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akselx

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I don't want to tell the mods what to do, so if they are watching, I hope they don't take this the wrong way, but I do believe at least a ban as a user is warranted in this case if not a ban of the game itself going off of the actions taken against the last developer to antagonize the site in some way.
U mean the leaker? I don't think it's one person. This situation isn't exactly unique to this thread, there are plenty of pretty big games that routinely get leaked within a day. It's too many people to ban and it seems like most developers recognize this. There're at least two devs that liked mods post about situation, they pay attention. I don't see what realistically can be done about this situation other than asking people that leak into this thread to leak them...a bit later.
 

akselx

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I don't know about the CP bringing a new public...I mean have you seen Ami, Sana or Miku ? Sure they're high schoolers but, you know. Pretty sure that public was already there. The loli tag was always there as far as i know. Also a lot of the people that are playing LiL are not doing so for the lewds and stuff but for the story. If one just wants to jerk off there are many many games that are better suited than LiL.
I dunno man, I think there's a pretty big difference between even Sana and the shit that's been in those packages.
U two are talking about differend kind of "CP's", lol.
 
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alex2011

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Welcome back Alex, your absence has been quite noticeable these last few months.
Took a break from the entire site, I just wish this wasn't what I came back to.

U mean the leaker? I don't think it's one person. This situation isn't exactly unique to this thread, there are plenty of pretty big games that routinely get leaked within a day. It's too many people to ban and it seems like most developers recognize this. There're at least two devs that liked mods post about situation, they pay attention. I don't see what realistically can be done about this situation other than asking people that leak into this thread to leak them...a bit later.
No, I am referring to the antics pulled against the thread itself, Selebus incited patrons to descend on the thread to mass report the game's care packages for rule 7 and even offered a discount on merch (the comments in question are undeniably not patron only content, it affects non-patrons directly. The mod called redknight was screencapped saying not to do this and the capture was posted with the offer of a severe discount on merch). Caught him red handed on this one, there is no denying who was involved. The last time I saw something where the developer was inciting antagonizing the site, the developer got his user account banned and all official links were removed, though he was also caught manipulating reviews in that case. That case is why I was thinking a user ban might be warranted here, but the mods would know better.
 
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akselx

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Took a break from the entire site, I just wish this wasn't what I came back to.
Hm. Are u...perhaps...working on the game yourself?
No, I am referring to the antics pulled against the thread itself, he incited patrons to descend on the thread to mass report the game's care packages for rule 7 and even offered a discount on merch (the comments in question are undeniably not patron only content, it affects non-patrons directly. The mod called redknight was screencapped saying not to do this and the capture was posted with the offer of a severe discount on merch). Caught him red handed on this one, there is no denying who was involved. The last time I saw something where the developer was inciting antagonizing the site, the developer got his user account banned and all official links were removed, though he was also caught manipulating reviews in that case. That case is why I was thinking a ban might be warranted here, but the mods would know better.
Gotcha, I misunderstood you.
 
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KnowNoHope

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Well yeah, that's a mighty possibility unfortunately.

On a side note, I honestly do believe that LiL deserves these 63k more than Summertime Saga, because I played it a few years ago and it's really... mediocre at best. But is it really worth it to go there? Because these are quite different games in a whole lot of aspects, and I think the audience limit that LiL can cater to is not that big to begin with.
i mean summertime saga is its own thing that required actual artists and animations and actual coding compared to a game made with premade assets, MS paint, and images taken from google with the watermarks taken off.
not saying selebus deserves less money than summertime saga ... but it makes sense why he makes less and is borderline insane to think it could compete to that level, especially with the drama orientated spectacle selebus prone to starting
I will admit i dont know much about the work that goes into either project... but one looks like it takes a lot more effort and manpower than the other
 
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JohnnyRazer

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i mean summertime saga is its own thing that required actual artists and animations and actual coding compared to a game made with premade assets, MS paint, and images taken from google with the watermarks taken off.
not saying selebus deserves less money than summertime saga ... but it makes sense why he makes less and is borderline insane to think it could compete to that level, especially with the drama orientated spectacle selebsus prone to starting
Yeah, that's more or less what I was trying to say. On the raw production value SS probably deserves at least a part of it's earnings (and I don't mean to downplay Sel's dedication and talent), but I still don't like a lot in it (from primitive plot and characters to absolutely generic porn section imo). Likewise, a man have every right not to like LiL with it's pretentiousness and "philosophy" and I can somewhat understand him. Tastes differ, and I don't want to sound like some kind of elitist, but as I see it, the majority of people would prefer Summertime Saga type of content, rather than LiL, because well... majority. So if it's not a joke about this goal, than I don't understand what (and how) Selebus hopes to achieve, because all this ruckus is definetely about money.
 
