VN Ren'Py Let the Nightshine In [v0.17 Ch. 2] [Sieglinnde]

[Sieglinnde]

Just don't let them impact your story and you having fun making/writing it. Also, just a quick question, you said to a early reply that the Christmas special will be focused on the NTR path, does that mean that the Sharing route won't have new content?

This christmas special will be like a "separate game" and maybe I will open another thread for it... It will be an "alternative" scenario and will focus on the NTR... It will be out this month, on or after the 20th... Along with the LTNI update of this month as well... In that update I will update the Sharing route, with the event that was planned from the previous update between Ariana, Tyrone and Mallory (probably add an event between MC, Ariana and Mallory as well)

 

[Xxriz]

This christmas special will be like a "separate game" and maybe I will open another thread for it... It will be an "alternative" scenario and will focus on the NTR... It will be out this month, on or after the 20th... Along with the LTNI update of this month as well... In that update I will update the Sharing route, with the event that was planned from the previous update between Ariana, Tyrone and Mallory (probably add an event between MC, Ariana and Mallory as well)

And when is the Vanilla route gonna be updated it's been months ,we know you're in the NTR side of things ,i forgot to tell u i still enjoy the vanilla is not perfect but it is what is i am just wondering have a nice day dear dev

 

[Sieglinnde]

And when is the Vanilla route gonna be updated it's been months ,we know you're in the NTR side of things ,i forgot to tell u i still enjoy the vanilla is not perfect but it is what is i am just wondering have a nice day dear dev

What do you mean has been months? It was updated last month!

 

[Xxriz]

What do you mean has been months? It was updated last month!

Are u sure the last time it was 26 th of October when all the routes were updated so nothing since, that's 1 month and a half i hope u have something good planned for the couple in that route ...but the way are things going hardly

 

[Turret]

Hi Sieglinnde !

Finally had the time to play the next update, turns out it is actually two versions now.
First the Good: The vanilla/romance route shows real promise into which directions it can go in the future. Besides the characters can be really cute. Fun playing it.
I am not a fan of NTR, so I speeded through these paths, but for the NTR crowd the various characters show enough assholishness and emotional distress to be pleasing to them. I am sure the NTR fans will be ok going onwards.

Now for the "Sharing" path we already had so much discussion about. I have to give it to you and lift my virtual hat, it is a rare occurance that I get more annoyed and pissed off by a game than I was with the older version! I did not even reach the end of the update, I quit well before. There comes a situation where the MC and Arianna are at the gym. When I saw this, my first(!) thought was paraphrased:"The MC is depicted like a snivelling dishrag, because it is the only way Sieglinne could halfway enact the unbelievable forgiveness Arianna got. I sincerely hope that he/she resists making the MC lose to her, but I think it will happen."

It got even "better"! The MC goes down like a potato sack from a hit even a baby would not have felt much. I quit LTNI right there! A wimp has more spine than this MC!
Now I read in one of Griev posts that even on the "Sharing"(in name only) path, the MC is good at fighting? WTF? The whole "sharing" path you went out of your way to depict the MC as a gelded, limpdicked doormat, having problems standing up to an earthworm in the garden, but he can fight to make an army instructor proud? That is absurd!

I know/estimate that you painted the MC here like a pegged beta dishrag to make his unbelievble forgiveness towards Arianna swallowable. I think deep down you know you went totally overboard with the NTR Arianna did at the start of this path, it is too much and the betrayals too great to be forgiven. There are deeds that can be forgiven, even really big fuckups can be forgiven under specific circumstances, but you depicted the Arianna of the "sharing" path with few redeemable qualities, it is worse in that she knew how hurt the MC was by what happened with Queen.
I wrote several times in earlier posts that Arianna goes way too far, to tone down what she does to stay believable. There is a difference between one or two "oops" in the heat of the moment (should not happen, but we are all human and it can be forgiven) and what you made Arianna do, including many players estimating Arianna was on the fast lane to become Tyrone´s girlfriend.

For a MC to forgive Arianna in the path you depicted here, you need to tone and cut down her transgressions! One can forgive Arianna if the scope of her deeds is just "bad", but as you depicted it here she went far too far!
As for the girls coming in if the MC does not forgive Arianna, that should be Mallory (who seems to care and developing a crush) or Queen (the MC and her relationship was a comedy of errors and wellmeant, but ultimately bad advice, might have a second chance)

Still I wish you luck and success with LTNI! (But I am not sure I will return to play it, sorry )

 

[Kotobiki]

I think you guys, and specially the Dev are wasting your time, debating with a guy who is hellbent in hating the game for not being THE EXACT way HE wants it to be. I'm mean, the dude use the word "feminazi" in 2023 unironically, just that should give you the idea of the type this guy is.

