No sex scenes have been explicitly shown in the main story since the beach scene even though they are happening, even if skips her repeatable animation is more than evident.


A couple of additional facts on the subject of RAS, both Ayane and Makoto were previously on the Rooftop before the whole reset/apocalypse thing, Makoto was in a different view, bluejay and until recently in Young Cardinals
Ayane was on the rooftop at Forever Yours (Top of the World) and then she returns, on Nevermind a few hours/moments before the reset.

implying that at least it is related or connected to being ''called'' or visiting the place before. They may be involved in some kind of relationship with Akira.

other information, given that Yumi and Tsuneyo have a connection with all this issue of the world and its resets; without being on the rooftop and reset, since they have already been there.

Yumi has gone up to the rooftop at Contractions, when she asks for help with her lessons.

And where is Tsuneyo's first meeting and her first appearance on the Rooftop. in Tsuneyo Tojo, Stand-up Comedian.

So keep in mind, if you want a girl to go or theorize who will go to the RAS, maybe first you want that girl to go to the rooftop for a bit in some event outside of reset, which could be a good sign.

 

[BlackDays]

Agree, with Jelf there, The impregnation theory is more than alive. Although it may not be the only thing in itself, it is a connected detail.

Spoiler: Suffer the Same

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black screen, so well it's very clear that this is indicating here at least they had this sex, not to mention what I imagine more times before the reset, with Makoto without worries of getting pregnant. and lately No sex scenes have been explicitly shown in the main story since the beach scene even though they are happening, even if skips her repeatable animation is more than evident.


A couple of additional facts on the subject of RAS, both Ayane and Makoto were previously on the Rooftop before the whole reset/apocalypse thing, Makoto was in a different view, bluejay and until recently in Young Cardinals
Ayane was on the rooftop at Forever Yours (Top of the World) and then she returns, on Nevermind a few hours/moments before the reset.

implying that at least it is related or connected to being ''called'' or visiting the place before. They may be involved in some kind of relationship with Akira.

other information, given that Yumi and Tsuneyo have a connection with all this issue of the world and its resets; without being on the rooftop and reset, since they have already been there.

Yumi has gone up to the rooftop at Contractions, when she asks for help with her lessons.

And where is Tsuneyo's first meeting and her first appearance on the Rooftop. in Tsuneyo Tojo, Stand-up Comedian.

So keep in mind, if you want a girl to go or theorize who will go to the RAS, maybe first you want that girl to go to the rooftop for a bit in some event outside of reset, which could be a good sign.

1)when she was depressed for her fathers death(before)
2)when she found about the reset stuff(no scene but states that they had condomless sex)(after)
3)there is a repeatable scene in ch3 called 'sitting doggystyle (makoto)'. press h to hide text bar if you have it and you will see that sensei has no condom on.(after-as far as i remember it unlocks after she joins ras)

Ok guys, lets fiddle this out.

Sorry for asking this, since i didn't provide either (got a bit lazy lately) but for Unseenatlas, could you provide some SS, or at least an event name?

@ Duskreyn:
I remember that event from your Screenshots.
For me it implies they never had unsafe sex before. But since Makoto now knows (from there) that unsafe sex likely won't have consequences (because resets), she's willing to do it.
But as far as i know it didn't happen until now. Unless Sel considers it an offscreen happening.
At least the events we have, story, visit, call over and repeatable character profile lust events, don't support this.

/e *I include cumming outside into safe sex here, for simplicity.

 

[Unseenatlas]

Agree, with Jelf there, The impregnation theory is more than alive. Although it may not be the only thing in itself, it is a connected detail.

Spoiler: Suffer the Same

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black screen, so well it's very clear that this is indicating here at least they had this sex, not to mention what I imagine more times before the reset, with Makoto without worries of getting pregnant. and lately No sex scenes have been explicitly shown in the main story since the beach scene even though they are happening, even if skips her repeatable animation is more than evident.