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JohnnyRazer

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Not sure if the mods deleted the messages, but guess we got too passionate, apologies. Probably there's not much point in this dispute other than having some fun, since everyone will stand by their opinions. :coffee:
 
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KnowNoHope

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This has been a rollercoaster... I want this thread to go back to talking about cute girls and puzzles :[
oh dang... this has been such a shit show we summoned a game dev for the superior parody version of LiL
:ROFLMAO:
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its like picking up a box of hydrox only to find superior oreo's inside
 
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ComplexOne2

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This has been a rollercoaster... I want this thread to go back to talking about cute girls and puzzles :[
Sadly I don't think this thread will ever go back to what it used to be, the Lil discord community has too much vitriol against this place now and despite what the mods here have claimed through their "mature" posts it's clear they get their kicks out of seeing Sel get mad, heck you even have members like Bingoogus whom by their own admission get their kicks out of this drama that always unfolds and despite what Bingoo has said before it's clear they're lurking within the discord, some that overly obessed with this drama wouldn't wanna miss out on anything but moving on, there's going to be no winners here, the mods are never going to shut down this thread permantely despite the mass rule 7 reports (Which I knew would be a fruitless endeavour) because LiL drama is too much of a goldmine, likewise Sel is never going to stop hating this place for leaking his content and taking away potential subscribers from him which in turn leads to him making meta complaints about this place through his characters which.... I dislike, perhaps it wouldn't have gotten this bad if the care packages didn't start getting leaked but I don't think "What IF" possiblities are worth discussing at this point either way regardless of whether or not Sel actually finishes this game or Sel just cancels it I think this place won't have the same passionate discussion it used to and considering some of the people here, maybe that's for the best.
 

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oh dang... this has been such a shit show we summoned a game dev for the superior parody version of LiL
:ROFLMAO:
I wouldn't call it a parody, it uses the same basic formula for 'isekai-into-a-sensei' that LiL uses and there are similar plot devices used for both games but calling it a parody is going way too far, are all FPS games parodies of Doom?
 

KnowNoHope

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I wouldn't call it a parody, it uses the same basic formula for 'isekai-into-a-sensei' that LiL uses and there are similar plot devices used for both games but calling it a parody is going way too far, are all FPS games parodies of Doom?
ehh i use parody because of the obvious ref, jokes and almost every other update it basically makes a callback to LiL
I mean the city's name is Jizz on you
i also couldnt think of a better word than parody that wasn't insulting as I found parody to mostly be a positive word

edit: other words i could have used after a google search...
pasquinade
burlesque
lampoon
 
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Bingoogus

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ehh i use parody because of the obvious ref, jokes and almost every other update it basically makes a callback to LiL
I mean the city's name is Jizz on you
i also couldnt think of a better word than parody that wasn't insulting as I found parody to mostly be a positive word
God damnit... i had 'cum-on-me' revealed to me in this thread and sunk my head in shame for not picking up on it myself, now you go and reveal i've had the exact same thing staring me in the face in SO and AGAIN i missed it...
 

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God damnit... i had 'cum-on-me' revealed to me in this thread and sunk my head in shame for not picking up on it myself, now you go and reveal i've had the exact same thing staring me in the face in SO and AGAIN i missed it...
I feel like if I told you the capital of Thailand is Bangkok your response would be
"what a lovely normal non-european name for a city, its just sounds so beautiful to my ears, it's like the Thai people sang the word into existence, I want to scream my love to Bangkok"
and you wouldn't really grasp what you were saying phonetically
 
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crustlord12

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Well that's unfortunate. That means it's not replay-able at all. You'll see it once through normal playthrough and that's it...
This will maybe put a damper on crustlord12's Replay All Mod since its not an event and will be skipped by the Mod. How's that going BTW?
Don't worry, this already happened with a small scene at the very start of the game; after the dream with Ami but before you walk to school, she wakes you up. I just manually had to add that into the list, it wasn't a huge issue code-wise but it's what showed me I'll have to check every single event moving forward. Still nothing major, just a small annoyance.

It's also going slowly because I'm a lazy shit after I got the main events done, but I'll try to get chapter 1 fully completed with girls events this week.
 

Bingoogus

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I feel like if I told you the capital of Thailand is Bangkok your response would be
"what a lovely normal non-european name for a city, its just sounds so beautiful to my ears, it's like the Thai people sang the word into existence, I want to scream my love to Bangkok"
and you wouldn't really grasp what you were saying phonetically
Yeah but like, what you're describing as an example is exactly why i've missed both of these, if it's a foreign name i don't hear it in English so i don't check it against English words and sounds.
 
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KnowNoHope

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Yeah but like, what you're describing as an example is exactly why i've missed both of these, if it's a foreign name i don't hear it in English so i don't check it against English words and sounds.
you make me smile sweet summer child
this phenomenone is also called a homophone where a word or words sound like a different word or words
 
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