So what do you guys think is the plan? I mean i think because of the fact that she did agree to niki moving in, it will be about her. But is it about Niki overtaken by Sekai, or is it to completely destroy her releationship with Akira? I mean, i am sure Ami has enough proof for what he is doing to do that.
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She asked her if she would be okay with her having another mental breakdown and "accidentally" hurting her. I think she is going to play dumb and actually harm her hoping Niki will say "yeah fuck this I'm out, this bitch is too cray cray", or something around those lines. I think coming out and telling her straight up that she loves Akira in a more than daughter-father way was also an attempt to make her step back. Maybe is also part of the start into the dark route and Ami eventually going all Higurashi on everyone... here's hoping anyway.
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RE: Nodoka and breaking the script —
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That said, after reading Comiies's interesting rundown, it occurs to me that
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But this clearly wouldnt work. So if -and that is a big if- it would happen that way, not only was the setup pretty poor, it would also end with the status quo. Niki wont leave, ami looking crazy again. And then what? Ami will come up with a new evil plan each update? I really think the only two possibilities that already have set up is, Niki going crazy/getting taken over by sekei -or at least something that looks like her- or Ami leaving evidence out there for Niki to find that Akira fucks over half the class by now.
I mean Sel did introduce the niki lost senity for a reason. And ami has now all the evidence she could ever wanted. And when they life together and might become hard to hide his fuckery already. I mean, from a story perspective it was already hard enough to get ami out of the way for him to invite one of the girls. Now he has to do it with niki too.
Hm, could be the reason the invitation mechanic still hasnt come back online.
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I think Ami is going to try to get caught with Akira by Niki but that might just happen on it's own. It's not really clear how much Ami and Akira have been fucking lately but they surely haven't stopped, moving Niki in is retarded when you think about it (unless you are a good uncle, I always forget that's an option).
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Gentleman, a question i have regarding one of the next version previews we got here.
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And the good uncle path is the reason why that wont happen. And instead it will with a girl where we basically never had any choice.
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Yeah, given that good uncle in an option it kind of debunks Ami's plan being essentialy Niki catching them (it could be more of an accessory). However, I will say that it never fails to amuse me just how much Niki doesn't know about Akira. It's shocking really.
The things she misses on purpose are one thing, like blinding herself to his cheating and overall teenage sex - but things like the incest are really strange. Her idea of having to explain to Ami why incest is bad when she's Sekai daughter is borderline between funny and tragic. Most of all, how come she aknowledges that Akira lost his world when Sekai died, yet thinks he could have been a virgin when they meet again? [...] it's like, what? lol
You're devoting your whole life to this person and yet have no idea about the most important things in his life. Granted, Niki has a lot going for her. But good luck trying to improve Akira when Akira and Ami are going to keep having sex under your roof. I guess we'll learn if Niki's just bark soon enough (cause at the moment, the ability to accept this side of things is the only thing Noriko has going for her - and the lack of a heavier history together too I guess, but that's still an advantage for Niki).
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Fair point, I guess she will just go back to her original plan of chopping his dick off. Maybe that's the thing Sel had planned from year one? I think I'd prefer that over Chinami dying, I assume he'll get it back in a reset anyway.
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Yeah. I find myself wondering how much interaction Niki and Sekai had — if any. Because Sekai was abusing/fucking Akira all through the first stretch that he and Niki were sort-of boyfriend/girlfriend, right? Do we have any in-canon references to non-ghost!Sekai talking with or about Niki? Or Niki talking about Ami's mom as anything but Ami's mom? Does she ever reference "the girl who cannot breathe"?
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Some other questions/thoughts about what Nodoka is letting on in this update.
Q1: What does Nodoka mean when she reaffirmed that Futaba is special? Who is this she?
The she here is highly likely to be Kyoko; the groceries, the attic, and the fact that she's now a proven special case.
