Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.42.0] [Selebus]

[DeSkel15]

Btw, who do you all think is Next? Who deserves to have Sensei force himself onto them?

It seems like Pareidolia(?) is aiming for a girl that fits that description:

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[Xiondingens]

It is a big difference, but if anything she probably likes Molly more. Plus, if you replace her with Karin, it makes it more taboo, which probably makes it hotter in Kirin's eyes, since she wants to fuck her sister, and is into incest. Kirin also cared about Miku and Noriko, and probably Ayane, but that doesn't stop her from trying to use them to get herself off.

She would probably more likely hang out with molly as with her sister. And sure, i wouldnt be surprised if she had fantasies about that sort of things with her sister. But having fantasies and actually seeing her crumble because of it is something different. And with miku it is something different, that feels much more like something she wants to share. I actually believe in her fucked up mind, she was doing miku a favor. And with ayane there was revenge that played into it. And neither she nor sensei did rape her. She just forced her way into it. Sure that is fucked up, and i never did deny that this is what she is. But i am pretty sure she did justify it in her head in a way that it wasnt as bad as it looks from the outside.

Kirin was worried because that's probably the first time she's ever seen Karin like that, but we didn't see how she would react if she actually knew what happened.

The fact alone that she was worried shows one thing pretty clear. And that is that it doesnt makes her happy to see her sister suffer. We dont need to see what she actually said, or did right after. Because no matter what, it would have been a follow up to her been worried about her sister.

Also, her getting off on actual sexual assault, blackmail, and rape makes it hard to see how you think she's not a monster. I can buy her not being pure evil though, since that's just unrealistic.

She is like all of the other girls broken. In her own mind probably even beyond repair. And when then a situation comes that is a one in a million chance like ayane, she is going to take it. And then is just no longer able to let go. But in the end, she never actually did anything proactivly to really hurt someone. I mean if she really wanted karin to suffer, she would have pushed sensei into that direction. She would have planted a seed in his mind to rape her sister, to really mess her up. But, she didnt do this. The only fucked up sex she did actively pursuit, is and was her own. And that is why i dont think of her as a monster. Real monster dont just wait for chances, they create those chances.

 

[Bingoogus]

Btw, who do you all think is Next? Who deserves to have Sensei force himself onto them?

It seems like Pareidolia(?) is aiming for a girl that fits that description:

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Otoha kinda deserves it...

 

[somepersonoutofnowhere]

Btw, who do you all think is Next? Who deserves to have Sensei force himself onto them?

It seems like Pareidolia(?) is aiming for a girl that fits that description:

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For me, I think it might be one of these four and the reason why Pareidolia would force Sensei onto

Tsubasa is likely since she has let Sensei have permission to touch Touka and gave him Tsukasa's phone number
Uta because of her past
Io because of her talking down about others or something else
And probably the least likely Yuki because of Yumi's childhood

Edit: I forgot Otoha existed but yeah, she's on the list too.

 

[Angra Shadow]

I don't like to ask for guidance with these updates usually but I'm lost on how to unlock anything after the first Yumi event, first Tsuneyo event, first Otoha event, Tsubasa event and the Tsukasa events. I would appreciate it if someone can help.

 

[Xiondingens]

I don't like to ask for guidance with these updates usually but I'm lost on how to unlock anything after the first Yumi event, first Tsuneyo event, first Otoha event, Tsubasa event and the Tsukasa events. I would appreciate it if someone can help.

I wont give you a specific hint, but i will tell you how i usually get all the events. Keep playing, visit the same placed over a whole week, after that visit other places over a whole week, try to call the girls you miss events during different times and days. And always remember, the ctrl skip is your best friend.

 

[somepersonoutofnowhere]

I don't like to ask for guidance with these updates usually but I'm lost on how to unlock anything after the first Yumi event, first Tsuneyo event, first Otoha event, Tsubasa event and the Tsukasa events. I would appreciate it if someone can help.

Don't worry about Tsubasa, Tsukasa should be easy for you to figure out, good luck with the others.

 

[Angra Shadow]

Don't worry about Tsubasa, Tsukasa should be easy for you to figure out, good luck with the others.

Nah those I finished, it's the other characters that I'm stuck on.

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

Nah those I finished, it's the other characters that I'm stuck on.

Refer to the guide in the attached post down below. It should help.

My 0.38 guide. Since Sel updates his game at midnight in my time zone now, I can only make a guide around 8 hours after the update.

I may also make a detailed guide about how to look into the script in the future.

 

[Angra Shadow]

I wont give you a specific hint, but i will tell you how i usually get all the events. Keep playing, visit the same placed over a whole week, after that visit other places over a whole week, try to call the girls you miss events during different times and days. And always remember, the ctrl skip is your best friend.

