Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.43.0] [Selebus]

[ContraBxss]

Here's translation for secret message written by shapeshifter girl
I couldn't find any here so I just did it for fun
The hexadecimal is under the decode if you want to try yourself

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(Note the "0a" in the lines are not in the image, I just put them there since it makes the message cleaner since "0a" is just "begin new line" in hexadecimal)


Also also if anyone is somehow able to read her phone??? I've zoomed in and tried reading but nothing makes sense. I'm assuming it's another code with letters so a cipher is needed. I don't remember which cipher Selebus uses so if anyone could help tyvm

 

[barglenarglezous]

That is a cool idea, but I wonder if it will go to the extent of every character being dead or dying and having to come to terms with that. Though imo the one character that cannot be dead or die in the end is Maya, my hypothesis is that the True Ending will be about her continuing to live in the real world and shutting down the wishing well (or at least the Kumon Mi program running in it).

If Kumon-mi is a purgatory, I don't think every single character is dead. I think some of the characters are specifically PART of it, they're there to test, tempt, or otherwise challenge those sentenced to it. Nodoka, in particular, feels like she'd be part of that world, rather than someone being subjected to it.

 

[saerav]

Akira almost certainly committed suicide at the beginning... but why? My personal theory is that Ami found out about Maya and Akira and freaked out, died, then Akira killed himself. Then Maya made a deal with God or god or dog and brought them back, but, of course, whenever those kinds of deals are made, it's never as nice as you hope for...

My theory is that it wasn't exactly suicide in the traditional terms; it was a bout of hallucinations during which Sensei just stepped off the roof believing he could fly.

 

[DeSkel15]

If Kumon-mi is a purgatory, I don't think every single character is dead. I think some of the characters are specifically PART of it, they're there to test, tempt, or otherwise challenge those sentenced to it. Nodoka, in particular, feels like she'd be part of that world, rather than someone being subjected to it.

I can definitely see this applying to Kirin. Ignoring how she was intended to be a side character originally, Yasu has more or less said she only exists when she needs to:

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I wouldn't be surprised if this applies to most characters.

I'm thinking "seeing shit" is the biggest hint at a character being "real", though.

 

[saerav]

ngl this should be the banner for this game

 

[Angra Shadow]

My personal theory at the moment, is that Sensei found out that Maya had been taking advantage of his memory to control him, and he winds up killing himself because of it once he remembers his past. Maya then prays at her shrine for any god to bring him back, and the god there answers. This is the result.

Tbh I don't know how I would feel if the story is going in the direction of "Maya abused/manipulated Sensei", my theory has always been that Sensei replicated the abuse and grooming he received from Sekai with Maya and when he eventually realized how much he damaged her life (and possibly some other things like stillbirth being involved) he decided to "undo it all".

Imo it would be very questionable if Sel portrayed a case of a man in his 20s having a relationship with a wizard age girl as anything but Sensei being the abuser.

 

[DalXD]

Pc compressed version v 0 -33?

 

[DeSkel15]

Tbh I don't know how I would feel if the story is going in the direction of "Maya abused/manipulated Sensei", my theory has always been that Sensei replicated the abuse and grooming he received from Sekai with Maya and when he eventually realized how much he damaged her life (and possibly some other things like stillbirth being involved) he decided to "undo it all".

Imo it would be very questionable if Sel portrayed a case of a man in his 20s having a relationship with a wizard age girl as anything but Sensei being the abuser.

This is a questionable game, and I think that ship has already sailed:

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Maya has always seemed like she was the one in control:

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and presumably is the one who started the relationship:

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Ironically, Sensei also seems like he was too pathetic at the time to even be an abuser:

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It's still fucked up, but the worst thing he seemed to do to Maya is not reject her, and maybe kill himself.

 

[worthlesspeon]

Imo it would be very questionable if Sel portrayed a case of a man in his 20s having a relationship with a wizard age girl as anything but Sensei being the abuser.

I mean this game has always been extremely questionable. Most of us would probably lose our jobs if it came to light that we play this. Sel himself has also demonstrated some very questionable views (outright stating he felt teenagers are better looking than adults etc).

The game has more or less outright stated that Maya is the one who initiated. Now obviously an adult should always reject a child. But Sensei being as broken as he is perhaps literally wasn't able to. It's a vaguely interesting concept where the child is the actual abuser, and certainly one you can't discuss even in a fictional context in civilized society.

 

[Mori Enjoyer]

I can't trigger Wither event. I can't call Kaori at night on a Saturday. I'm on day 689. I've done all happy events up to XIII "good boy", main event 'Glued to the sky', done all other missions.
The guide said that I need to do Rin event. I found that I missed "I died with you" bc I'm in badhomie route.
Could somebody help me.

Rin/Futaba Event during Saturday/weekend morning at the Koi Cafe
If you were a Bad Homie w/ Rin then the event "I Died With You" would've been replaced/crossed out. Good Homie best route :100:

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[Bingoogus]

I mean this game has always been extremely questionable. Most of us would probably lose our jobs if it came to light that we play this. Sel himself has also demonstrated some very questionable views (outright stating he felt teenagers are better looking than adults etc).

The game has more or less outright stated that Maya is the one who initiated. Now obviously an adult should always reject a child. But Sensei being as broken as he is perhaps literally wasn't able to. It's a vaguely interesting concept where the child is the actual abuser, and certainly one you can't discuss even in a fictional context in civilized society.

