ElukiaTV

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Touka's mother is gonna be using that room waaaay before Touka herself does... mark my words.
Also, she did said they bought the entire building, not just the apartment, for her "management skills". So that's her excuse.
Also, since she now owns multiple apartments in that building, i wonder if other people, like Yumi/Yuki or Chika will be moving there at some point.
 

dantarium

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do we can does a thing with her in later chapter outside from our delusions?
the real Maya not the Hope Slave one? pra̶i̶s̶e̶ ̶b̶e̶
i will try to answer your question

If you want to know whether there is/ will be content with Maya, then yes. Every girl is garanteed a few scenes provided you have the points and made the correct choices. Right now, we are getting a scene with her

As far as the general concensuss goes, Maya is not a slave to any of the Gods. Maybe that can change in future update, but for now, she is not
 

ganesha2407

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i will try to answer your question

If you want to know whether there is/ will be content with Maya, then yes. Every girl is garanteed a few scenes provided you have the points and made the correct choices. Right now, we are getting a scene with her

As far as the general concensuss goes, Maya is not a slave to any of the Gods. Maybe that can change in future update, but for now, she is not
so it's safe to say that there is no lewd content for Maya outside Maya in Happy events for now,yes?
thanks for your answer!
now i can play the game in slow phase than before.
 
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k1n5l4y3r

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so it's safe to say that there is no lewd content for Maya outside Maya in Happy events for now,yes?
thanks for your answer!
now i can play the game in slow phase than before.
No lewd with Maya yet, only with Moyo and Long Maya on a Happy Event.
 

ganesha2407

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As far as the general concensuss goes, Maya is not a slave to any of the Gods. Maybe that can change in future update, but for now, she is not
yeah about this
i talk about the Maya. one,not the real Maya.
i don't know how to call the Maya. that brutally seggs with machine in happy events.
so i just go with Gods. Hope slave.

No lewd with Maya yet, only with Moyo and Long Maya on a Happy Event.
figured about that,thanks for the answer
and while im still new at this,how often this game update?
did we get our update soon enough?
 

fooliscious

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So I've binged all of this game in under a week or so, so I've picked up everything in a single stream instead of via monthly updates. Disregarding the blatant escape/power fantasy nonsense which I get is part of the point, I've really enjoyed the characters, the mystery, and the general story telling. However outside of a few notable exceptions (I've re-read most of Rin's events so many times, Maya's too, and Niki is queen) the third chapter has had a large change in character consistency and voice that is really starting to bug me.

I'll start with voice. In the literal sense, starting at chapter 3 most of the characters are starting to sound the same. Damn near every character has said "I'm not not something something blah blah" recently. There are some text tricks in dialogue boxes to make it seem different, but most of the characters are saying the same things in the same way.

A notable exception to the above that leads to my next point in regards to character consistency is Chika. Her character has completely new aspects to her all of a sudden (weirdly violent, a lot more crass). She was a creampuff before, and now it feels like she's being shoved into a sassy inner city latino girl archetype. It's like the author stated she's Philipino, now we need to cram her into stereotypes. Touka too. I don't get the reasoning or idea behind her Christmas present at all. Touka has rapidly become one of my favorite characters in this, and she went from naïve bumbling but super kind to all knowing mommy in like...no events. There was no progression to the point she is at at the end of this update. "You are not going to hide from your emotions in me". She has had very little social experience and she is spitting lines like this? And she buys an entire apartment building and doesn't consider Chika's situation at all?

On another note, I really don't understand why this needs to be set in a first year high school setting. I had the same problem with Persona 5 where all of these huge complicated issues are looming above, and teenagers neither have the emotional maturity or experience to deal with any of this in a reasonable manner. Imagine if Rin were like 19, and how much more sense her character makes. Makoto too, daddy issues don't end at 14. Maya is an exception, but you can't really call her 14, who knows how old she actually is at this point, but she also acts like it. Noriko is the biggest stand out to me. How do you expect a teenager to be as accomplished, well thought out, emotionally in control, for absolutely anything she is saying.

Set it in college age, it doesn't lose anything and becomes much more believable. Sensei is still a shitheel for banging his students and most of the consequences of people finding out are the same. If there is a child abuse component to the story, then write the teenagers like teenagers and not mostly well adjusted adults with some trauma triggers.

I'm only nitpicking this stuff because I am truly enjoying the story being told here. I haven't appreciated a character as much as I have Rin in a good bit because she feels so real(screw otoha for real though and Rin's inability to get over her bullshit and move on). Maya is being written incredibly well given what her back story is as well. Sensei is being conveyed as a generally decent but profoundly broken person in a very believable (albeit horrible) way appropriate to the genre. The overarching question of who is running this simulation has me guessing constantly about who is in charge of it, who is controlling it, who is it benefitting, who is real, etc. constantly. There is just enough hints and clues dropped here and there to make it seem there is a coherent plot, which I hope turns out to be true.
 

