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Here's something people can help me with conjuring up possibilities about the most recent reset.

From the past resets, the situations Sensei was in were more or less depicted as him trying his best to regain consciousness from extremely insane acid dreams. These strange conditions, presented themselves to Sensei and players in the form of puzzles, were likely products of the collapsing existence of Kumon-mi itself.

But this is not what we have during the 5th reset (or least in Untitled). What we see here is Sensei being kidnapped to attend some charade TV program while the world outside is ending. By game design, the ten-questions without a doubt is a reset puzzle. However, by how Sensei finds himself in the situation, it is technically not a reset puzzle. This time the puzzles can't even be summed up to interpretations of breaking oneself out of insanity due to the world ending; the process is hijacked by a certain party (assuming the certain party being team HOPE) that also deliberately sets obstacles under an unknown premise.

It's like if Long Maya didn't kidnap us, then we might actually need to answer some bullshit based on the coffee monologue LOL

We've seen the presence of Gods sprinkled here and there during the previous resets but never this main-focused and forceful. So the question naturally goes to what's their goal this time in particular?

We received our ultimatum at the beginning of the 5th reset regarding our lack of tribute to HOPE. So this may be deemed as some kind of direct intervention/punishment on HOPES's end to have things in its favor again. However, judging from how the whole TV show is structured, it is apparent that Long Maya intends to indefinitely trap Sensei within the time between sleepover to the TV show. Moreover, she might be up for hard resetting Sensei when Himawari bails on factchecking.
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So what is Long Maya trying to achieve here? It is perhaps understandable that she'd consider trapping Sensei indefinitely as a mean to break Sensei into submission, and thus he would walk on the designated path afterwards. So in their scheme is more like the only way out is to yield and submit to HOPE rather than getting all the answers correctly. Because as it turns out, nailing all questions is basically impossible when it comes to Ayane segment.

When Long Maya forces your daughter to shapeshift into Ayane and asks you a question that will break her causality, the message it delivers is that the final segment is purposefully scheduled this way so that at least one of the two followings is ensured: Sensei not surviving this reset or Himawari's existence got got if she actually factchecked her own name, or both.

But if the last question is a hard-scripted fail for Sensei and he is thus doomed for a hard reset regardless, how does this benefit team HOPE and why are we receiving a final warning and a fake deadline at the beginning of Untitled if you don't have a chance to make tribute? Is this just an intimidation tactic? Or is this like HOPE's alternative, to basically get rid off the current iteration that doesn't cooperate anymore? Maybe the assumption of being hard reset is incorrect? Or maybe our understanding to why reset puzzles exist is incorrect?


Some other things not related but still interesting upon revisiting the 5th reset:
- Previously Amiokay is portrayed as some kind of victim to HOPE or to some High Will, but this time I feel like she has succumbed to HOPE and joined its team :(
- It might just be your daughter doing Tsuneyo's character really well plus some overthinking on my end, but during Tsuneyo's segment it feels like Long Maya is trying to trick her into giving away information regarding Mr. Tojo in the meantime.
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Does anyone know what is the event where Chika says she repeated a year?
Or maybe I'm just imagining things
Chapter 1 'Saved by the Bell' main event:
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Chika's the oldest of the class and Rin's the youngest:
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Still ship it though:
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Yeah, pretty keen to see what happens with Uta too, everything is fully set up now for her to do stuff with Akira and i can't easily see a good reason for Selly delaying it any longer.
You underestimate the power of Contempt and Spite. He'll now rewrite any potential H scenes in this update specifically to deny us the Uta.
 
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Here's something people can help me with conjuring up possibilities about the most recent reset.
If we put the idea that the gods and the seasons they're associated with are only representations of Akira's state of mind and go with Gods having real agendas, I think HOPE has way more reasons than the others to want you stuck in loops and resets.
When Sensei gets factory wiped, he goes back to "step one", where he just indulges in his lust for the girls and doesn't care much for them, which is explicitly what HOPE wants (he even tells Yasu he'll only care about her when she has sex with Sensei in that one event where she's standing on her desk in her dorm room), he also has that weird obsession with Akira's cum, which is also a thing Moyo and Long Maya wanted during the first TV show. He's also trying to groom Rin hard so that's a thing as well.