It's a tough subject, biologically we're primed to be attracted to girls around 15, for so many reasons, but i'd like to assume most of us here recognise a distinct separation between what our dicks tell us is right and what our brains say is right just as i'd like to assume we understand the difference between fiction and reality. I wouldn't enjoy any of this story if it were real, it's completely fucked up, which makes great fiction, but super gross reality. It's a pity though that the current societal gestalt can't tolerate this subject even in fiction but it is what it is and i like that i at least have this little hang out where the subject is actually discussable, in as far as staying on the topic of the game is concerned.

 

[akselx]

It's a tough subject, biologically we're primed to be attracted to girls around 15,

I don't know if that's accurate, unless use age as a proxy for other things, that are actuall points of attractions for males. Mainly secondary sex characteristics, smoother skin, "cute" facial proportions (that disappear as we age).

 

[Fantasy Catharsis]

I like coming here every now and then to catch glimpses of what people are discussing, and while I doubt I'll be investing time in this game again any time soon with how lengthy it is as of late I end up doing the next best thing to fill my interest by investing maybe 5 minutes to read theories. And let me tell you it hasn't been easy to wrap my head around any of them, doesn't help that my stopping point was when

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so I'm way out of the loop.

 

[DeSkel15]

It's a tough subject, biologically we're primed to be attracted to girls around 15, for so many reasons, but i'd like to assume most of us here recognise a distinct separation between what our dicks tell us is right and what our brains say is right just as i'd like to assume we understand the difference between fiction and reality. I wouldn't enjoy any of this story if it were real, it's completely fucked up, which makes great fiction, but super gross reality. It's a pity though that the current societal gestalt can't tolerate this subject even in fiction but it is what it is and i like that i at least have this little hang out where the subject is actually discussable, in as far as staying on the topic of the game is concerned.

I think it's safe to say the dick wants, what the dick wants:

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And we can leave it at that.

 

[Bingoogus]

I don't know if that's accurate, unless use age as a proxy for other things, that are actuall points of attractions for males. Mainly secondary sex characteristics, smoother skin, "cute" facial proportions (that disappear as we age).

Ah, yeah, i meant more like, from 15 and up, like the average age of attraction starts around 14-15 and ends up around 23-24, like, that's the meat of the bell curve, i've seen stats for it several times throughout the years and it fits our species like every others when factoring in the differing biological demands and other variables. I'm not going to go and google it now though

 

[akselx]

Ah, yeah, i meant more like, from 15 and up, like the average age of attraction starts around 14-15 and ends up around 23-24, like, that's the meat of the bell curve, i've seen stats for it several times throughout the years and it fits our species like every others when factoring in the differing biological demands and other variables. I'm not going to go and google it now though

What i'm saying is that age is mostly just a proxy for things males find highly desireble for fuck partners (not for actual sustainable relationship, mind you). It's not an age thing per se, but it maps on perfectly on high fertility age range.

 

[DeSkel15]

So, if Ayane and Tsuneyo were to fight, with no weapons allowed since Ayane has gun magic:

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and I'm not confident that Tsuneyo can deflect bullets with Gallows Edge, Who you got?

Both seem to be considered above Yumi, by themselves:

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and others:

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Tsuneyo has the size advantage, and Ayane has the skill and experience advantage, but I'm not entirely sure who is stronger, considering Ayane seems suspiciously strong:

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and Tsuneyo is Tsuneyo. They also might have supernatural plot armor going on, but good luck taking that into account.

 

[Bingoogus]

What i'm saying is that age is mostly just a proxy for things males find highly desireble for fuck partners (not for actual sustainable relationship, mind you). It's not an age thing per se, but it maps on perfectly on high fertility age range.

Yeah but... isn't that kind of splitting a single hair? The two aren't just correlated, they're intrinsically linked. We find the features of ideal fertility range attractive cause they're the features of ideal fertility age? Maybe i'm not understanding you, i used the numbers cause that was what was being discussed but i never meant it was all about the numbers, i'm not thinking 'damn, want me some 15 year old pussy' but instead it's my dick going 'that, mate with that'.

 

[akselx]

i'm not thinking 'damn, want me some 15 year old pussy' but instead it's my dick going 'that, mate with that'.

I know, but it is how its often being framed. I wasn't really arguing the point, just adding stuff i felt were important to note.

 

[derekthered56]

So, if Ayane and Tsuneyo were to fight, with no weapons allowed since Ayane has gun magic:

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and I'm not confident that Tsuneyo can deflect bullets with Gallows Edge, Who you got?

Both seem to be considered above Yumi, by themselves:

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and others:

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Tsuneyo has the size advantage, and Ayane has the skill and experience advantage, but I'm not entirely sure who is stronger, considering Ayane seems suspiciously strong:

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and Tsuneyo is Tsuneyo. They also might have supernatural plot armor going on, but good luck taking that into account.

Tsuneyo has a strike-first mentality to fighting, while Ayane seemed skittish at the idea of killing people even on Sensei's behalf during the truth or dare game. i doubt Tsuneyo could block bullets but the fight would be over before Ayane could pull out a hammerspace weapon.

I'm also curious why you would give the skill and experience edge to Ayane. She doesn't seem particularly good at karate, while I'm pretty sure Tsuneyo has actually won kendo tournaments.