KnowNoHope

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So I've binged all of this game in under a week or so, so I've picked up everything in a single stream instead of via monthly updates. Disregarding the blatant escape/power fantasy nonsense which I get is part of the point, I've really enjoyed the characters, the mystery, and the general story telling. However outside of a few notable exceptions (I've re-read most of Rin's events so many times, Maya's too, and Niki is queen) the third chapter has had a large change in character consistency and voice that is really starting to bug me.

I'll start with voice. In the literal sense, starting at chapter 3 most of the characters are starting to sound the same. Damn near every character has said "I'm not not something something blah blah" recently. There are some text tricks in dialogue boxes to make it seem different, but most of the characters are saying the same things in the same way.

A notable exception to the above that leads to my next point in regards to character consistency is Chika. Her character has completely new aspects to her all of a sudden (weirdly violent, a lot more crass). She was a creampuff before, and now it feels like she's being shoved into a sassy inner city latino girl archetype. It's like the author stated she's Philipino, now we need to cram her into stereotypes. Touka too. I don't get the reasoning or idea behind her Christmas present at all. Touka has rapidly become one of my favorite characters in this, and she went from naïve bumbling but super kind to all knowing mommy in like...no events. There was no progression to the point she is at at the end of this update. "You are not going to hide from your emotions in me". She has had very little social experience and she is spitting lines like this? And she buys an entire apartment building and doesn't consider Chika's situation at all?

On another note, I really don't understand why this needs to be set in a first year high school setting. I had the same problem with Persona 5 where all of these huge complicated issues are looming above, and teenagers neither have the emotional maturity or experience to deal with any of this in a reasonable manner. Imagine if Rin were like 19, and how much more sense her character makes. Makoto too, daddy issues don't end at 14. Maya is an exception, but you can't really call her 14, who knows how old she actually is at this point, but she also acts like it. Noriko is the biggest stand out to me. How do you expect a teenager to be as accomplished, well thought out, emotionally in control, for absolutely anything she is saying.

Set it in college age, it doesn't lose anything and becomes much more believable. Sensei is still a shitheel for banging his students and most of the consequences of people finding out are the same. If there is a child abuse component to the story, then write the teenagers like teenagers and not mostly well adjusted adults with some trauma triggers.

I'm only nitpicking this stuff because I am truly enjoying the story being told here. I haven't appreciated a character as much as I have Rin in a good bit because she feels so real(screw otoha for real though and Rin's inability to get over her bullshit and move on). Maya is being written incredibly well given what her back story is as well. Sensei is being conveyed as a generally decent but profoundly broken person in a very believable (albeit horrible) way appropriate to the genre. The overarching question of who is running this simulation has me guessing constantly about who is in charge of it, who is controlling it, who is it benefitting, who is real, etc. constantly. There is just enough hints and clues dropped here and there to make it seem there is a coherent plot, which I hope turns out to be true.
i straight up agree in the characters seem different with no explanation given in chapter 3... yet
but the characters also seemed different chapter 2
in fact every reset or major world shift... the characters seem a little off from what they were before it
the changes seems rather small yet inconsistent with who they were before it each time.

I've extended a benefit of the doubt and assume it is a narrative element that is hinted at but not revealed yet
money on: there are no resets or time skips. just memory alterations
how much of a persons memories can you alter before they become a different person. ex: sensei

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actually, heavily implied daisy and others are straight up altering the girls at this point so we do have an implied explanation
 
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LooLoo Baloo

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It's just a disadvantage of there being only one person behind the dialogue of the entire cast. A lot of the characters share sayings that hardly anyone ever says. Especially young teenagers never say. There was an update where different characters kept saying 'I'm going out on a limb here' in separate events and it was kinda weird. And now I still find it weird whenever I see it again tbh (Which is too often). But that's just one example of it.

But I get it. I think anyone would struggle to make 30+ characters sound different to each other 100% of the time. But the cast is definitely big enough now, anymore of them and I think each girl would slowly lose all of their uniqueness.
 
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AgumenticR

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but yeah her reasoning for why was atrocious
it amounted to
"i see into your soul sensei and know you need this to escape all the girls you have sex with"
Not seeing the atrocity, tbh. That was simply Touka being affectionate, and, playing with her trope, being way over the top materially while getting the feelings right. Sensei does, in fact, feel conflicted right now for various reasons and could use a retreat.
and she went from naïve bumbling but super kind to all knowing mommy in like...no events.
Huh? Even ignoring all the parenting/older sistering she does for Yasu, you could see the shades of this Touka all the way back in Something Less Lonely. She was the same in the previous update as well. In fact, the juxtaposition between the usual "hime-sama with no knowledge of the normal world" antics of her general character type and Touka actually being fairly wise and understanding is what makes her one of my favourites.
 

