I dunno man, I think there's a pretty big difference between even Sana and the shit that's been in those packages.
I don't know what imaginary or arbitrary metrics you're using to "prove" it, but to me, the current impact is that at least 40% of his current subs came from here, and didn't then leave once the content became available.
Well yeah, that's a mighty possibility unfortunately.
Hmm, maybe. There is a difference, sure...I'm just not sure how big it really is.
Well the way i see it is if tomorrow this thread is deleted and LiL is banned from F95 then Selebus will hardly lose anything. The new people that discover the game today on F95 have little incentive to actually subscribe considering they get (almost) everything at the same time as the subs. Also Sel is already earning more than enough to work on the game full time so that's not a reason to sub either. The bad blood between F95 and Sel may also deter some people.
I don't want to tell the mods what to do, so if they are watching, I hope they don't take this the wrong way, but I do believe at least a ban as a user is warranted in this case if not a ban of the game itself going off of the actions taken against the last developer to antagonize the site in some way. Of course, doing so would actually be playing right into his hands this time since he basically wants it gone from any piracy source, unlike the aforementioned other incident.
Welcome back Alex, your absence has been quite noticeable these last few months.
U mean the leaker? I don't think it's one person. This situation isn't exactly unique to this thread, there are plenty of pretty big games that routinely get leaked within a day. It's too many people to ban and it seems like most developers recognize this. There're at least two devs that liked mods post about situation, they pay attention. I don't see what realistically can be done about this situation other than asking people that leak into this thread to leak them...a bit later.
U two are talking about differend kind of "CP's", lol.
Took a break from the entire site, I just wish this wasn't what I came back to.
No, I am referring to the antics pulled against the thread itself, Selebus incited patrons to descend on the thread to mass report the game's care packages for rule 7 and even offered a discount on merch (the comments in question are undeniably not patron only content, it affects non-patrons directly. The mod called redknight was screencapped saying not to do this and the capture was posted with the offer of a severe discount on merch). Caught him red handed on this one, there is no denying who was involved. The last time I saw something where the developer was inciting antagonizing the site, the developer got his user account banned and all official links were removed, though he was also caught manipulating reviews in that case. That case is why I was thinking a user ban might be warranted here, but the mods would know better.
Hm. Are u...perhaps...working on the game yourself?
Gotcha, I misunderstood you.
I am not, it was mainly a health break plus I got real busy near the end of the year IRL.
i mean summertime saga is its own thing that required actual artists and animations and actual coding compared to a game made with premade assets, MS paint, and images taken from google with the watermarks taken off.
Yeah, that's more or less what I was trying to say. On the raw production value SS probably deserves at least a part of it's earnings (and I don't mean to downplay Sel's dedication and talent), but I still don't like a lot in it (from primitive plot and characters to absolutely generic porn section imo). Likewise, a man have every right not to like LiL with it's pretentiousness and "philosophy" and I can somewhat understand him. Tastes differ, and I don't want to sound like some kind of elitist, but as I see it, the majority of people would prefer Summertime Saga type of content, rather than LiL, because well... majority. So if it's not a joke about this goal, than I don't understand what (and how) Selebus hopes to achieve, because all this ruckus is definetely about money.
oh dang... this has been such a shit show we summoned a game dev for the superior parody version of LiL
Sadly I don't think this thread will ever go back to what it used to be, the Lil discord community has too much vitriol against this place now and despite what the mods here have claimed through their "mature" posts it's clear they get their kicks out of seeing Sel get mad, heck you even have members like Bingoogus whom by their own admission get their kicks out of this drama that always unfolds and despite what Bingoo has said before it's clear they're lurking within the discord, some that overly obessed with this drama wouldn't wanna miss out on anything but moving on, there's going to be no winners here, the mods are never going to shut down this thread permantely despite the mass rule 7 reports (Which I knew would be a fruitless endeavour) because LiL drama is too much of a goldmine, likewise Sel is never going to stop hating this place for leaking his content and taking away potential subscribers from him which in turn leads to him making meta complaints about this place through his characters which.... I dislike, perhaps it wouldn't have gotten this bad if the care packages didn't start getting leaked but I don't think "What IF" possiblities are worth discussing at this point either way regardless of whether or not Sel actually finishes this game or Sel just cancels it I think this place won't have the same passionate discussion it used to and considering some of the people here, maybe that's for the best.
I wouldn't call it a parody, it uses the same basic formula for 'isekai-into-a-sensei' that LiL uses and there are similar plot devices used for both games but calling it a parody is going way too far, are all FPS games parodies of Doom?oh dang... this has been such a shit show we summoned a game dev for the superior parody version of LiL
ehh i use parody because of the obvious ref, jokes and almost every other update it basically makes a callback to LiL
God damnit... i had 'cum-on-me' revealed to me in this thread and sunk my head in shame for not picking up on it myself, now you go and reveal i've had the exact same thing staring me in the face in SO and AGAIN i missed it...
I feel like if I told you the capital of Thailand is Bangkok your response would be
