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it was done correctly. i noticed it immediately and thought it was a nice touch. not sure why anyone would be upset about it honestly.
:cool: :love: Awesome, thank you.

Once that dies down making sure there is something for everyone will be beneficial. I do think that adding as many fetishes as possible is a terrible strategy though. You stretch yourself too thin then no one really gets to enjoy what they want, as I said before it's all a balancing act.
Agreed. Hence why thanks to all the feedback I've read, I'm going to tread with a lot more care in the execution of future choices. I want to remind people why they took an interest in this story in the first place.

Appreciate your post.

Good luck making 2 games for everyone to be happy
I prefer one game with multiple paths.
 
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no, I actually think this is good. for the love path as well.
remember that he drugged her. there need to be some shit storm to be able to repair the damage.
just put yourself in her shoes, how can u believe in the Mc, that he is honest and love you when u know he drugged you and fucked you.
so give it a update or two and they will find a way to get past this and build a new and loving relationship.
sure its up to the MC and his decision. he really need to step up and show he mean well and is serious about it.
if daughter would forgive him that easy, I would not respect her much.
I mostly agree, good chatting you btw thanks for a good conversation. What I dislike is Belle is acting like a spoiled child again.and I dislike how its assumed you drugged her, you both were drugged the first time and simply choosing not to tell her isn't the end of the world, it was never done with narfaious intent. Had you told her right away she would have still freaked out and accused you. My issue is she refuses to offer MC a chance to explain anything. Which is why I disagree with the whole NTR revenge against big mean MC as an argument. That says alot about Belle. There is always two sides to every story and the truth is somewhere in the middle, if you deny the other side of the argument you are literally denying attempts at truth. Communication is super important for these type of situations. Had she heard MC out, like truly heard MC out then them decided she still needed time, my opinion might be closer to yours.
 
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this will probably be unpopular but i liked all the paths so far and i'm hopeful the love path will take awhile to develop that trust between mc and fmc again. a slow build will be more enjoyable in the end IMO.

full slut speed ahead on the other paths though
 

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Sorry to be cynical, I really liked this game once too. Getting a little queasy thinking about another 7 update lumbering storyline before things get congenially interesting again between the two main characters (if they ever do). There have been several once really good games going in that direction lately too, not just this one. And with so much creative new work popping up lately, what's the point? Stopped playing Room for Rent altogether for the same reason. I'll check this one out again in 5 or 6 updates.
 

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Anyone who enjoyed the story for the proper love relationship between the FMC & MC. You absolutely won't be left out.
Not possible when the protagonist gets forced into sexual encounters with other parties. That scene with Violet pretty much illustrates the point. No choice.
I didn't convey the message behind Violet's scene well enough, once again that's on me. I will do better.
What message? She wanted to suck him off and he couldn't wait for it to happen.

Does "proper love relationship between the FMC & MC" involve them being faithful to each other? That's really all I want to know.
 

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this will probably be unpopular but i liked all the paths so far and i'm hopeful the love path will take awhile to develop that trust between mc and fmc again. a slow build will be more enjoyable in the end IMO.

full slut speed ahead on the other paths though
Yeah very unpopular that has killed the growth of several titles, that's basically saying to one set of fans, you will eventually get content but this set of fans gets ALL the content and what do you think is going to happen here on the forums? That's simply a bad strategy and will only go full Culture Shock which will kill the growth. Game will start to die. You may not like people who are anti NTR but they do make up a large sum of supporters and fantasy, once they start abandoning ship you MAY get some new NTR fans on board but just compare the most popular Devs for NTR stories and None NTR stories and see who makes more money. Last time I checked Harem Hotel, WMV, Being a Dick, Dating my Daughter and Milfy City are the highest grossing titles on the site and not one of them has even partial NTR.

