Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.42.0] [Selebus]

[Fire Lord Zuko]

I thought about this too, but this Sensei DOESN'T REMEMBER THE PAST, so it still DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
We never even got a moment that showed just how much he liked her if that was the case, he only told her that he loves her, but never, in any internal monologue or conversation, do you ever have the feeling that her dissappearing would do something like this.
Maybe we are being prepared for a big reveal, but this just stinks of bad writting right now, a case of tension without causation.

While it’s true he doesn’t ‘remember his past’, keep in mind the important detail that he’s willingly suppressing it too. As such, it’s my belief that subconscious feelings are able to slip through the cracks without making themselves immediately presentable.

Akira still feels a deep connection with Sekai, Niki, Noriko, Ami, Ayane and Maya because technically that past still happened and is alluded to in story. Just because Akira is shielding himself from his past trauma by suppressing his memories, doesn’t mean he doesn’t love or care for certain people deep down.

Besides, what was he supposed to do when Maya popped on the roof?

“Oh, well that’s a bummer. Guess we’ll see how this plays out.”?

Nahhh man I’d feel guilty asf too.

 

[Xiondingens]

I thought about this too, but this Sensei DOESN'T REMEMBER THE PAST, so it still DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
We never even got a moment that showed just how much he liked her if that was the case, he only told her that he loves her, but never, in any internal monologue or conversation, do you ever have the feeling that her dissappearing would do something like this.
Maybe we are being prepared for a big reveal, but this just stinks of bad writting right now, a case of tension without causation.

I think this actually works quite well. He took her for granted. That she would always be there. I mean she was from the start. And because he took her for granted and she would always be there, he never really payed much attention how much she actually ment to him. I mean akira is quite an ass who thinks more of himself as of others.

 

[Duskreyn]

Her past is still there, tangled up in the middle of all the happpy events, and in many of those happy events the most repeated character is Maya in a lot of ways proving that even today she is the most relevant character from her past.

I consider that without a doubt of all the ''Akiras'' in all the chapters this one is still the best.
After all, we're talking about a character, who; one, has traumas inflicted by Saki
traumas inflicted by Sekai, possibly by his brother Nozomu/Hope as well.
trauma inflicted by the car accident.
Being rendered totally useless and taken care of by Ami, and then carrying the burden of never being able to take good care of her.
Possibly inheriting all the craziness and weirdness that his father Yuu had.
The beginning that is possibly his past of suicide.
Her eyes which are basically an advanced suicidal state like Makoto post bluejay.

And then Akira/Maya are intertwined in an infinite cosmic reset, with Divine/Cursed intervention, maybe losing this Maya at the end could be the optimal step, even though she could have done thousands of resets, she could never find her way out of it.
The key point will be the next reset, Akira needs to use everything that has happened to find a turning point, supposedly this is the saddest chapter/ he is the collector, the same pareidollia among his possible traps has indicated him that on that path he will never see his ''Maya again'' , so it remains to be seen what he is heading for there.

But if you think about how many things are going to be from now on to finish the whole ''Harem Route'', it's going to be a lot of things in blackout or against his will, unless some resolution happens, because with the last thing that has happened with Karin, it has been shown that Akira doesn't want to do those things, even if he wants to change and move away, from that, the world/Gods/his trauma explodes towards him.

It also leads me to wonder how much control or sanity Akira has in the Dark Route, or if even there it's the perfect opportunity to fight something and be worthy of something in the Purity route, but there's not much information on that.

 

[NoIdealBalance]

Ha ha

 

[Not a Person]

Am I the only one that feels so out of place lately with this whole Maya thing?

As someone that isn't the biggest fan of Maya, it feels weird how Sensei is just so broken now, and how I am absolutely not emotionally impacted at all by her dissapareance, like I don't care that much?

It feels like this "potent" love for her appeared out of nowhere and it doesn't make sense to me. Like you knew he was always interested in her more than the others, but there was never something so deep that he would break mentally the way he did.