The other thing he wants out of you is what the Wire God gave you (that something could be still unknown or just be sympathy, I think that's the emotion he's supposed to represent and it also coincides with the period of time where Sensei starts caring about some of the girls in the story), that something might be the only thing he'd want you not reset for. He shows up a few times during the apocalypse and every time he does, it feels like he's stalling you (if you don't make it in time, mind wipe after all), though he does tell you where Maya is during one occasion. His angels are also fucking with you more than once during apocalypses.

I don't think she wanted to kill sunflower girl, might have just been trying to take her down a peg, her questions seemed less like her prodding for information and felt more confrontational in nature.

By the way, I think the second TV show only became a thing because we tried to fuck with the rules by having the sleepover, so they changed the program? I like to think that the puzzles in general are a trial made to just filter out Sensei, and they're hard enough for him without help that only a ridiculously small amount of hims made it to the first winter (first puzzle), and none made it past it.

When's the last time Am I Okay even appears? She sorts of just disappears after first or second winter from what I remember and the last appearance I have in mind is her at the old school in front of the tree.
Her eventually giving up makes sense, not like she was in a strong state of mind to begin with especially when she gets plugged to a weird fuck machine.
 

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Here's something people can help me with conjuring up possibilities about the most recent reset.

From the past resets, the situations Sensei was in were more or less depicted as him trying his best to regain consciousness from extremely insane acid dreams. These strange conditions, presented themselves to Sensei and players in the form of puzzles, were likely products of the collapsing existence of Kumon-mi itself.

But this is not what we have during the 5th reset (or least in Untitled). What we see here is Sensei being kidnapped to attend some charade TV program while the world outside is ending. By game design, the ten-questions without a doubt is a reset puzzle. However, by how Sensei finds himself in the situation, it is technically not a reset puzzle. This time the puzzles can't even be summed up to interpretations of breaking oneself out of insanity due to the world ending; the process is hijacked by a certain party (assuming the certain party being team HOPE) that also deliberately sets obstacles under an unknown premise.

It's like if Long Maya didn't kidnap us, then we might actually need to answer some bullshit based on the coffee monologue LOL

We've seen the presence of Gods sprinkled here and there during the previous resets but never this main-focused and forceful. So the question naturally goes to what's their goal this time in particular?

We received our ultimatum at the beginning of the 5th reset regarding our lack of tribute to HOPE. So this may be deemed as some kind of direct intervention/punishment on HOPES's end to have things in its favor again. However, judging from how the whole TV show is structured, it is apparent that Long Maya intends to indefinitely trap Sensei within the time between sleepover to the TV show. Moreover, she might be up for hard resetting Sensei when Himawari bails on factchecking.
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So what is Long Maya trying to achieve here? It is perhaps understandable that she'd consider trapping Sensei indefinitely as a mean to break Sensei into submission, and thus he would walk on the designated path afterwards. So in their scheme is more like the only way out is to yield and submit to HOPE rather than getting all the answers correctly. Because as it turns out, nailing all questions is basically impossible when it comes to Ayane segment.

When Long Maya forces your daughter to shapeshift into Ayane and asks you a question that will break her causality, the message it delivers is that the final segment is purposefully scheduled this way so that at least one of the two followings is ensured: Sensei not surviving this reset or Himawari's existence got got if she actually factchecked her own name, or both.

But if the last question is a hard-scripted fail for Sensei and he is thus doomed for a hard reset regardless, how does this benefit team HOPE and why are we receiving a final warning and a fake deadline at the beginning of Untitled if you don't have a chance to make tribute? Is this just an intimidation tactic? Or is this like HOPE's alternative, to basically get rid off the current iteration that doesn't cooperate anymore? Maybe the assumption of being hard reset is incorrect? Or maybe our understanding to why reset puzzles exist is incorrect?


Some other things not related but still interesting upon revisiting the 5th reset:
- Previously Amiokay is portrayed as some kind of victim to HOPE or to some High Will, but this time I feel like she has succumbed to HOPE and joined its team :(
- It might just be your daughter doing Tsuneyo's character really well plus some overthinking on my end, but during Tsuneyo's segment it feels like Long Maya is trying to trick her into giving away information regarding Mr. Tojo in the meantime.
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I think the reset puzzles are actually a deranged way to help Sensei, or in other words "fix" him. Sensei has memory problems, so he's forced to repeat things until they stick, and the puzzles are merely a way to prove his memory is getting better, hence why they are usually things you're meant to remember or put together.

The Supernatural stuff even seems to want him to succeed:
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And Long Maya seems to believe Sensei can be fixed:
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Of course, Long Maya also implies that there are those who vote on whether Sensei can make it or not:
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So, I presume there are some that don't want Sensei to succeed.