There was already an entire season 1 of slow build and slow burn milking those Patreons now many will move on to other titles and it's not like their isn't plenty of options. Lot's of up and coming games can easily take those dollars, Radiant even with it's controversial second release is still a popular title and is actively being worked on again by it's Dev team, Single Again is another title that gets a ton of attention and has had exponential growth and those are just two off the top of my head. The Chole Team found the sweet spot for releases and fetishes that makes everyone happy. I still think the smartest move now is balance. You can't take away the NTR now that it's here, but you can ensure that everyone else isn't getting screwed over on the updates wondering, "why am I supporting this game again? Clearly they don't care about me as a fan"

Ofc i could be wrong and feel free to disagree, I just see these things differently through the lense of numbers and at the of the end, numbers are what will either drive a project forward or grind it to a haul unless the Dev really doesn't care but let's be fair here, not many people enjoy working hard for hardly nothing or for free.
 

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Last time I checked Harem Hotel, WMV, Being a Dick, Dating my Daughter and Milfy City are the highest grossing titles on the site and not one of them has even partial NTR.
Are you sure you played Ch3 of Dating my Daughter or only Ch1 and 2? Not to mention what was announced to come in the last update for this year and in Ch4 next year.. At this time at least "partial" is in there!

As for Milfy City when the mother sucks her son's dick next to her sleeping husband and then spends a whole weekend fucking her son by the sea, how do you call that?

And by BaDIK you have Sage cheating on her BF with the MC as "fuckbuddy" while being mad at her BF for cheating on her lol, you also have a certain teacher cheating on her husband with the MC, and then and above all.. the gorgeous "ice queen" Bella. Not to mention MC's 3 some relationship with 2 lesbians.. That apart from the MC fucking every single girl or milf there is while declaring love to some of them (depending on choices). But that for you is not NTR, right? The boy can do whatever but the girl must be exclusive..

So at least 3 of your 5 examples of "not even partial NTR" are not right.

I do not use the term NTR myself coz I am no manga kid, for me it's in the case of DMD "sharing" respectively "swinging" and by Milfy City and BaDIK it's "cheating", but for you kids that's clearly NTR.

I know you don't like it coz all that kids want to see is how to conquer and fuck a girl that they love and treat her as their property while they are allowed to fuck around as they want, but when you get a little older you may start to understand why old pervs like me may prefer to see.. let's say.. other things.

But on one thing you are right: there are indeed more kids playing these games than there are adults, which explains why games with what you call NTR have usually less paying users. However the advantage is on my side coz i can play both kinds of games if they are good while kids will give up playing any game where the main girl shows the slightest intention of not being "exclusive".

That's because i was also a kid myself and i can remember how that feels. But you kids were not yet adults .. Advantage old pervs LOL :)
 

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Are you sure you played Ch3 of Dating my Daughter or only Ch1 and 2? Not to mention what was announced to come in the last update for this year and in Ch4 next year.. At this time at least "partial" is in there!

As for Milfy City when the mother sucks her son's dick next to her sleeping husband and then spends a whole weekend fucking her son by the sea, how do you call that?

And by BaDIK you have Sage cheating on her BF with the MC as "fuckbuddy" while being mad at her BF for cheating on her lol, you also have a certain teacher cheating on her husband with the MC, and then and above all.. the gorgeous "ice queen" Bella. Not to mention MC's 3 some relationship with 2 lesbians.. That apart from the MC fucking every single girl or milf there is while declaring love to some of them (depending on choices). But that for you is not NTR, right? The boy can do whatever but the girl must be exclusive..

So at least 3 of your 5 examples of "not even partial NTR" are not right.

I do not use the term NTR myself coz I am no manga kid, for me it's in the case of DMD "sharing" respectively "swinging" and by Milfy City and BaDIK it's "cheating", but for you kids that's clearly NTR.

I know you don't like it coz all that kids want to see is how to conquer and fuck a girl that they love and treat her as their property while they are allowed to fuck around as they want, but when you get a little older you may start to understand why old pervs like me may prefer to see.. let's say.. other things.

But on one thing you are right: there are indeed more kids playing these games than there are adults, which explains why games with what you call NTR have usually less paying users. However the advantage is on my side coz i can play both kinds of games if they are good while kids will give up playing any game where the main girl shows the slightest intention of not being "exclusive".