It feels weird that I used to be able to understand what Sensei is doing and thinking, and now I feel a total disconnect with the character. I used to understand his views and motives (understand is not the same as agreeing with them), and always wanted to see how else he would fuck up and if he would try to improve. I wanted to see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

He always did what I wanted him to do. Build relations... be a horrible human being... slowly redeem himself... remember his past and understand the truth of his world... "COLLECT"...

Now he is different, I know why he is different, and it doesn't make a damned sense to me.

Well most of the latent feelings are going to be there, remember he chose Maya over Niki and it's likely he was with Maya before he actually broke up with Niki.

Not only that but Maya has been the one proper connection for him through all this, and even without his latent feelings from his past (which he partially remembers but are probably still shining through), she's the one he's always gone to to speak about the reset stuff and has been alongside him through this mess.

And as time grew through Chapter 3 and he learnt more about himself, he always returned to Maya, and would drop everything for Maya. Remember he chose just being close with Maya over having sex with Noriko, which is a pretty pivotal moment for this sex-crazed groomer. When he learnt his name? He called Maya.

It's also been shown that Sensei does not deal with loss well at all. After Sekai died he completely broke down (He broke up with Niki and shut almost everyone out, maybe except Maya?). He's still haunted by it, showing he definitely has some of his memories and is just repressing it. Now add that it's Maya into the mix and you've got a perfect recipe for someone breaking.

Because unless I'm recalling incorrectly, Sensei never actually knew what fully happened during Bluejay, he didn't actually know Makoto killed herself but the world reset it.

Hope that explains a bit.

 

[LoveBlueHairedGirl]

And as time grew through Chapter 3 and he learnt more about himself, he always returned to Maya, and would drop everything for Maya. Remember he chose just being close with Maya over having sex with Noriko, which is a pretty pivotal moment for this sex-crazed groomer. When he learnt his name? He called Maya.

So... You would call it... LESSONS IN LOVE

 

[DeSkel15]

I thought about this too, but this Sensei DOESN'T REMEMBER THE PAST, so it still DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
We never even got a moment that showed just how much he liked her if that was the case, he only told her that he loves her, but never, in any internal monologue or conversation, do you ever have the feeling that her dissappearing would do something like this.
Maybe we are being prepared for a big reveal, but this just stinks of bad writting right now, a case of tension without causation.

Well, Sensei did imply that Ami and Maya Prime were the two most important people in his life through Nao-Chan:

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We also have him ditching Noriko for Maya at the beach, but later panicking then admitting he's scared of a future without Noriko:

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Noriko still being someone surely below Ami and Maya in Sensei's eyes.

There's also how he almost broke down when Maya Prime nearly missed the 4th Reset, mentioned doing the resets with anyone other than Maya and Ayane would feel wrong, in the 5th Reset, and basically spent the time from Beachmas to Maya Prime's demise in the 6th Reset, risking his life by trying to get her to say she loved him, and give in to him.

Recently we also had it revealed that Maya's bday in Chapter 2 is where he had his happiest memory. (Basically since near the end of Chapter 2 to the end of Chapter 3, Sensei's love for Maya Prime was sprinkled throughout.)

I'm not entirely convinced that regaining his memories would actually increase his love for Maya, though. It's Maya memories (Post Tutoring) that seem to break him. Noriko and Ami have also seemed to hint at Maya doing something to hurt Sensei around the time he stopped tutoring:

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What exactly happened and how New Maya is going to react when she finally realizes Sensei is "cheating" on her, are two things I'm looking forward to finding out.

 

[nawt0k]

Save editor, you talking about the Renpy save editor or the saveeditonline one? Neither can generate an unset variable, but the URM can, link in my signature.

I'd like to thank you for this bit. Helped me as I KNEW this choice would probably haunt me and Chinami's cuteness failed me this go round.

Note for those using this. Its not as easy as chinamichosen=false and tsukasachosen=true. You will still find 3 events missed even doing this. You need to find the flags for the 3 tsukasaspringskip booleans and set each of them to false. That will cause the game to NOT skip over then and count as misses. To be safe you could also just set the tsukasaspring variables to true and just watch the events in the replay section. I hope this helps any other lost causes like myself.

 

[Xiondingens]

Yes, i know Bingoogus is always happy to share the URM, but i still want to point out, when you know the name of the variable already anyway, you can also just use the renpy console to set variables that havent been set.

