Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.43.0] [Selebus]

[Remenissions253]

Starting this game from scratch is going to feel like starting One Piece when it's done.

Used to come back every update but now I'm like 4 updates behind and have no motivation to download this big ass thing. I was paying on subscribe star months back but was on F95 already after a care package release so I downloaded the DRMs (dumb me ig, wasn't keeping up with drama) and got my saves fucked, never paying again lmao.

Thank fuck people upload saves, but since then it's hard to want to keep downloading stuff until the game is much further along.

 

[DeSkel15]

So, what does everyone think about Ayane being possibly foreshadowed to betray Maya?:

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There's also the possibility that Current Ayane isn't quite the same Ayane we've known:

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[Odd_Impact6825]

I dunno what I'm supposed to spoiler so I'll just spoiler my question about chapter 2 and future plans.

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[Kitty Hawk]

So, what does everyone think about Ayane being possibly foreshadowed to betray Maya?:

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There's also the possibility that Current Ayane isn't quite the same Ayane we've known:

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Well, Ayane seems to be a much healthier relationship option for sensei compared to Maya. Sure Maya is a lot like him, but that is too much toxicity per square meter and she is currently incapable anyways. Maybe she too needs to be put in her place, just like Ayane did with Ami, considering previous speculations on her influence on Sensei and stubbornness, as well as being unreliable and too secretive. I'm not sure Ayane can betray Maya just to take her place though, it probably needs some catalyst like some dirt on her from the past and late into the cycle or at the reset itself, and so that Maya won't be able to explain herself or will lose all of Ayane's trust (Her previous abstinence theory and Himawari might play a role here).
Active presence of Himawari could also make Sensei feel guilt and shame and to be much more emotionally attached to Ayane, which she didn't see yet as we did it with Makoto and which Ayane deserves a lot. He will probably even start ranting about how he doesn't deserve her which he does with people he really cares about.
The statement about reset did put me off too, considering the importance of that in the grand scheme of things. Her attitude definitely was resetted to clingy like in the beginning. I feel like we missed or didn't see a lot of her interactions with Himawari during that 24 hours, which is a lot, and the whole daisy hairpin thing, and I hope that we will explore that subject in next update, and that it wont be as... underwhelming as "Sekai is back" which resulted in her being back mostly in Sensei's head, flashbacks and two minor Kaori possessions.

 

[Angiboat]

So, what does everyone think about Ayane being possibly foreshadowed to betray Maya?

What I thought? I thought she'd deserve to get a factory reset or worse at first, but it's hard to keep hating her when she does good stuff like slapping Ami or putting Kirin in her place for blackmailing her. There likely won't be much coming out of that plot line, at best some dispute during one of the latter end of the worlds when they finally figure out that you get reset if you don't make it for the hug.

 

[DeSkel15]

I dunno what I'm supposed to spoiler so I'll just spoiler my question about chapter 2 and future plans.

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This is apparently the plans:

There is not. Pursuing all main characters except Ami is mandatory.

Regarding the endings (As I haven't touched on them in a while and there are a lot of new people now), the structure of this game is as follows:

Harem Route (You are here) | Dark Route | Purity Routes (Endings) | True End

The harem route will lead into the dark route no matter what. There will be no true harem ending.
The dark route will end with the option to pursue a purity route for any character in the game.
Purity routes will come out one at a time and add a load of new content for whichever girl you choose. The order these will come out in will likely be chosen at random.
Finishing one purity route will give you the option to start a new game directly from where you choose who to pursue so you won't have to play the game all over again just to get there.
The true end of the game will unlock only after all of the purity routes have been completed.

I don't think the "Dark route" has even started yet, and might be a Chapter 4+ thing.

Not to mention, this "Harem route" hasn't been a typical Harem route. I don't typically have so many crying girls at the verge of suicide in my Harem fantasies. I doubt the Dark or Purity routes will be what some may expect.

Overall: I wouldn't expect the game to completely change out of nowhere just yet. I also wouldn't expect the "Dark" route and "Purity" routes to be what some might think they will be.

"Perception" and all that jazz.

 

[crustlord12]

There's also the possibility that Current Ayane isn't quite the same Ayane we've known:

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That's what I was saying, and have been thinking this whole time. The hairpin might have been given to Ayane, but the attitude/confidence shift is just so sudden and abrupt that I can't help but think they swapped.