I just fail to see how that makes Futaba special; or maybe I misunderstood what Nodoka means here. She perhaps isn't alluding to the origin that makes Futaba special, but is simply saying that a certain she also went through similar paranormal events and is thus deemed special by Nodoka, and now Futaba qualifies as well.
Q2: Can the when and where Nodoka recovered the note her other selves wrote for herself be confirmed by an event?
I wanted to guess that "a place that God himself could never find" is that abandoned school featured in Beyond the Reach of God, but the date couldn't be correct. That event took place in early Ch3 and before Halloween wars so it's for sure not December. However, the rest of that event seems very fitting; venturing out to find something, a mark that resembles lower case T on the ground (perhaps the exact same spot where amiokay got crucified on the cross in The Letter 'T'), the event name itself, etc.
Another possible place is the Wishing Well / The Library where Nodoka is submerged in the pool, but this is supported merely by thoughts like "why not".
Or, since Nodoka from time to time went apeshit well before Beyond the Reach of God, so she might've located this note a lot earlier behind the scene and has been trying to crack it for some time, though in those scenarios she could very well be studying Kyoko's words and not her own. In addition, my impression is that Nodoka would know what her own note meant as soon as she retrieved it; she just struggled with the mechanisms until Yasu enlightened her. All in all, it’s relatively possible that the note was retrieved BTS but it feels a lot less enticing if that’s the case.
Q1: What does Nodoka mean when she reaffirmed that Futaba is special? Who is this she?
The she here is highly likely to be Kyoko; the groceries, the attic, and the fact that she's now a proven special case.
I just fail to see how that makes Futaba special; or maybe I misunderstood what Nodoka means here. She perhaps isn't alluding to the origin that makes Futaba special, but is simply saying that a certain she also went through similar paranormal events and is thus deemed special by Nodoka, and now Futaba qualifies as well.
Q2: Can the when and where Nodoka recovered the note her other selves wrote for herself be confirmed by an event?
I wanted to guess that "a place that God himself could never find" is that abandoned school featured in Beyond the Reach of God, but the date couldn't be correct. That event took place in early Ch3 and before Halloween wars so it's for sure not December. However, the rest of that event seems very fitting; venturing out to find something, a mark that resembles lower case T on the ground (perhaps the exact same spot where amiokay got crucified on the cross in The Letter 'T'), the event name itself, etc.
Another possible place is the Wishing Well / The Library where Nodoka is submerged in the pool, but this is supported merely by thoughts like "why not".
Or, since Nodoka from time to time went apeshit well before Beyond the Reach of God, so she might've located this note a lot earlier behind the scene and has been trying to crack it for some time, though in those scenarios she could very well be studying Kyoko's words and not her own. In addition, my impression is that Nodoka would know what her own note meant as soon as she retrieved it; she just struggled with the mechanisms until Yasu enlightened her. All in all, it’s relatively possible that the note was retrieved BTS but it feels a lot less enticing if that’s the case.
No, it wouldn't work, but I still believe Ami would still try something along those lines, mostly because of the foreshadowing that whole scene implies; of course I could be completely wrong. It is also very possible Sekai is the one who takes action, though I believe it is more likely that she pushes Ami into doing something rather than possessing Niki, though either one is possible.
It is a very bad idea considering that little detail, there is no way they can keep it hidden with Niki living there, but that takes me back to when Niki told Akira she would accept/forgive anything he did (or at least something like that). She knows Ami is into Akira, but she doesn't even suspect Akira in the slightest. Once she knows about them fucking is only a matter of time before she learns more and more.
Really, what Ami does is not really that important in my opinion, but rather what is the line that Niki draws when it comes to Akira and all of the shit he is currently doing and what he has done in the past and what she does about it. I don't expect her to be the one to actually take action against Akira considering what other people have already forgiven/accepted as part of him.
Edit: As a final thought just to add to that last part, I believe the only way to get Niki out of the way is to literally take her out of the picture. Whether or not that will happen or how, idfk. Also, a reset will happen soon, so when things happen and how they play out might be different depending on who is in control at that point, maybe.
