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Do you also think it's unnatural that in most MMF threesomes both guys won't touch each other? Claryce is not into men, why would she touch James?

You are just not used to seeing this kind of threesome (probably because pornlogic orders the girls to be bi), but I wouldn't call it 'unnatural'
You are giving a very good point.
 

Avaron1974

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Before writing my rant, I think the graphics are beautiful and the story telling is good too.

But I'm just wondering, this kind of 3some relation with Keeley, Claryce and James at the same time, seems so unnatural. Both having sex with Keeley at the same time, but never touching the other. At least had an option, to get those 2 evolved with each other a little bit too. Be it kissing, or him sucking her boobs, or oral sex. But totally not touching or feeling during sex feels so unnatural.

Like over time they became good friends and better...

It similar unnatural, in my opinion, all those games where you have one man with 2 or more wives, where the wives never touch each other, but are just waiting next to each other for MC to fuck them to an orgasm each.
Considering Claryce is pure lesbian why would she let him touch her?

Speaking as a lesbian it just wouldn't happen. Even if I was to have a threesome with another couple my only interaction would be with the woman.

I think in this scenario it's better not to look as James as the head of the relationship. The women aren't there to "serve" him, rather Claryce and James are there just for Keeley.
 

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I think in this scenario it's better not to look as James as the head of the relationship. The women aren't there to "serve" him, rather Claryce and James are there just for Keeley.
This, right here, is the center of this and many other games major problem. In this one, the man is part of a relationship, where Keeley is the center figure. It isn't a common occurrence, but, it should be. Also, the TAG Lesbian is overused and there's no Bi-sexual TAG. That would avoid so many misunderstood roles in so many games.

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This, right here, is the center of this and many other games major problem. In this one, the man is part of a relationship, where Keeley is the center figure. It isn't a common occurrence, but, it should be. Also, the TAG Lesbian is overused and there's no Bi-sexual TAG. That would avoid so many misunderstood roles in so many games.

Peace :)
Yes and no, I can understand if you have 3some with 2 men and 1 woman, the man won't touch each other. But if you are in a relationship with 3 persons for years, then I think it's strange to never touch each other. But then I wouldn't enter a relationship with a woman and another man, if it would bother me.

It's just my experience that during sex, your inhibitions are so low, you are so horny, that it doesn't really matter. But just like I said before, If I would be in a relationship like that for a long time having sex at the same time, the lines would blur a little. But then I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with a 100% strict lesbian, too many problems...
 

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This, right here, is the center of this and many other games major problem. In this one, the man is part of a relationship, where Keeley is the center figure. It isn't a common occurrence, but, it should be. Also, the TAG Lesbian is overused and there's no Bi-sexual TAG. That would avoid so many misunderstood roles in so many games.

Peace :)
Unfortunately whenever bi-sexual tag is used in porn, it implies a bisexual man getting it on with a man and a woman in the same scene. But on the other hand, if you also apply this tag for bisexual women, it kinda loses its meaning. What about foursomes and orgies? If you include "bisexual", how can you tell who is bisexual without knowing the context first? After all, porn has largely a male-dominated audience which is very averse to guy-on-guy action even if there's also a woman involved. If you tag group bisexual vids with "gay" as a warning for guy-on-guy sex, then it's not more accurate than a "lesbian" that implies girl-on-girl sex in a threesome with a guy if he ends up playing with both.
 
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Unfortunately whenever bi-sexual tag is used in porn, it implies a bisexual man getting it on with a man and a woman in the same scene. But on the other hand, if you also apply this tag for bisexual women, it kinda loses its meaning. What about foursomes and orgies? If you include "bisexual", how can you tell who is bisexual without knowing the context first? After all, porn has largely a male-dominated audience which is very averse to guy-on-guy action even if there's also a woman involved. If you tag group bisexual vids with "gay" as a warning for guy-on-guy sex, then it's not more accurate than a "lesbian" that implies girl-on-girl sex in a threesome with a guy if he ends up playing with both.
It's even worse with bisexual on pornhub for example, it's 9 out of 10, a gay man fucking another man, and that other man then fucking a woman.

I would suggest there is a big difference between one side of the spectrum and the other. I mean I wouldn't mind sucking a dick once, in such a situation. But I'm not gay in sense that I would love a man and want to kiss him and start a relationship with. But I'm also not that rigit, if I were to fuck a woman together with another male, I wouldn't want our legs to touch or so. There is a big difference in the mind between being horny and not. You also will not see me on a stupid pride boat with dildo's on my head, that's too degenerated.

But then in a one time 3some, I probably wouldn't be interested in sucking that man's dick. I just meant if in a relationship with 2 people for a long time, and everyone is horny, you will start to experiment. I need to find the first real lesbian, in relationship with a woman, and that woman with man, and fucking together always, and never having even touched his dick. Or he never even massaged her breasts or so. I can imagine having a preference, but it doesn't feel natural, to keep separated all the time.