This is coming from a guy who isn't all too pleased with some aspects of the game, namely the starting of the sharing route, but I'm able to see that the Dev tried to give some depth to the characters. All of that will be lost to Wanker, because I'm pretty sure that his idea of a good male character is a big dicked, jacked up dude, who fucks everything in his path and and a good female character is one who never even dare to breath in the same space that another man, besides the big-dicked-mc, is in, otherwise she is a whore and should be burn at the fucking stake.

It's just entertaining to see peeps be so projective and in denial about their emotional investment.

 

[Xxriz]

Personally, she is a character I prefer with difference

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She quite the cum bucket that's for sure ,good dream i guess it's reality now

 

[Griev]

Personally, she is a character I prefer with difference

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Only thing I'd advise is to be careful with the routes. You are in the sweet spot right now with 4. A Couples Duet began adding so many routes that you spend more time loading saves trying to figure out which route was progressed with each update than you do playing the actual game.

 

[Kotobiki]

Only thing I'd advise is to be careful with the routes. You are in the sweet spot right now with 4. A Couples Duet began adding so many routes that you spend more time loading saves trying to figure out which route was progressed with each update than you do playing the actual game.

I agree. While I do think there's definetely room for more routes like more conventional sharing and regular cheating (aka just doing it cus drunk and really attracted or something rather than the twirly mustache scheming Mason pulled off), when there's too many routes things usually end in a swamp and a lot of times even unfinished. Just look at Girlfriend Tapes and Seeds of Chaos. If there's gonna be more routes I think they should be worked on retroactively aka till the game is nearing the end or already finished. Would also give replay value if we wanna see it that way.

 

[Sieglinnde]

I agree. While I do think there's definetely room for more routes like more conventional sharing and regular cheating (aka just doing it cus drunk and really attracted or something rather than the twirly mustache scheming Mason pulled off), when there's too many routes things usually end in a swamp and a lot of times even unfinished. Just look at Girlfriend Tapes and Seeds of Chaos. If there's gonna be more routes I think they should be worked on retroactively aka till the game is nearing the end or already finished. Would also give replay value if we wanna see it that way.

I will try to take that into account. I was planning to add a few more but... What you guys say is true... Though, I have a few more ideas for other routes

 

[Xxriz]

Funnily enough, Arianna as an "as is" character is fun and I even like her. It is how and where she is used which make the problems. For example, Arianna could be a fitting, good ethical slut on real sharing path. But since it is glaringly obvious now that in LTNI the "Sharing" path is simply a NTR path with a threadbare figleaf of "sharing" content, Arianna logically comes across as a bitching h...

Quite true i "like" her too but she's used quite bad there's no sharing is just Ntr i think the same and said it aswell before one hour ago i rolled skipped everything cuz i wanted to see what's its all about cuz before I haven't played it any other route except the vanilla , i just quit when i saw when she knocked out mc in the gym it was so pathetic i think u said something like that before i think it was u maybe i am wrong

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

After reading these last 4 pages of heated discussion, I need to re-download and run through vanilla path to see if the juice is worth the squeeze. Having never played it prior, my general impression was it was well-received, with Ariana acting like a sweetheart throughout.

It's a little more difficult for me to empathize with the vanilla path promoters than the sharing path promoters, because I'm always suspicious of their motives entering into an arena where npc-npc sex occurs adjacently/nearby on other paths. (given the choice, would they prefer just to have a pure harem game?)

At the same time, I equally dislike this kind of drivel -

I think you guys, and specially the Dev are wasting your time, debating with a guy who is hellbent in hating the game for not being THE EXACT way HE wants it to be. I'm mean, the dude use the word "feminazi" in 2023 unironically, just that should give you the idea of the type this guy is.

This is coming from a guy who isn't all too pleased with some aspects of the game, namely the starting of the sharing route, but I'm able to see that the Dev tried to give some depth to the characters. All of that will be lost to Wanker, because I'm pretty sure that his idea of a good male character is a big dicked, jacked up dude, who fucks everything in his path and and a good female character is one who never even dare to breath in the same space that another man, besides the big-dicked-mc, is in, otherwise she is a whore and should be burn at the fucking stake.

As if vanilla path players are the only ones who want stereotypes in their porn, and ntr preferences don't trend towards an equally ridiculous set of generalizations. While wanker certainly came across as uncouth, I don't doubt his underlying sincerity. I DO doubt pambamlam's sincerity, this reads like a top level reddit comment, attempting to discredit someone's opinion by painting them as some "unenlightened bozo", perhaps not realizing how much this reveals their own biases.

A Couples Duet began adding so many routes that you spend more time loading saves trying to figure out which route was progressed with each update than you do playing the actual game.

Spoiler: you're on the IR cuckold path.

Unless of course you're on the Romance or Peter paths, which means you're a sadface gamer with no content.

 

[Sieglinnde]

After reading these last 4 pages of heated discussion, I need to re-download and run through vanilla path to see if the juice is worth the squeeze. Having never played it prior, my general impression was it was well-received, with Ariana acting like a sweetheart throughout.