Spoiler: Normal theory

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Spoiler: Crackpot theory

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[DeSkel15]

That's what I was saying, and have been thinking this whole time. The hairpin might have been given to Ayane, but the attitude/confidence shift is just so sudden and abrupt that I can't help but think they swapped.

Spoiler: Normal theory

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Spoiler: Crackpot theory

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I kind of like that "Crackpot theory", because it somewhat fits with another theory of mine:

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Overall: No clue what's going on, but it seems neat. Might end up with Psycho Ami and Shapeshifting Ayane fucking shit up together as best friends, or vessels for supernatural entities. I dunno.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

My mind don't really register the pet name Aki-kun well; Sekai used it as short for Akira, but separately Aki itself in kanji can be (an almost unambiguous one as well) written as 秋, which means Fall/Autumn, a season apparently Kumon-mi is about to have due to the rising of the third god.


What if the third god is some kind of separated, sealed off mentality of Akira after the accident that represents the Aki-kun back then? The third god has always been lacking descriptions in physical forms compared to the first two, and has been more portrayed as an incarnation of mental ideas: voice inside your head, embodiment of perception (Paredolia), etc. So the question becomes if it's at all possible that this voice, perception, personality, or whatever you want to call it, originates from a very OG version of Akira whose mind hasn't been traumatized, broken, and wiped clean to a point that the original can be viewed as a different individual compared to all the other Sensei iterations.


Again this is a "_____?! Half-Life 3 confirmed!" level of speculation stemmed solely from my inner dweeb getting triggered by his pet name, as there are more pieces of the puzzle left unused (the one that boggles me the most is what another name the third god knows Yumi for is, and how), but I guess why not make the Aki-kun the third god when the other two individuals on the car have twistedly become the first two gods that day.
(this is on the assumed basis of orb of light = horny ball of light = his brother Nozomu, and tree with roots of wire = smashed Sekai; though the Sekai part remained to be verified)

 

[DeSkel15]

My mind don't really register the pet name Aki-kun well; Sekai used it as short for Akira, but separately Aki itself in kanji can be (an almost unambiguous one as well) written as 秋, which means Fall/Autumn, a season apparently Kumon-mi is about to have due to the rising of the third god.


What if the third god is some kind of separated, sealed off mentality of Akira after the accident that represents the Aki-kun back then? The third god has always been lacking descriptions in physical forms compared to the first two, and has been more portrayed as an incarnation of mental ideas: voice inside your head, embodiment of perception (Paredolia), etc. So the question becomes if it's at all possible that this voice, perception, personality, or whatever you want to call it, originates from a very OG version of Akira whose mind hasn't been traumatized, broken, and wiped clean to a point that the original can be viewed as a different individual compared to all the other Sensei iterations.


Again this is a "_____?! Half-Life 3 confirmed!" level of speculation stemmed solely from my inner dweeb getting triggered by his pet name, as there are more pieces of the puzzle left unused (the one that boggles me the most is what another name the third god knows Yumi for is, and how), but I guess why not make the Aki-kun the third god when the other two individuals on the car have twistedly become the first two gods that day.
(this is on the assumed basis of orb of light = horny ball of light = his brother Nozomu, and tree with roots of wire = smashed Sekai; though the Sekai part remained to be verified)

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I'm not sure if Pareidolia coming around means Autumn will, just yet. As far as we know, it's Spring that's coming:

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Why "spring" after "summer"? I dunno, but it's likely because it was apparently Christmas not that long ago and it'd actually be around "spring" if this world wasn't so fucked.

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[crustlord12]

I feel like we're reaching the Pepe Silvia Precipice here, but everything seems just believable enough for me still.

 

[BlackDays]

There's also the possibility that Current Ayane isn't quite the same Ayane we've known:

Maybe there are two kinds of resets.

The first being what we already got to see, where people forget about things. Setting them back into an oblivious state.
The second one might be where people get "reset" to their former true selfes (Which Himawari might have done to Ayane). Remembering who they are and what happened before Kumon'mi and during the cycles.

Maybe it's also not to be taken literally but just a figure of speech.
Her way of implying that she now knows about (almost) everything whats going on.
Which she probably does, giving her newfound confidence and espacially since she seems to know that Himawari is her daughter and Akira is Himawari's father.

 

[Bingoogus]

I dunno what I'm supposed to spoiler so I'll just spoiler my question about chapter 2 and future plans.