I was trying that but it was taking a while and no results yet.

Refer to the guide in the attached post down below. It should help.

Thank you

 

[Xiondingens]

I was trying that but it was taking a while and no results yet.

Really? Well that is weird, because i can think of at least three events you should be able to trigger that way and some that just follow up to them. Because that is what i always do and it always works, just like it did in the last update. Which is why i am always confused why people ask for advice to an event i just did trigger by try and error week after week.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Btw, who do you all think is Next? Who deserves to have Sensei force himself onto them?

I honestly don't think anyone deserves to be forced upon by someone twice their size and strength like that.

Some characters have built up more negative karma, sure, but the only people who've done anything bad enough to put sexual assault on the table as punishment would incidentally not view it as a punishment (Kirin and Nodoka, and to a lesser extent, Ami, though she's in the throes of mental illness and gets a partial pass on much of her behavior)

The only person I can think of who has recently built up a lot of negative karma that wouldn't be actively turned on by a suddenly sexually aggressive Sensei is Otoha, and honestly, I think that's coming fairly soon.

 

[Xiondingens]

The only person I can think of who has recently built up a lot of negative karma that wouldn't be actively turned on by a suddenly sexually aggressive Sensei is Otoha, and honestly, I think that's coming fairly soon.

While i agree with the karma part, to me it looks more like she will end up in a route that does involve niki. Too much build up to just abandon that imo.

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

While i agree with the karma part, to me it looks more like she will end up in a route that does involve niki. Too much build up to just abandon that imo.

Meanwhile I’m here patiently hoping for some Niki/Chika content. The potential is right there considering how much of a superfan Chika is of Niki’s. Wonder what her reaction will be when she discovers just how close her idol and Akira actually are.

 

[Xiondingens]

Meanwhile I’m here patiently hoping for some Niki/Chika content. The potential is right there considering how much of a superfan Chika is of Niki’s. Wonder what her reaction will be when she discovers just how close her and Akira actually are.

My guess would be very conflicted at the very least, because she still thinks of herself as the one and only girlfriend.

 

[DeSkel15]

She would probably more likely hang out with molly as with her sister. And sure, i wouldnt be surprised if she had fantasies about that sort of things with her sister. But having fantasies and actually seeing her crumble because of it is something different. And with miku it is something different, that feels much more like something she wants to share. I actually believe in her fucked up mind, she was doing miku a favor. And with ayane there was revenge that played into it. And neither she nor sensei did rape her. She just forced her way into it. Sure that is fucked up, and i never did deny that this is what she is. But i am pretty sure she did justify it in her head in a way that it wasnt as bad as it looks from the outside.
The fact alone that she was worried shows one thing pretty clear. And that is that it doesnt makes her happy to see her sister suffer. We dont need to see what she actually said, or did right after. Because no matter what, it would have been a follow up to her been worried about her sister.
She is like all of the other girls broken. In her own mind probably even beyond repair. And when then a situation comes that is a one in a million chance like ayane, she is going to take it. And then is just no longer able to let go. But in the end, she never actually did anything proactivly to really hurt someone. I mean if she really wanted karin to suffer, she would have pushed sensei into that direction. She would have planted a seed in his mind to rape her sister, to really mess her up. But, she didnt do this. The only fucked up sex she did actively pursuit, is and was her own. And that is why i dont think of her as a monster. Real monster dont just wait for chances, they create those chances.

Kirin fingered Ayane and kissed her against her will:

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Forcing her into this, by threatening to ruin her and Sensei's life, with Ayane being straight and monoamorous on top of this.

There's an obvious reason Ayane considers Kirin Scum:

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Kirin didn't fuck Ayane with a dildo, but for all intents and purposes she chose to violate and traumatize a friend, because she could.

Even the revenge part is just an added bonus according to Kirin who admitted she'd do this to a bunch of other people without it:

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Kirin also compared Ayane (who she violated) to her sister Karin. Even claiming she doesn't force Karin into sex due to the possibility that Karin could get some before her:

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In other words: Kirin is simply too insecure to have Sensei rape her sister.

Also, Kirin found the chance to blackmail Ayane, and she used it to create more chances to take advantage of her (like during the first dorm war). She also brought drugged up Miku to a room so that she could take advantage of her (which I doubt she'd feel guilty about if she was actually thinking it's doing her a favor). So, Kirin did create her own chances.

Personally, Kirin seems Rotten. I wouldn't consider her broken. She's a little too normal to be broken in my point of view. She just wants attention and pleasure.

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

I can totally see Kirin putting Karin in a closet, telling her she will talk to Akira for her, then provoking him into fucking her right in front of the closet while dirty talking about how he almost raped her sister and how good it would be to have them both.