 

[ratmanirl]

Am I the only one that feels so out of place lately with this whole Maya thing?

As someone that isn't the biggest fan of Maya, it feels weird how Sensei is just so broken now, and how I am absolutely not emotionally impacted at all by her dissapareance, like I don't care that much?

It feels like this "potent" love for her appeared out of nowhere and it doesn't make sense to me. Like you knew he was always interested in her more than the others, but there was never something so deep that he would break mentally the way he did.

It feels weird that I used to be able to understand what Sensei is doing and thinking, and now I feel a total disconnect with the character. I used to understand his views and motives (understand is not the same as agreeing with them), and always wanted to see how else he would fuck up and if he would try to improve. I wanted to see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

He always did what I wanted him to do. Build relations... be a horrible human being... slowly redeem himself... remember his past and understand the truth of his world... "COLLECT"...

Now he is different, I know why he is different, and it doesn't make a damned sense to me.

...

...

I don't like this Akira anymore.

I mean, Maya has always been closest to what Akira wants. She (did) understands him better than anyone, and wouldn't punish him for it. Her love for him was unconditional - since she already knew everything, Akira wouldn't have that eternal fear of "messing it up and destroying his relationships" with anyone. He quite literally could do anything, and Maya would still love him. She was someone who accepted him for who he was - a child-molesting pedophile. And now that he lost his safe-space, the person he could always turn to no matter how he fucked up, he's scared and lost.

Now, do you call this love? Idk, but at least to me it certainly doesn't seem very good for Akira if he ever wants to be more than just a monster.

 

[Bingoogus]

Yes, i know Bongoogus is always happy to share the URM, but i still want to point out, when you know the name of the variable already anyway, you can also just use the renpy console to set variables that havent been set.

You dare!? You dare to slander the URM in my home thread!? Out with you! All praise the URM, for it is through its greatness we can give Selly the longest and thiccest of middle fingers.

 

[JelF547]

Petition to force Bingoogus help everybody with "cannot trigger Eggside Octopus" issue

 

[Xiondingens]

What even is that issue? Never heard of it before and i really cant think of anything that would even resemble that description. Is it something that could be ignored easily if people would just read the code instead of bother with sels reset BS?

 

[JelF547]

What even is that issue? Never heard of it before and i really cant think of anything that would even resemble that description. Is it something that could be ignored easily if people would just read the code instead of bother with sels reset BS?

The requirement for Eggside Octopus is exactly 28 ayane events either completed or missed. After first Ayane event in 0.34 game remembers if her events have been missed, but you can still triger them by changing coresponding flag. As a result, these events are counted twice: both as compelted and as missed. Ayane gets 30/28 and Eggside Octopus can't start

tl;dr changing variables may break your save, surprise

 

[Xiondingens]

tl;dr changing variables may break your save, surprise

Yeah, i actually just wait for my savegame to break, because of the changes i did so far.

Edit: You know what? When that happens i will try out the URM and blame Bingoogus when even it cant fix the spaghetti code i created.

 

[Tallestdavid]

How to get any affection points for Tsubasa? Tomos younger sister. Only event I can't do!

 

[JelF547]

How to get any affection points for Tsubasa? Tomos younger sister. Only event I can't do!

You can't. If you affection with her was reset during 5th reset, I think you can't do it without URM

 

[JelF547]

Time for random lil data, today this is h-scenes.

Attention: this data is inaccurate, I am aware of it, you can copy it and fix on your own if you want to

LiL has an average of 6.75 h-scenes per 100k words. Most updates have from 1.8 to 14.7 h-scenes per 100k words, but 0.12 has no h-scenes, 0.23 has only one (per 85k words) 0.6 and 0.4 have 15+ h-scenes per 100k words

Spoiler: Moving average for h-scenes per 100k words

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Spoiler: Raw data

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[Xiondingens]

He said raw.


edit: Tsubasa is anyway stupid to farm any points. Wasnt it that you could only call her on weekends midday? Or even just saturday? I really didnt liked that so just did edit her stats.

 

[Tallestdavid]

Strange. What tool do I use to change her ap?