You know, i have thought about this for a while already. And i think, maybe she does. Just remember last update how casually she said that Noriko wont get the D. And when Ami is talking about sex, unless i missremember, the problem that Niki points out is incest, not age.
I mean, Niki isnt stupid, her choice to wait for him was deliberately. So what if she is actually aware, but just choose to not speak about it? What if she just did decide to ignore all of it, or something around that line.
Now that i think about it, that would be hilarious, Ami tries to destroy their relationship by letting her know about it, and it blows right back into her own face and Niki just does say "Yeah, so? I knew about this shit for a long time. I dont care, i will still fuck with your dad. As long there is enough dick for me, then i am happy with that D."
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Sensei: "Maki, you've known about a strip club here in town all this time and you've never told me about it?"
Osako: "To be fair, they don't hire your type"
Is she not talking about her mother here? I mean i think it was right before her little porn game she said, "And only then will the words of my mother make sense to me." So unless that Kyoko you talk about is her mother, i would disagree. But, i dont remember ever reading that name. So... do i disagree or do i agree with you here? I am not sure.
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Sekai got pissed when Akira came home with pink hair on his shirt. However, that may have been Akira projecting. The actual time we see Sekai talking about Niki is during that one scene where she has Akira redo his English homework, and she didn't seem to mind Niki, the opposite in fact, she teased Akira about her.
In the scene, however, Akira seemed to be more of a kid though, and Sekai could have gotten mad at her being an actual girlfriend to him when they were older. It's unclear. Akira stated Sekai never treated anything seriously, and he always felt like he was being played by her, so it makes it harder to know what she actually felt about Niki (it would have been unrealistic for her to display actual jealousy when she herself was having sex with Nozomu though - and Akira having a girlfriend could work out well as a smokescreen for Sekai).
Regarding current Sekai, she seems more than okay with Niki (then again she's dead lol) - she goes from saying Niki looks beautiful, to asking who's better at sex and that she won't get mad if it's Niki. As to Niki replacing her, that's when Sekai got mad/sad for the first time. I don't know to what extent this will be present in the game, but it is a real thing that the dead need a place among the living to stop them from vanishing (speaking metaphorically). So, supernatural aside, if Niki really healed their family and became the mom figure, Sekai would disappear for sure (especially this bizarre Sekai "whose word is law").
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I'm going off of memory here so correct me if I'm wrong, but I think our only evidence for Yuu's absence is what we're told in "Goodnight Moon" (which might not even be accurate, it seems to be narrated by Pareidolia). In any case we're not told that Yuu was dead (or how or when he died), so any of the following are possible:
- Rather than dying, Yuu abandoned his family with Saki.
- Memories involving Yuu were retroactively altered, hence why Pareidolia says that no one remembers him.
- The Kyoko in the upside down house was impregnated and this somehow made the Kyoko in Kumon-mi pregnant.
- Kyoko physically traveled to a different plane (like Futaba in TSS2) and was impregnated there.
I agree that she seems to be pretty strongly under Pareidolia's (and Sekai's) influence at this point. A few things from this update:
- She thinks that only she can fix Akira, which is very similar to what SekaiDolia have said at other times. Also the "Only the spiders can save you now, frog boy" from the audio in this event.
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- She thinks that he should just enjoy living forever in a world with a bunch of little girls instead of trying to escape the cycle. Similar to Pareidolia wanting him to stop looking for answers and become the collector.
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- As Moonflare points out, right after the narrator tells him to stay in the room, she immediately tries to get him out of it.
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- She's increasingly having disturbing dreams in which she loses control.
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- She's hearing her brother. This could really be him, but I think it's more likely Pareidolia using him to get in her head, the same way he uses Sekai with Akira.
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Niki has said so herself.She is far too in love with Akira to escape.She is doomed to be hurt by him until she breaks or she dies.This is the unfortunate constitution of our main character.