 

[Xiondingens]

for all intents and purposes she chose to violate and traumatize a friend, because she could.

Yes, i never denied that. She is not a good person. A good person would have let that chance slip, no matter how horny she would have gotten, a bad person like kirin took the chance but only a horrible person would have created the chance in the first place. And she wasnt able to let that chance go even after is something i already said. That is why the whole ayana-kirin blackmail didnt stoped from kirins side.

Even the revenge part is just an added bonus according to Kirin who admitted she'd do this to a bunch of other people without it:

I think in this context kirin is not a reliable narrator. She really does big mouth it here. And the same is true for what she said about her sister. Kirin got rid of her V-Card a long time ago by now, and she still didnt do anything regarding to karin.

And miku was just another chance. One to help a friend of her to a break i think kirin did believe she needed. And she again didnt drug miku. If this would have been about force sex uppon her, it would have been easier to just create a lout noise and abuse her in her defenseless state. It would even be more cruel, because it would have guaranteed that miku wouldnt get any pleasure out of it.

Kirin, is not a good person. But i never said that. I said she isnt a monster. She didnt trick ayane to have sex that one day. She didnt drug miku to force into her little sex fantasies. And she didnt made fun or showed joy when she saw her distressed sister. Because she is not a monster. But she isnt a good person either and i am sure she would be the first to admit that. There are two other character that are monster tho. One of them dead and the other dead inside. Kirin looks like a fucking angel -pun intented - compared to those two.

 

[Sorabell]

I can totally see Kirin putting Karin in a closet, telling her she will talk to Akira for her, then provoking him into fucking her right in front of the closet while dirty talking about how he almost raped her sister and how good it would be to have them both.

oh yeah, I could see that. not sure if she is on Ami's level of evilness to do that in the current spot, but that would be fun to observe!!

But I would guess that Kirin will break. she doesn't know what she wants and she doesn't know what she is or is not capable of. she might have thought about those kinda scenarios with sensei and her sister and maybe even wanted to act on it. and maybe she would, under the right circumstances.
context can be everything for decision-making/forming an opinion.
as of the end of this update, my guts tell me it is too much for her, even if she thinks it is not. it's like having a kink or thinking you are capable of something or idk - and then actually trying it and the "oh shit it's not at all how I imagined it" kicking in.
I feel something like that could be the case with Kirin in this situation. and she could break spectacularly. with god sensei's help maybe even. godsensei: "isn't that what you wanted? isn't that what YOU did yourself?"

 

[DeSkel15]

I can totally see Kirin putting Karin in a closet, telling her she will talk to Akira for her, then provoking him into fucking her right in front of the closet while dirty talking about how he almost raped her sister and how good it would be to have them both.

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Yes, i never denied that. She is not a good person. A good person would have let that chance slip, no matter how horny she would have gotten, a bad person like kirin took the chance but only a horrible person would have created the chance in the first place. And she wasnt able to let that chance go even after is something i already said. That is why the whole ayana-kirin blackmail didnt stoped from kirins side.

I think in this context kirin is not a reliable narrator. She really does big mouth it here. And the same is true for what she said about her sister. Kirin got rid of her V-Card a long time ago by now, and she still didnt do anything regarding to karin.

And miku was just another chance. One to help a friend of her to a break i think kirin did believe she needed. And she again didnt drug miku. If this would have been about force sex uppon her, it would have been easier to just create a lout noise and abuse her in her defenseless state. It would even be more cruel, because it would have guaranteed that miku wouldnt get any pleasure out of it.

Kirin, is not a good person. But i never said that. I said she isnt a monster. She didnt trick ayane to have sex that one day. She didnt drug miku to force into her little sex fantasies. And she didnt made fun or showed joy when she saw her distressed sister. Because she is not a monster. But she isnt a good person either and i am sure she would be the first to admit that. There are two other character that are monster tho. One of them dead and the other dead inside. Kirin looks like a fucking angel -pun intented - compared to those two.

Kirin literally created chances, and violated her own friends. Even just happening to come across Ayane wasn't purely by chance, and she didn't need to drug Miku to take advantage of her while drugged.

You're also missing the point about what she said about Karin. It had nothing to do with Virginity. Just sex itself. She didn't want her sister to get more sex than her.

Frankly, Kirin doesn't even look good compared to those two. And she's at least half their age, assuming you mean Sekai and Sensei. She's even sexually assaulted a minor, and tried to more than once. Hasn't quite reached wizard level yet, though.

Edit: In retrospect I don't think either Sekai or Sensei have actually blackmailed someone, let alone a friend, so that they could sexually assault them, like Kirin.