Nao, for example, doesn't think he can be fixed:
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and doesn't seem to want him to do more than "dance":
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And there was something that seemed to attack the Untitled show after the Shapeshifter left. (This interference may have been what killed Yumi)

Of course whether Sensei surviving or not, is a good thing is up for debate. The gods actually seem to want Sensei to succeed though. HOPE itself has helped him to the roof during the first reset:
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and The Wire god/User2 helped him during the Second and Third resets, because Sensei seemed to ask it for help back during 'There is Nothing'.

The 4th reset is 'A Life of Prizes' and in that it depends on which god you chose during a survey. Callous, then The Lust Eater helps him get out. Calm, The Wire god does instead. Concerned, then The Dark gives Sensei a way to choose one of the others so that he can get out. It depends on the book you get:
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It's however been implied that the main goal of gods is for you to sacrifice others to it:
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So, this "Rooftop apocalypse squad" thing might just end up being a future meal. There's also the implication that being defiled is required to make it to the rooftop:
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Which could be why Yumi and Tsuneyo didn't make it. So, HOPE wanting Sensei to take something that doesn't belong to him, and well, fuck everything, could be it's way of getting others to the roof for later tributes.
 
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Dumb Question: Is there any explanation as to why every time Nikki appears in a poster or billboard she is staring directly at us?
 

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Quick question when the message " pareidolia would like to connect" appears, selecting no crashing the game. Is this a bug or a feature lol?
Feature, technically. There's multiple times where the game shuts down if you don't do what the game wants, or if you cheat at one point if I recall.

It's kind of a "free will is merely an illusion" thing:
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Quick question when the message " pareidolia would like to connect" appears, selecting no crashing the game. Is this a bug or a feature lol?
Feature, technically. There's multiple times where the game shuts down if you don't do what the game wants, or if you cheat at one point if I recall.
To be clear, it specifically calls a 'quit renpy' flag. So it's not a crash, it's a deliberate quit command.
 
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Feature, technically. There's multiple times where the game shuts down if you don't do what the game wants, or if you cheat at one point if I recall.

It's kind of a "free will is merely an illusion" thing:
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To be clear, it specifically calls a 'quit renpy' flag. So it's not a crash, it's a deliberate quit command.
Had a feeling it was intentional. Thanks
 
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Here's something people can help me with conjuring up possibilities about the most recent reset.

From the past resets, the situations Sensei was in were more or less depicted as him trying his best to regain consciousness from extremely insane acid dreams. These strange conditions, presented themselves to Sensei and players in the form of puzzles, were likely products of the collapsing existence of Kumon-mi itself.

But this is not what we have during the 5th reset (or least in Untitled). What we see here is Sensei being kidnapped to attend some charade TV program while the world outside is ending. By game design, the ten-questions without a doubt is a reset puzzle. However, by how Sensei finds himself in the situation, it is technically not a reset puzzle. This time the puzzles can't even be summed up to interpretations of breaking oneself out of insanity due to the world ending; the process is hijacked by a certain party (assuming the certain party being team HOPE) that also deliberately sets obstacles under an unknown premise.

It's like if Long Maya didn't kidnap us, then we might actually need to answer some bullshit based on the coffee monologue LOL

We've seen the presence of Gods sprinkled here and there during the previous resets but never this main-focused and forceful. So the question naturally goes to what's their goal this time in particular?

We received our ultimatum at the beginning of the 5th reset regarding our lack of tribute to HOPE. So this may be deemed as some kind of direct intervention/punishment on HOPES's end to have things in its favor again. However, judging from how the whole TV show is structured, it is apparent that Long Maya intends to indefinitely trap Sensei within the time between sleepover to the TV show. Moreover, she might be up for hard resetting Sensei when Himawari bails on factchecking.
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So what is Long Maya trying to achieve here? It is perhaps understandable that she'd consider trapping Sensei indefinitely as a mean to break Sensei into submission, and thus he would walk on the designated path afterwards. So in their scheme is more like the only way out is to yield and submit to HOPE rather than getting all the answers correctly. Because as it turns out, nailing all questions is basically impossible when it comes to Ayane segment.

When Long Maya forces your daughter to shapeshift into Ayane and asks you a question that will break her causality, the message it delivers is that the final segment is purposefully scheduled this way so that at least one of the two followings is ensured: Sensei not surviving this reset or Himawari's existence got got if she actually factchecked her own name, or both.

