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thats because NTR means iNTeRracial
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I'm sorry for not replying to your messages like that man... I really feel bad about it now that you mention it... To tell the truth, at the time I was feeling rather lazy about writing and that's why I didn't reply
but it was also because I didn't want to get into a spiral of discussion like that again (as it happened with some other people in the past, I was just tired)... Since in your paragraph you mentioned several things that you didn't like, then maybe I felt that I shouldn't start maybe a discussion that I felt wasn't going to end and stuff... You know? Although I appreciate that you mention things and are still active in the thread and stuff, and that you take the story deeply too. I hope that the thing I replied to that person, johanna, was enough to respond some of the things that you mention before when you was saying things that you didn't like about the game
I advise you not to give attention to that "alex220477", he is someone who has created multiple, multiple accounts to give bad reviews to NTR games in general, and have been given me a lot of bad reviews with other accounts as well in my games... It is very, very sad
Is that joiplay? I know nothing about problems in joiplay man, sorry
Hey. Thanks, I almost see jealousy in some users, that my message got answered by developer.
Really appreciate your time and attention to fun base, engaging in meaningful conversations.
About indecisiveness — I do not know if this is another joke.
So, let me answer just in general, to nobody in particular. May be useful for young men.
It is not about indecisiveness if you like it or not. It is totally O.K. to have reservations, because potential risks, and high value you put in a partner you do not want to lose.
I was talking about M.C. when he permitted it, maybe multiple times in different manner.
He decided. And then...
Starts this whining: "I do not know... I do not understand, oh... I do not know what to feel. Oh... I do not know what to think..."
What the hell, how can you not know what do you like?
Answer 2 questions.
1. Is it safe for you, partner and your relationships? Medical, criminal and emotional wise (can she fall in love)? Yes or no?
2. Do you like it in a sexual way? Yes or no.
Yes to both — good to go. No to any — do not start.
Enjoying it only as a fantasy? Talk to and role-play with a girl. Pretend you are a “stranger”. And she is a good girl, but still a slut that is willing to fuck around if the man is charming enough. Talk to her and touch her like she is not yours already. Because men can become complacent and lazy in their sex once they “achieved”. Go on a date, where you act like you only met. Ask for nudes afterward as if she is other man's girl, when she is away at work or something.
Let her flirt like a playful babe she can be, but no longer need to. Compliment her how skillful and hungry her cheating mouth is when she will suck you dry passionately. And so on.
Really appreciate your time and attention to fun base, engaging in meaningful conversations.
About indecisiveness — I do not know if this is another joke.
So, let me answer just in general, to nobody in particular. May be useful for young men.
It is not about indecisiveness if you like it or not. It is totally O.K. to have reservations, because potential risks, and high value you put in a partner you do not want to lose.
I was talking about M.C. when he permitted it, maybe multiple times in different manner.
He decided. And then...
Starts this whining: "I do not know... I do not understand, oh... I do not know what to feel. Oh... I do not know what to think..."
What the hell, how can you not know what do you like?
Answer 2 questions.
1. Is it safe for you, partner and your relationships? Medical, criminal and emotional wise (can she fall in love)? Yes or no?
2. Do you like it in a sexual way? Yes or no.
Yes to both — good to go. No to any — do not start.
Enjoying it only as a fantasy? Talk to and role-play with a girl. Pretend you are a “stranger”. And she is a good girl, but still a slut that is willing to fuck around if the man is charming enough. Talk to her and touch her like she is not yours already. Because men can become complacent and lazy in their sex once they “achieved”. Go on a date, where you act like you only met. Ask for nudes afterward as if she is other man's girl, when she is away at work or something.
Let her flirt like a playful babe she can be, but no longer need to. Compliment her how skillful and hungry her cheating mouth is when she will suck you dry passionately. And so on.
Sieglinnde Do you plan to update Vanilla route soon? According to changelogs you haven't add any content on that route for a very long time. All ntr-nts-sharing
Hey, full support in your work. And never pay attention to negative comments.
Like, this is true for so many developers. Please, focus on thousands of both silent and vocal supporters of your work. Please do not let 20 from like 30K or more players to ruin your mood or motivation.
Also, I just wanted to make a statement.
This NTR hate is not unique. I form my messages so they can be read by a wide audience.
Just please know every time. There are huge amounts of players who support you. Who like NTR games, who do not share this “slut hate” mindset. And even more moderate here, that still critique Ariana.
I can assure you, most of us like her very much.
So, please, be proud of making sexually free and slutty girls with some other positive sides to them.
If you focus too much on even “moderate” critique and try to change girls in your works, this is like neglecting your main target audience.
Comments like above: "Ariana is super hot. I want to worship her so much" are the ones you should always pay prime attention to.