That's because i was also a kid myself and i can remember how that feels. But you kids were not yet adults .. Advantage old pervs LOL :)
Can you show me an NTR tag for any of the games you just mentioned? No? I wonder why that is :unsure:
 

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Can you show me an NTR tag for any of the games you just mentioned? No? I wonder why that is :unsure:
I told you what you can see in those games and i also told you that the term NTR is only used by a certain generation of "manga kids". The devs of those games may not belong to that generation. And what they write or not in their tags is not my problem.

My problem was that much content in those games, tagged or not, was indeed of the kind that you would call "NTR" and I mentioned some of it.
 

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I told you what you can see in those games and i also told you that the term NTR is only used by a certain generation of "manga kids". The devs of those games may not belong to that generation. And what they write or not in their tags is not my problem.

My problem was that much content in those games, tagged or not, was indeed of the kind that you would call "NTR" and I mentioned some of it.
It's not NTR as defined by the site nor is it Netorare which is what is most often referred to by the term NTR. You clearly have no understanding of this at all.
 

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seems like snowflakes and weak people can't stand other people having sex beside them, seems very male chauvinistic.
Maybe go back and actually fucking read, based on several of the comments made by huge NTR fans your lot falls into that same group of "snowflakes" because several of them called for the none NTR path to stop progressing at the same rate.
 
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in what world cuckolding is a synonym of strong masculinity or maturity.
I mean how is it not, especially when you say cuckolding. Do you even know what that means? Willingly sharing your wife/gf with someone. Might seem nonmasculine to people who never had a girlfriend in their life. But that shit takes balls to do. What's not more manly than sharing your love and her coming back to you because she wants you only. Maturity? what's more mature than taking a big decision in your relationship and sticking with it. Called being an adult. Now if that choice sticks right with you or not doesn't really matter does it. Because it's not your choice to make. In fact, it makes you immature caring what other people do with their lives.
We start with the daughter fantasizing about the guy she banged the previous night while talking to the phone with the MC and that's apparently something we have to see, then we have your typical BBC scene, which once again we have to see,
You have to see...well put it this way. When you read a book, and on one page your favorite character gets beheaded. Are you gonna go cry to the author that he should have removed that page? It's a story, that's how the game moves on. Instead of saying let's move on with the story and see what happens next. You want the dev to pick apart scenes again because some dikheads don't like it.
Can you show me an NTR tag for any of the games you just mentioned? No? I wonder why that is :unsure:
It's called Netori which isn't as popular as Netorare. Also, it isn't really required because the term harem is more suited. But while i say that, that doesn't make any of the games any less NTR(Netori). Those games aren't oriented at making the wifes husbands feel bad. This is probably why they won't receive the tag. But again Netori is stealing the loved ones from someone. That is what some of those games have. But not worth tagging them because NTR isn't the point of those games.
It's not NTR as defined by the site nor is it Netorare which is what is most often referred to by the term NTR. You clearly have no understanding of this at all.
It is like I stated in the above quote. It's called Netori, the fact you didn't mention it shows you don't have an understanding of the NTR terms.
 
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It is like I stated in the above quote. It's called Netori, the fact you didn't mention it shows you don't have an understanding of the NTR terms.
Read my comment again. NTR as defined by the site nor is it Netorare which is what is MOST COMMONELY referenced as NTR. I never once said it was the only type of NTR.

See this right here is why even though I agree that everyone should get to enjoy kinks or content they enjoy, I have such a hard time defending you guys when they go ballistic over a small minor insignificant NTR scene. Because you can't help yourselves you gotta go out of your way to insult and belittle others who don't enjoy your kink, yeah do they go over board? YES you bet the fear of NTR is far worse than the fear of COVID-19, is it annoying? YES but calling people babies and arguing with them about not wanting ALL the content to be focused one YOUR kink is just as asinine and absurd as the freak out they do over a small difficult to trigger scene.
 
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Do I really need to explain the difference between a book and a game? Also I love how some of you are talking about others crying or calling them snowflakes, dickheads and shit like that. Because getting annoyed about the change of direction in a game you have spent hours upon hours playing (especially this game with the saves being broken multiple times) is irrational, but calling random people on the internet names, because they don't like the same shit you like, makes total sense and is a sign of maturity!