It's a little more difficult for me to empathize with the vanilla path promoters than the sharing path promoters, because I'm always suspicious of their motives entering into an arena where npc-npc sex occurs adjacently/nearby on other paths. (given the choice, would they prefer just to have a pure harem game?)

At the same time, I equally dislike this kind of drivel -
As if vanilla path players are the only ones who want stereotypes in their porn, and ntr preferences don't trend towards an equally ridiculous set of generalizations. While wanker certainly came across as uncouth, I don't doubt his underlying sincerity. I DO doubt pambamlam's sincerity, this reads like a top level reddit comment, attempting to discredit someone's opinion by painting them as some "unenlightened bozo", perhaps not realizing how much this reveals their own biases.


Spoiler: you're on the IR cuckold path.

Unless of course you're on the Romance or Peter paths, which means you're a sadface gamer with no content.

I was really confused by A couple's duet... I couldn't get NTR content no matter how hard I tried... Turns out you have to act like an idiot and treat people in general and your wife badly to get on the NTR path... The decisions are pretty specific, luckily it has a guide

 

[Griev]

Lol I find most harem games super bland. I remember enjoying the first 1-2 I played but then they just all began to blur together because its the same ole, MC has dick, MC uses dick on everything with boobs, the end. Then again, most sharing are boring as well because its MC always pushing FMC into fuckin other guys. She starts off hesitant until she gets dick, then she's winning Bull Riding contest by the end of the week. The women rarely have agency outside of "plz gib dik" once they've tried swinging, sharing.
That being said, I usually ignore folks that will compare this game to what they want, and give a typical "trope" filled response, or give examples of games that are similar to what I mentioned before.
I think I might actually like reading this thread more than I like PLAYING most of the games on f95! Its funny to read comments from people that swore they were goin to quit or pass on the game, but return later to hate on the game because they didn't get the attention they wanted before when they threatened to "pass" because of NTR lol. How the turn tables!!


I stopped even trying with A Couple's Duet. Following the walkthrough guide is harder than Mason's dick when MC's love ones are around.

 

[Kotobiki]

Lol I find most harem games super bland. I remember enjoying the first 1-2 I played but then they just all began to blur together because its the same ole, MC has dick, MC uses dick on everything with boobs, the end. Then again, most sharing are boring as well because its MC always pushing FMC into fuckin other guys. She starts off hesitant until she gets dick, then she's winning Bull Riding contest by the end of the week. The women rarely have agency outside of "plz gib dik" once they've tried swinging, sharing.
That being said, I usually ignore folks that will compare this game to what they want, and give a typical "trope" filled response, or give examples of games that are similar to what I mentioned before.
I think I might actually like reading this thread more than I like PLAYING most of the games on f95! Its funny to read comments from people that swore they were goin to quit or pass on the game, but return later to hate on the game because they didn't get the attention they wanted before when they threatened to "pass" because of NTR lol. How the turn tables!!


I stopped even trying with A Couple's Duet. Following the walkthrough guide is harder than Mason's dick when MC's love ones are around.

Hardest substances in the universe:
3 - Neutron stars nuclear pasta
2 - Mason's dick when he saw Ariana, Pamela and Rose in the same room.
1 - A Couple's Duet path system

 

[Joshy92]

I don't think Ariana is a slut she just likes sex
And I think she is really sweet
She is trying to understand the mc's kinks & fetishes all the time on the sharing path

Some guys find humiliation stuff hot the mc is one of them I think

Like I said guys if she was my girlfriend, I would watch her bang a hundred dudes
And of course, I would hold her hand and tell her she is beautiful

Heck, I want to date Mallory so she can cuck me too
It would be a double cuck.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I don't think Ariana is a slut she just likes sex
And I think she is really sweet
She is trying to understand the mc's kinks & fetishes all the time on the sharing path

Some guys find humiliation stuff hot the mc is one of them I think

Like I said guys if she was my girlfriend, I would watch her bang a hundred dudes
And of course, I would hold her hand and tell her she is beautiful

Heck, I want to date Mallory so she can cuck me too
It would be a double cuck.

Joshy, to be fair, in your internal dictionary, does the word "Slut" have a definition?

 

[jaden000]

So much emotional tantrum over a fictional porn character as if Ariana cucked them irl I know damn well if the roles were reversed hardly would be this much crying in this community

 

[Joshy92]

Joshy, to be fair, in your internal dictionary, does the word "Slut" have a definition?

No, not really
I don't even like using the word slut it sounds so mean

But if a girl is a slut
Well, that sounds super-hot to me

 

[Sieglinnde]

No, not really
I don't even like using the word slut it sounds so mean

But if a girl is a slut
Well, that sounds super-hot to me

I kind of think the same... It sounds hot to me... For example, I don't like the word "whore" because it's... It's not even hot, idk... It's like something filthy, you know? But the word "slut" it's like something hot as you say... Depending on how you use it, though