Never let slut-shame your girls. And never pay too much attention to 5% even moderate critique about “slutty” girl.
Please, always remember — your core audience in what matters.
Giving disproportionate attention to slut-critique can feel unfair to us. You can not and should not appease everyone. So, you can make main appreciative audience most happy with not going to wash sultry part, being spicy and daring. Not making every girl a bland Mary Sue — a no personality obedient boring female for insecure, negative and jealous men.
They don't deserve it.
We do — in having our fantasy (and sometimes real) sexy girls.
Like, this is true for so many developers. Please, focus on thousands of both silent and vocal supporters of your work. Please do not let 20 from like 30K or more players to ruin your mood or motivation.
Also, I just wanted to make a statement.
This NTR hate is not unique. I form my messages so they can be read by a wide audience.
Just please know every time. There are huge amounts of players who support you. Who like NTR games, who do not share this “slut hate” mindset. And even more moderate here, that still critique Ariana.
I can assure you, most of us like her very much.
So, please, be proud of making sexually free and slutty girls with some other positive sides to them.
If you focus too much on even “moderate” critique and try to change girls in your works, this is like neglecting your main target audience.
Comments like above: "Ariana is super hot. I want to worship her so much" are the ones you should always pay prime attention to.
Never let slut-shame your girls. And never pay too much attention to 5% even moderate critique about “slutty” girl.
Please, always remember — your core audience in what matters.
Giving disproportionate attention to slut-critique can feel unfair to us. You can not and should not appease everyone. So, you can make main appreciative audience most happy with not going to wash sultry part, being spicy and daring. Not making every girl a bland Mary Sue — a no personality obedient boring female for insecure, negative and jealous men.
They don't deserve it.
We do — in having our fantasy (and sometimes real) sexy girls.
I personally have not seen much "NTR hate" in this thread. And I wonder to be honest if your black-and-white staement really grasps the nuances of the discussion and the game here. I myself for example have stated that I want the NTR route, that I love good cheating stories that I dont see a problem on a moral level and that I like Ari to be a slut. Nevertheless you critizesed me for questioning the plausibility of her simply fucking around they way she did in the update. Maybe you view that already as slut-shaming which it isn't.
In my opinion you are conflating two very distinct discussions:
1. People, who don't want girls in porn games being promiscuous and cheating, often arguing morally against that. Also they see that on principle as a violation of the alpha role in men, and they don't get a kik out of it (which one should accept though, people are different). They don't want to imagine being in a position where their girl breaks out of a monogamous relationship. They don't want this kind of uncontrolled and forced competition. Also they have a certain image of girls in general, which includes innocence and reliability (not necessarily submissiveness which is very well compatible to the slut). Again - I wom't judge them for that like you do, even if I don't share it in the context of porn games. But I do know that innocence in girls can be very erotic.
2. People who want her to be a slut but have another conception of being a slut. This is the real discussion here. I hate to break it to you, but what you describe is a certain specific image of slut which pretends to be freed from morals but in fact is totally in line with what society and media dictate today, it is full of moral implications itself: being supposedly daring, free and strong,, and the men not accepting that are negative insecure and jealous - man, speaking of morally loaded shaming language here.
What I conceptualize as "slut", is in contrast not the fullfillment of such a societal ideal but a woman who has to confront and explore her sexuality but has to do that not necessarily and always out of her own free will, who is conflicted about it (this makes for interesting stories), who has a journey with it (starting from innocence and getting more depraved), who is overwhelmed by it and not always on top of it, who gets seduced by it and not always decides and chooses it. In other words: a slut is a woman who REACTS sensually and sexually who is RESPONSIVE and GIVES IN. And who does this regardless of the consequences. WHO CANNOT HELP HERSELF. This defines her, not her being totally self-determined - this is boring and bland. I don't want her to be written like a man, I want a heteosexual tension in my porn games based on different behaviors, this is what makes it interesting. I want her to be human and plausible. Of course sluts can be submissive I would reckon they mostly are. Following your impulses doesn't make you free and strong, in the contrary. But it can be very exciting to watch and be charming but also dangerous to see in a woman.
You speak of Mary Sue. Your concept of slut is the Mary Sue here in porn - the turbo slut which has always been that way totally free, totally fucking around, only driven by free choice and libido. There is no conflict and development there, no problems of power and desire, everything gets instantly acted upon. And you have to accept that "worshipping" is not the way all male users relate erotically to the girls in these games. I don't want to worship sluts, I want to watch them, these are different things. There are things inbetween between worshipping and hate.