A couple of additional facts on the subject of RAS, both Ayane and Makoto were previously on the Rooftop before the whole reset/apocalypse thing, Makoto was in a different view, bluejay and until recently in Young Cardinals
Ayane was on the rooftop at Forever Yours (Top of the World) and then she returns, on Nevermind a few hours/moments before the reset.

implying that at least it is related or connected to being ''called'' or visiting the place before. They may be involved in some kind of relationship with Akira.

other information, given that Yumi and Tsuneyo have a connection with all this issue of the world and its resets; without being on the rooftop and reset, since they have already been there.

Yumi has gone up to the rooftop at Contractions, when she asks for help with her lessons.

And where is Tsuneyo's first meeting and her first appearance on the Rooftop. in Tsuneyo Tojo, Stand-up Comedian.

So keep in mind, if you want a girl to go or theorize who will go to the RAS, maybe first you want that girl to go to the rooftop for a bit in some event outside of reset, which could be a good sign.

I like that idea. Maybe they have to visit the rooftop to get the ability to gain awareness of the reset, but to be able to survive the reset, they have to be impregnated(or give up the child inside them.)

 

[Unseenatlas]

Ok guys, lets fiddle this out.

Sorry for asking this, since i didn't provide either (got a bit lazy lately) but for Unseenatlas, could you provide some SS, or at least an event name?


/e *I include cumming outside into safe sex here, for simplicity.

1) white oak door(lust required)
2)suffer the same(no lust required)
3)ch3 repeatable event. (I would include the repeatable event as a 1 time repeat event as it does have new dialogue(each new dialogue I would say is cannon to the story. If dialogue repeats then it's up to the person.)

 

[Unseenatlas]

Is what I have gathered so far is that to gain the ability to understand or notice of resets, you have to have visited the rooftop where the world resets before. So Yumi, Ayane, Tsuneyo, Maya, Sensei and Makoto have visited said place before. That said, they cannot keep their memories as they have not given up a sacrifice. the sacrifice has to be a child that contains sensei's dna(only sensei's as we do not know of any other person who has made it to the end of the world without sensei's dna). Even if sensei has impregnated a woman before they must complete both steps before keeping their memories. (This would explain why Ayane made it to the end of the world but got reset last moment.)

 

[Unseenatlas]

Here is a good question. Who do you think will make it to the rooftop in ch4? Multiple people per reset or just one new person?

 

[BlackDays]

1) white oak door(lust required)
2)suffer the same(no lust required)
3)ch3 repeatable event. (I would include the repeatable event as a 1 time repeat event as it does have new dialogue(each new dialogue I would say is cannon to the story. If dialogue repeats then it's up to the person.)

To 1:
As i have written prior, "White Oak Door" is an optional event. It was the first time (if you manage to not miss it), where Akira cums inside Makoto, because she forces it, aka raping him.
And as i further said, Sel reinforces that it's optional, with a flag, that altered a narrators text in .36.

Spoiler: White Oak Door Bool depandent text in "Hunger Games"

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To 2:
In "Suffer the Same", Makoto realizes that now unsafe sex might not have any consequences (getting pregnant and to carry out a child), so they could have unsafe sex from there on, further reinforcing that they never had unsafe sex before.
Yet it seems she never took on that opportunity yet, till .36's end.

To 3:
Sorry don't know which event you mean.

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

Is what I have gathered so far is that to gain the ability to understand or notice of resets, you have to have visited the rooftop where the world resets before. So Yumi, Ayane, Tsuneyo, Maya, Sensei and Makoto have visited said place before. That said, they cannot keep their memories as they have not given up a sacrifice. the sacrifice has to be a child that contains sensei's dna(only sensei's as we do not know of any other person who has made it to the end of the world without sensei's dna). Even if sensei has impregnated a woman before they must complete both steps before keeping their memories. (This would explain why Ayane made it to the end of the world but got reset last moment.)

This is the one right here. ^ This theory as it’s laid out seems plausible enough based on past evidence, so that’s what I’ll subscribe to for now. Only time will tell, though.

Here is a good question. Who do you think will make it to the rooftop in ch4? Multiple people per reset or just one new person?

Based on the latest update? I think Noriko and Yumi are really good candidates to join the RAS. Yumi once again caught onto the time inconsistencies during her conversation with Chika, and Noriko notices that something is very off with Maya while the others in class don’t.