You don't really have to spoiler anything here, there's no enforcement and basically no expectation except maybe in the few hours after a new update gets leaked but again, it's more of a 'do what makes you comfortable' type thing. As for all the use of spoiler tags you see here, i'm not sure who started it exactly, i want to say DeSkel but i'm not confident enough to put money on it, but we just do that to keep the thread readable, no image spam, no huge walls of text that require many many scrolls to get past. Also, if you don't want to put a screencap or other image in a spoiler tag, use the inbuilt resizer feature (click the image) to shrink it down to fit in the middle third of the screen as a courtesy to everyone else.

 

[vihnyan]

you could add one ou two trap/femboy characters... not that im into that or anything its for the sake of inclusion you know, yeah totally!
T.T

 

[Raf-Raf]

Man, I love reading comments in this one.
It's like CoC2 reading comments except it's all smort stuff instead of the usual b-tching.

you could add one ou two trap/femboy characters... not that im into that or anything its for the sake of inclusion you know, yeah totally!
T.T

What's this? Other men in Kumon Mi aside from Sensei?
You wanna rename the place to Kumwith Mi?

 

[DeSkel15]

you could add one ou two trap/femboy characters... not that im into that or anything its for the sake of inclusion you know, yeah totally!
T.T

If I recall correctly, some used to think Sana was a trap. Then Io, and then Imani.

But nah, no traps here. Just jailbait:

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Honestly, I'd expect one of the girls to grow a dick at will, before I'd expect a trap or femboy to show up. Watch Ami whip out a dick bigger than Sensei's one day lmao.

 

[Kitty Hawk]

Honestly, I'd expect one of the girls to grow a dick at will, before I'd expect a trap or femboy to show up. Watch Ami whip out a dick bigger than Sensei's one day lmao.

If that happens, poor thing will probably lose consciousness due to a lack of blood in the "upper brain".
Wait... maybe KARIN is a trap? With a really huge organ, just tucked in somehow. That would explain her episodes and physical prowess...

 

[fdsasdf_p]

That's what I was saying, and have been thinking this whole time. The hairpin might have been given to Ayane, but the attitude/confidence shift is just so sudden and abrupt that I can't help but think they swapped.

Spoiler: Normal theory

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I am leaning more toward Himawari giving Ayane enough information (or whatever happened during that 24h-long MIA period) to help her persevere, and giving her the hairpin as a parting gift. This requires least amount of assumptions, and will also potentially turn the whole information flow into a causality paradox, something I am a big sucker for (not saying I'm correct because of it)


A few other things is that Himawari really doesn't like changing to Ayane; apparently she can still do it if forced without her existence being threatened, but I am not sure if this moment counts as necessary (it still might! as Ayane is really about to have a permeant mental breakdown if no one gave her a hand)

But let's say she did swap with Ayane, the follow up question is will it be temporary or permanent?

If the swap is just for Himawari to slap Ami without Ayane dealing with her own demon herself, then Ayane's returning to her former cheerful self in Danger to Society to me will be even more of a character shift.

If the swap continues until the end of beach event chains (i.e., the Ayane we see in Danger to Society is actually Himawari), then it's Himawari's turn to have misaligned characters when being physically close to Sensei, as she is not that kind of character.

(not to mention this means after slapping, she has to shapeshift back to herself to do her monologue in front of the camera by the end of Flowerchild, then shapeshift again to being Ayane; too busy LOL)

The same logic extends to if the swap is permeant. First the thought of being forever usurped by your shapeshifting daughter is absolutely horrifying. And she would quickly face situations where not that kind of character motto being severely challenged.

Edit: but whoever the girl is, good job on the bitch slap

Spoiler: slap er goooood

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Crackpot theory: The hairpin is magic and overwrites the the wearer's personality or something, I don't know.

Spoiler: It's dangerous to go alone! Take this!

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[DeSkel15]

If that happens, poor thing will probably lose consciousness due to a lack of blood in the "upper brain"

Maybe that's why they both black out at times?

Spoiler: Degenerates only

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Edit: If Karin had a cock, I'd think Kirin would have been all over that. Cucked by Karin?... holy shit, what a dark route.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

you could add one ou two trap/femboy characters... not that im into that or anything its for the sake of inclusion you know, yeah totally!
T.T

Since you are totally not into it, I have good news for you!
Look no further than

Spoiler: Makoto

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and

Spoiler: Uta

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^.^