But if the last question is a hard-scripted fail for Sensei and he is thus doomed for a hard reset regardless, how does this benefit team HOPE and why are we receiving a final warning and a fake deadline at the beginning of Untitled if you don't have a chance to make tribute? Is this just an intimidation tactic? Or is this like HOPE's alternative, to basically get rid off the current iteration that doesn't cooperate anymore? Maybe the assumption of being hard reset is incorrect? Or maybe our understanding to why reset puzzles exist is incorrect?


Some other things not related but still interesting upon revisiting the 5th reset:
- Previously Amiokay is portrayed as some kind of victim to HOPE or to some High Will, but this time I feel like she has succumbed to HOPE and joined its team :(
- It might just be your daughter doing Tsuneyo's character really well plus some overthinking on my end, but during Tsuneyo's segment it feels like Long Maya is trying to trick her into giving away information regarding Mr. Tojo in the meantime.
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Btw, meant to mention that Long Maya seems to refer to these reset puzzles as trials and interviews:
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So, I'm thinking the only thing different about the 5th reset was that it was intended to be easier for some reason.

If I had to guess why, then it might be because there were around 5 characters involved this time. Long Maya mentioned that the girls (likely Maya, Ayane, Yumi, and Tsuneyo) were going through their own trials (reset puzzles):
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Of course, there might also be Sara etc going through this stuff as well. Maybe even Yasu? Albeit she seems to have her own special room to survive:
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If I had to guess why, then it might be because there were around 5 characters involved this time. Long Maya mentioned that the girls (likely Maya, Ayane, Yumi, and Tsuneyo) were going through their own trials (reset puzzles):Of course, there might also be Sara etc going through this stuff as well. Maybe even Yasu? Albeit she seems to have her own special room to survive:
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"White room" could be a reference to a padded cell, or possibly the room with the clocks.

Granted, the room with the clocks might be a padded cell in the first place.

Now that I think of it, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest inspired the Phil Collins hit "Take Me Home," about a man who's been in a mental hospital so long he's forgotten life outside the facility. Infinite time, so to speak, which could be symbolized in the form of all these clocks in a padded cell. You also get the bird theme in the novel's title, and Rin's hearing of clocks ticking pair with her own mental illness.

Huh. This all clicked into place and I'm tired enough that I'll probably forget it come morning, but this all fits in a way.
 

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Is there a way to remove the cheater tag from my save? Apparently I have it but I really don’t remember ever cheating. I’ve used the cheats once to test them but then I rolled back right away bc I didn’t want to have it on my save, but I just finished the 5th reset and my affection stats are all 0 and I want to do it again with no cheater tag.
 
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"White room" could be a reference to a padded cell, or possibly the room with the clocks.

Granted, the room with the clocks might be a padded cell in the first place.

Now that I think of it, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest inspired the Phil Collins hit "Take Me Home," about a man who's been in a mental hospital so long he's forgotten life outside the facility. Infinite time, so to speak, which could be symbolized in the form of all these clocks in a padded cell. You also get the bird theme in the novel's title, and Rin's hearing of clocks ticking pair with her own mental illness.

Huh. This all clicked into place and I'm tired enough that I'll probably forget it come morning, but this all fits in a way.
The "white room" is actually mentioned by Amy as well:
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It's how Sensei apparently escaped the Pareidolia Mall in the 'Amy' Happy Event. By going through the hole in the white room.

Whether these are the same white rooms though, I'm not sure.
 

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Is there a way to remove the cheater tag from my save? Apparently I have it but I really don’t remember ever cheating. I’ve used the cheats once to test them but then I rolled back right away bc I didn’t want to have it on my save, but I just finished the 5th reset and my affection stats are all 0 and I want to do it again with no cheater tag.
Use URM or any other mean necessary to edit your save, changing the flag cheater to false, and additionally editing all the stats back.
 
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Is there a way to remove the cheater tag from my save? Apparently I have it but I really don’t remember ever cheating. I’ve used the cheats once to test them but then I rolled back right away bc I didn’t want to have it on my save, but I just finished the 5th reset and my affection stats are all 0 and I want to do it again with no cheater tag.
Use URM or any other mean necessary to edit your save, changing the flag cheater to false, and additionally editing all the stats back.
Yeah, use the URM, click the image in my signature.
 
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I downloaded URM and found how to change the "Cheater" to false, but it won't stay. I can change it to false, save the game, load that save up, and it will say true again. Am I doing something wrong?
 
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