I suppose if we’re plugging the above theory into the mix, though, have we ever seen Noriko on the school rooftop? I don’t thiiink we have, but maybe I’m misremembering. Or perhaps she’s been there off screen?

Noriko and Yumi both would also need to get pregnant, which… in Yumi’s case, seems quite far off considering her and Akira haven’t done anything sexual yet (that wasn’t forced by Nodoka). Noriko getting pregnant? I see as far more likely than Yumi for the time being.

But yeah, in any case… those two would probably be my top picks for this chapter. We can’t forget about the possibility of Tsuneyo or Rin, though.

 

[Duskreyn]

Sorry don't know which event you mean.

I did know that this had happened, but not sure where, but by replaying it I think I have found definitive proof. We know that suffer the same (0.31) Makoto goes into his unprotected sex mode forever with no consequences. , then if there is a canonical event where it happens, after the talk of feelings in The Rest of Me, in the last beach event Dorm Wars 0.34

Spoiler: Rest of Me

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so while Makoto and Akira are having sex after talk about their feelings, Ami and Maya are having their talk.

After this event, a sex animation event for Makoto is unlocked in the pornshop, which is like a patch/apology so to speak for not showing you what happened at the beach event.

 

[Unseenatlas]

To 1:
As i have written prior, "White Oak Door" is an optional event. It was the first time (if you manage to not miss it), where Akira cums inside Makoto, because she forces it, aka raping him.
And as i further said, Sel reinforces that it's optional, with a flag, that altered a narrators text in .36.

Spoiler: White Oak Door Bool depandent text in "Hunger Games"

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To 2:
In "Suffer the Same", Makoto realizes that now unsafe sex might not have any consequences (getting pregnat and to carry out a child), so they could have unsafe sex from there on, further reinforcing that they never had unsafe sex before.
Yet it seems she never took on that opportunity yet, till .36's end.

To 3:
Sorry don't know which event you mean.

to 3 go to the porn shop in ch3 after suffer the same.(its repeatable and as previous person said, they have done it off-screen like ayane)


as for the first one i can say to veto it as her not getting impregnated on that attempt(cannon or not) , but look at one of the previous post for what the full requirements are according to what has been seen.


(1) they must have seen the rooftop before. (all six have)(maya, sensei, yumi, tsyuneo, ayane, and makoto).
this allows them to gain awareness of resets(or that something is wrong and can find out about resets

(2) they must have been impregnated with sensei(due to dna) to fully keep memories of reset.(4 out of six have)(sensei(he already has his own dna so no need for impregnation), maya(before we awaken-mentioned several times through multiple events talking about having sex with previous sensei's), ayane, and Makoto)
this allows them to get to the end of the world.

(they can do them in any order but must complete both before being able to retain memory of the reset or you will get reset.)

 

[Duskreyn]

(they can do them in any order but must complete both before being able to retain memory of the reset or you will get reset.)

Complementing the theme a little,
Regarding this knowledge theme of Reset, there is a reality check that when the theme is also mentioned, the character repeats and deviates from the theme as if it were an NPC, except clearly Tsuneyo and Yumi. that in some way something fights and causes conflict in their memories.

But there is something more suspicious, and when the theme is lightly touched on in Wakana's last event, she mentions a message from the Bible and Ecclesiastes, so you have to have an eye above it.
but specifically Ecclessiastes 3:1-8

Spoiler: Eclessiastes 3 1:8

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[Unseenatlas]

Who is going to do the resets from now on, without maya, apparently the previous one was done by good boy, the world itself or some God

as far as who does the reset stuff goes, i think either hope or pareidolia(so far hope would only work if yasu joins the apocalypse squad and pareidolia seems to be the most likely as he seems to be sticking with sensei so far.)

 

[BlackDays]

to 3 go to the porn shop in ch3 after suffer the same.(its repeatable and as previous person said, they have done it off-screen like ayane)


as for the first one i can say to veto it as her not getting impregnated on that attempt(cannon or not) , but look at one of the previous post for what the full requirements are according to what has been seen.