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I'll start with voice. In the literal sense, starting at chapter 3 most of the characters are starting to sound the same. Damn near every character has said "I'm not not something something blah blah" recently. There are some text tricks in dialogue boxes to make it seem different, but most of the characters are saying the same things in the same way.

A notable exception to the above that leads to my next point in regards to character consistency is Chika. Her character has completely new aspects to her all of a sudden (weirdly violent, a lot more crass). She was a creampuff before, and now it feels like she's being shoved into a sassy inner city latino girl archetype. It's like the author stated she's Philipino, now we need to cram her into stereotypes. Touka too. I don't get the reasoning or idea behind her Christmas present at all. Touka has rapidly become one of my favorite characters in this, and she went from naïve bumbling but super kind to all knowing mommy in like...no events. There was no progression to the point she is at at the end of this update. "You are not going to hide from your emotions in me". She has had very little social experience and she is spitting lines like this? And she buys an entire apartment building and doesn't consider Chika's situation at all?
Completely agree with you on Chika and Touka's characters; I would assume that these personalities are somewhat sensible and more or less already there from the beginning (as in, not something developed throughout the journey) but are never too emphasized.

Chika could have this spicy and fierce side of her considering her upbringing, and the pent up stress from dealing with Otoha and Yumi's situations, but this can definitely be better articulated (Either that, or her past events mostly only rotated around people she loves, thus having the idea of her always being a creampuff)

For Touka, her all knowing mommy side is also fine for the same reason and I think it's within her already, but the segue seems to limit to only her Yasu sidekick appearance in most main events and the one line saying "spending too much time with Yasu" (again, could've done better). But I do think she is well equipped with saying "You are not going to hide from your emotions in me" though because she's mature and observing. She is naive, sheltered, and doesn't know much about the commoner world, but she doesn't have to be blunt toward feelings of a person she for whatever reason takes liking to.

In fact, I think what requires more detailing is instead when she said "But in the meantime, allow me to please you" (like holy shit GIRL you really were under some bad influence). What would be nice is to have more events hinting why she decides to join the love warfare now, as her own events mostly just described her kindness and naiveness; a tiny tease at the end of Something Less Lonely to me isn't quite enough. (or I simply just want more Touka)

Btw you're right, she should've bought the building for Chika now I thought of it LOL
 
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Completely agree with you on Chika and Touka's characters; I would assume that these personalities are somewhat sensible and more or less already there from the beginning (as in, not something developed throughout the journey) but are never too emphasized.

Chika could have this spicy and fierce side of her considering her upbringing, and the pent up stress from dealing with Otoha and Yumi's situations, but this can definitely be better articulated (Either that, or her past events mostly only rotated around people she loves, thus having the idea of her always being a creampuff)

For Touka, her all knowing mommy side is also fine for the same reason and I think it's within her already, but the segue seems to limit to only her Yasu sidekick appearance in most main events and the one line saying "spending too much time with Yasu" (again, could've done better). But I do think she is well equipped with saying "You are not going to hide from your emotions in me" though because she's mature and observing. She is naive, sheltered, and doesn't know much about the commoner world, but she doesn't have to be blunt toward feelings of a person she for whatever reason takes liking to.

In fact, I think what requires more detailing is instead when she said "But in the meantime, allow me to please you" (like holy shit GIRL you really were under some bad influence). What would be nice is to have more events hinting why she decides to join the love warfare now, as her own events mostly just described her kindness and naiveness; a tiny tease at the end of Something Less Lonely to me isn't quite enough. (or I simply just want more Touka)

Btw you're right, she should've bought the building for Chika now I thought of it LOL
Chika's situation is bad, but Imani's is arguably worse (Chika's place at least doesn't flood)

I don't think she's met Rika yet, but Rika's literally homeless.

She could use the other units in that building to dramatically improve several lives.

As for why Touka's throwing her immaculate hat in the ring now -- I would have a guess.

Ayane and Touka both live under the specter of how family owned businesses operate in Japan. To keep the business in the family and run by a man, if there are no sons to pass the company to, the daughter is married off, her husband is adopted as a son, and the company handed to him when the time comes to pass the torch.

Touka might be trying to cherry-pick a husband because she's playing roulette if she lets her father make the decision. And while she's keenly aware of his faults -- he's actually treated her quite well, aside from the running joke about her name. Moving Sensei closer to the part of town where the absurdly wealthy live also suits this purpose, as it make him look more respectable.

I can't imagine she's discussed this plan with Tsubasa, though, because I think her mother would have some THOUGHTS.
 
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I have a problem with There is Nothing, when I trigger the event and follow the guide but neither of them seem to work, it give me the same fucking answer every time: TERMINAL NOT FOUND, wtf its going on?
 
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