So, you like to give warnings to the dev about the development of the game. I don't want to be so dramatic (we talk about porn, in the end) but I see the danger in the opposite extreme: everything becomes a fuckfest of empowered totally "free" and boring slut-Mary Sues. This destroys psychologically nuanced and enganging storylines.
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I did not speak personally to anyone except the developer here.
Also, I am anti-woke. So mainstream western anti-male propaganda does not resonate with me positively. Missed shots there.
I am pro-beauty and all for a sexuality positive society. For both females and males, in real fairness.
I like a semi-open relationship type story here. As I said. The only problem with Ariana is her lies. Everything else is fine or good. She can be the girl she wants to be.
Innocence can be very erotic indeed. I just dislike mostly Japanese type of sex-story girl type who dislikes sex and almost forced to become slut.
So-called corruption is great from the starting point of innocence. But because she is excepting her true self. And her partner supports her, or guides her, or permits her and lets he free from shackles of societal pressure of oppressing female (and male now too!) sexuality.
Once again. Except for lying, she is just living many boy's dream life. She likes to fuck, and she acts on her desires. Respect and support to her. More women like her will make the world a better place. Not prude, withholding sex, aggressive sex desire shaming, judgmental females and males. They make the world a sad place it is now. Mostly for many young and not so young males, actually. With tens if not hundreds of millions of secluded, to say it nicely, men without sex, or at least regular and quality sex. Across the globe.
And some of them surely deserve love and sexual attention of a beautiful girl without paying for it.
The definition of slut is a woman that has sex with multiple partners without hard emotional attachment.
Which is exactly what Ariana does. And this makes at least some game males happy. Most of them don't deserve it, but still. She is a very good girl, making a very positive social contribution. Especially considering her beauty and true desire to have sex.
If in thought experiment many girls magically will turn to be like her physically and sexually with, yea, more honesty and faithfulness to her own commitments — the world would become a dream paradise overnight.
So she is absolutely a positive and admirable image of a woman with some flaws like lying.
Also, I am anti-woke. So mainstream western anti-male propaganda does not resonate with me positively. Missed shots there.
I am pro-beauty and all for a sexuality positive society. For both females and males, in real fairness.
I like a semi-open relationship type story here. As I said. The only problem with Ariana is her lies. Everything else is fine or good. She can be the girl she wants to be.
Innocence can be very erotic indeed. I just dislike mostly Japanese type of sex-story girl type who dislikes sex and almost forced to become slut.
So-called corruption is great from the starting point of innocence. But because she is excepting her true self. And her partner supports her, or guides her, or permits her and lets he free from shackles of societal pressure of oppressing female (and male now too!) sexuality.
Once again. Except for lying, she is just living many boy's dream life. She likes to fuck, and she acts on her desires. Respect and support to her. More women like her will make the world a better place. Not prude, withholding sex, aggressive sex desire shaming, judgmental females and males. They make the world a sad place it is now. Mostly for many young and not so young males, actually. With tens if not hundreds of millions of secluded, to say it nicely, men without sex, or at least regular and quality sex. Across the globe.
And some of them surely deserve love and sexual attention of a beautiful girl without paying for it.
The definition of slut is a woman that has sex with multiple partners without hard emotional attachment.
Which is exactly what Ariana does. And this makes at least some game males happy. Most of them don't deserve it, but still. She is a very good girl, making a very positive social contribution. Especially considering her beauty and true desire to have sex.
If in thought experiment many girls magically will turn to be like her physically and sexually with, yea, more honesty and faithfulness to her own commitments — the world would become a dream paradise overnight.
So she is absolutely a positive and admirable image of a woman with some flaws like lying.
Direct contradiction there. The second sentence is exactly what western "propaganda" says all the time.
Also I don't get the "fairness" point. Desire has nothing to do with fairness. This is utopian thoughtt. Case in point: I can't see Ari getting with losers, can you? She looks at the alpha males. Is this "fair"?
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This could be a prostitute. Or, if she is not simultaneously in a relationship, if she doesn't cheat, this is the state of a lot of single women in non-traditional societies today. I wouldn't call them sluts. A lot of them don't even like the sex very much. They could simply be lonely. Motives are key here.
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But this is central, this is not a bug, it's the feature. You should ask why she lies. She doesn't lie because of some kind of repressive society. She lies because of her inner conflict of motives, she wants security and sexual promiscuity at the same time. she knows she is hurting other persons. She wants her cake and eat it, too. As a said already, it's not a swinger club, there she wouldn't have to lie. Humans don't function the way you paint your "paradise".
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Baru sadar aku ngepost make bahasa indo, padahal make bahasa inggris td, kena auto translate google bjiirrrr
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I think some people are focusing too much on the whole Ari cheating or whatever. I mean it's a porn game lets just enjoy either the NTR or the NTS whichever floats your boat.