By the way, have you read the game's overview?
"After a plane crash you and your daughter find yourselves on an abandoned island.
Will help arrive? Were there other survivors? What will happen? You play and YOU decide!"
What's the difference exactly? when the story is already set in stone. In a book, the main character is making choices in said story. The little difference because it's a book is that the author is the only one deciding. Which again is why I say what's the difference. We have choice A and B in a game. But the story is already set. Both choices will still continue in the story. Change in what direction though? You have to make choices to get the so-called NTR scene which I've not played yet btw. Far as I'm concerned the game is still going in the direction the DEV wants it to go. Again this is why I'm wondering why you want him/her to change stuff to your liking. He didn't make the game for you, he made the game that he most importantly wanted to make then comes to the people that also might like it. Nobody specificaly is this game made for. If it was, we would've seen it from the start.

The dickheads or cry babies are the ones hating a particular fetish the dev implemented in the game. There is no claim that they're hating where the game is heading for sake of direction. Its NTR being here right now is what triggers people that don't like it. Nothing wrong with calling them out for it.

Do you mean the same people that don't like NTR now wanna shit on the game because of it? If you wanna be the mature person that you like bragging about. Call both sides out then...but you won't.

I've played this game since the start, some of the choices I liked some I didn't. But you don't see me shitting on the game because of it. I haven't paid for this game, I play it for free. This is why I wouldn't shit on a game because a dev took another route that I happen not to like, I would advise others to do the same. If I did something like that, I'd have over a thousand posts by now.

About the overview question. Yeah, try reading it again. Will help arrive...Were there other "survivors"? You can have many opinions on what that means. For me, it foreshadowed something like this happening. Which I'm happy for btw. Now the last part. "You play and YOU DECIDE!"...That's what I mean by story. It literally tells you that you are the one deciding where the story is heading. It isn't forced on you. Like others have said, you have to make several choices for that scene to happen. This shouldn't be blown out of proportion, but it's because people like you feeling entitled to have everything they want and change everything they want. That's why these threads get messy. I love this game from the start because of what the story was. Now if the story took a different turn and you hate it for that fine. But don't hate it because a fetish got put in it. If SCAT was put it in, I'd see if it was avoidable. I wouldn't come here and spit on the whole game because of it.
 

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Read my comment again. NTR as defined by the site nor is it Netorare which is what is MOST COMMONELY referenced as NTR. I never once said it was the only type of NTR.

See this right here is why even though I agree that everyone should get to enjoy kinks or content they enjoy, I have such a hard time defending you guys when they go ballistic over a small minor insignificant NTR scene. Because you can't help yourselves you gotta go out of your way to insult and belittle others who don't enjoy your kink, yeah do they go over board? YES you bet the fear of NTR is far worse than the fear of COVID-19, is it annoying? YES but calling people babies and arguing with them about not wanting ALL the content to be focused one YOUR kink is just as asinine and absurd as the freak out they do over a small difficult to trigger scene.
But if you understood that Netori is what the guy was trying to tell you. You would understand what he meant by counter arguing your argument about those games. The reason you don't see games like that get the NTR tag. Because Netori is easily hideable. Put the Harem tag and be done with it is the thinking process behind those games. Also, the theme of the games isn't NTR orientated. So the casual player that doesn't like NTR is never gonna know the difference. They just know Netorare as the big evil kink.

You and I see eye to eye when it comes to the first part of your point. I'm always on the side of enjoying what you enjoy as long as it doesn't conflict with other's enjoyment. Which is the big case we have right now. Who do you think starts these messy threads when NTR gets tagged? This has happened so many times over the years you become desensitized from it. You can express your opinion of the game if you wish. You can hate it as well. But if the hate is all because of a fetish, then a line has to be drawn. That's what so funny about this whole thing. The content isn't gonna focus on one kink, because the haters never allow it. I both hate that and love it. I hate it because that's literally forcing the dev not to do something he wants to do. I love it becomes that means we get multiple contents of choice than just one.

All in all, what I'm mostly arguing about is let the Dev do what he wants without immediate hate for it. Also don't hate the whole game, just because of some fucking choices that happen to lead you to a scene that you don't like. The beauty of these games people, you don't have to be in that spot if you pick the choices for you.
 
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