(1) they must have seen the rooftop before. (all six have)(maya, sensei, yumi, tsyuneo, ayane, and makoto).
this allows them to gain awareness of resets(or that something is wrong and can find out about resets

(2) they must have been impregnated with sensei(due to dna) to fully keep memories of reset.(4 out of six have)(sensei(he already has his own dna so no need for impregnation), maya(before we awaken-mentioned several times through multiple events talking about having sex with previous sensei's), ayane, and Makoto)
this allows them to get to the end of the world.

(they can do them in any order but must complete both before being able to retain memory of the reset or you will get reset.)

Seems you guys were right with the unsafe sex thing.

The "Repeatable pornshop visit Makoto sitting doggystyle sex scene" seems to be the one event where Makoto might have gotten pregnant.
Funny how that slipped me, guess the sexual part of Lil became increasingly uninteresting for me for some time (years) now.
If it weren't for the grinding in lust points, to not miss events. But i always used dorm visits and call over events for that.

I wonder when that part was introduced in exactly.

 

[Unseenatlas]

Seems you guys were right with the unsafe sex thing.

The "Repeatable pornshop visit Makoto sitting doggystyle sex scene" seems to be the one event where Makoto might have gotten pregnant.
Funny how that slipped me, guess the sexual part of Lil became increasingly uninteresting for me for some time (years) now.
If it weren't for the grinding in lust points, to not miss events. But i always used dorm visits and call over events for that.

I wonder when that part was introduced in exactly.

tbh i will skip them alot of the time as well. i usaly will see them 1 or 2 times and then just hold down ctrl if basic grinding. i think it was introduced in either suffer with me or the beach event as duskreyn said.

 

[Duskreyn]

Seems you guys were right with the unsafe sex thing.
The "Repeatable pornshop visit Makoto sitting doggystyle sex scene" seems to be the one event where Makoto might have gotten pregnant.
I wonder when that part was introduced in exactly.

As I said, some post before, It's not the only one, you can omit this event, but you go to ''The Rest of Me'', Beach dorm wars, (0.34) this event was where Makoto got pregnant with more precision, it was in main story. more consistent. being important in reset theory against only a skippable animation in some playtroughs.

imo, there is sex, in suffer the same even though they don't say it, although since there is no text you can give the benefit of the doubt that perhaps there was nothing there with low probability. then ''the rest of me''. settle any doubts and don't leave that loose end.

 

[DeSkel15]

Agree, with Jelf there, The impregnation theory is more than alive. Although it may not be the only thing in itself, it is a connected detail.

Spoiler: Suffer the Same

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black screen, so well it's very clear that this is indicating here at least they had this sex, not to mention what I imagine more times before the reset, with Makoto without worries of getting pregnant. and lately No sex scenes have been explicitly shown in the main story since the beach scene even though they are happening, even if skips her repeatable animation is more than evident.


A couple of additional facts on the subject of RAS, both Ayane and Makoto were previously on the Rooftop before the whole reset/apocalypse thing, Makoto was in a different view, bluejay and until recently in Young Cardinals
Ayane was on the rooftop at Forever Yours (Top of the World) and then she returns, on Nevermind a few hours/moments before the reset.

implying that at least it is related or connected to being ''called'' or visiting the place before. They may be involved in some kind of relationship with Akira.

other information, given that Yumi and Tsuneyo have a connection with all this issue of the world and its resets; without being on the rooftop and reset, since they have already been there.

Yumi has gone up to the rooftop at Contractions, when she asks for help with her lessons.

And where is Tsuneyo's first meeting and her first appearance on the Rooftop. in Tsuneyo Tojo, Stand-up Comedian.

So keep in mind, if you want a girl to go or theorize who will go to the RAS, maybe first you want that girl to go to the rooftop for a bit in some event outside of reset, which could be a good sign.

This reminded me that Ayane actually brings up a good point after her 'Nevermind' Event, in her 'Before the Sun Comes Up' Event.

How exactly do any of these girls apparently get to the roof when it's supposed to be locked?:

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Sensei doesn't even have a key:

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Only Makoto:

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And supposedly...Yumi:

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(Shapeshifter?) Does. As far as I recall. Maya might.

There's definitely something wrong here, and it's been glossed over since before the first reset.