But then that's just my opinion...

Having said that, I'm not in such a kind of relationship, never have been, difficult for me to imaginen, but after playing this game a long time ago, I started to think about it over time. The game is okay, makes you love the personages...
 
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I have yet to meet a porn or hentai site with tags that are accurate.

For example, most mainstream video sites tag lesbian videos as "straight sex". It's absolutely ridiculous, but they do it that way anyway. At this point I'm guessing they do it on purpose, who knows for what reason. It's very annoying.

It's a mess, but at least this forum has threads made by users to help find the content that the tags fail to identify well.
 

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I have yet to meet a porn or hentai site with tags that are accurate.

For example, most mainstream video sites tag lesbian videos as "straight sex". It's absolutely ridiculous, but they do it that way anyway. At this point I'm guessing they do it on purpose, who knows for what reason. It's very annoying.

It's a mess, but at least this forum has threads made by users to help find the content that the tags fail to identify well.
They do it to put more eyeballs on stuff, same reason why they put the wrong porn stars name on stuff as well!
 

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Considering Claryce is pure lesbian why would she let him touch her?

Speaking as a lesbian it just wouldn't happen. Even if I was to have a threesome with another couple my only interaction would be with the woman.

I think in this scenario it's better not to look as James as the head of the relationship. The women aren't there to "serve" him, rather Claryce and James are there just for Keeley.
Thank you, Avaron. For everyone else, this is my reason for the way Claryce acts with Keeley and James. I wanted Claryce to be a lesbian, not a porn star.

Tlaero
 

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Thank you, Avaron. For everyone else, this is my reason for the way Claryce acts with Keeley and James. I wanted Claryce to be a lesbian, not a porn star.

Tlaero
It's a porngame. We want to live out our fantasies.

I wonder if there are people living like this in real life...
 

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Unfortunately whenever bi-sexual tag is used in porn, it implies a bisexual man getting it on with a man and a woman in the same scene. But on the other hand, if you also apply this tag for bisexual women, it kinda loses its meaning. What about foursomes and orgies? If you include "bisexual", how can you tell who is bisexual without knowing the context first? After all, porn has largely a male-dominated audience which is very averse to guy-on-guy action even if there's also a woman involved. If you tag group bisexual vids with "gay" as a warning for guy-on-guy sex, then it's not more accurate than a "lesbian" that implies girl-on-girl sex in a threesome with a guy if he ends up playing with both.
Designed for the male gaze, not the male gays.

That does remind me of a badly titled porn clip saying "Lesbian eats creampie from girlfriend's pussy." Hmmm... Not likely.

In a thread for another game, people were talking about two lesbians inviting the male MC for a threesome.

Obviously, some people are a little misinformed on the term Lesbian.
Thank you, Avaron. For everyone else, this is my reason for the way Claryce acts with Keeley and James. I wanted Claryce to be a lesbian, not a porn star.

Tlaero
Hannibal: Have you ever had a threesome, Claryce?
It's a porngame. We want to live out our fantasies.

I wonder if there are people living like this in real life...
Last time I checked, it was an Adult Visual Novel.
 
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If you regard any of Tlaero's work as a 'porn game' then you're missing the point. It exists to tell a story in a visually pleasing way. If you want to play out your fantasies, you need to look elsewhere. There's no reason why you can't enjoy both though.
 
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I tried it and whilst I really liked the writing, certain aspects of the art really detracted from my being able to complete this. I would love to see the writer working with a different artist but as they've now made several games together, I sadly don't think this is likely to happen. As with another of their games, the breasts are incredibly badly done. It's not just about proportions but how they sit on the chest and how they defy gravity. The hair is another area where I believe the artist struggles and it's a shame because the faces are unique yet undeniably attractive. Also, speaking as a card-holding member of the L Club, characters having that much pubic hair (more bush than the Australian outback), is in my experience both rare and unrealistic (when there's obviously a lot of time spent on cunnilingus, excessive hair is very unwelcome for obvious reasons). I wish the devs good fortune with all their future endeavours but it would appear that their games seemingly aren't made for me.
 

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I tried it and whilst I really liked the writing, certain aspects of the art really detracted from my being able to complete this. I would love to see the writer working with a different artist but as they've now made several games together, I sadly don't think this is likely to happen. As with another of their games, the breasts are incredibly badly done. It's not just about proportions but how they sit on the chest and how they defy gravity. The hair is another area where I believe the artist struggles and it's a shame because the faces are unique yet undeniably attractive. Also, speaking as a card-holding member of the L Club, characters having that much pubic hair (more bush than the Australian outback), is in my experience both rare and unrealistic (when there's obviously a lot of time spent on cunnilingus, excessive hair is very unwelcome for obvious reasons). I wish the devs good fortune with all their future endeavours but it would appear that their games seemingly aren't made for me.
I may be misinformed, or biased, if so, I apologize beforehand.

It is my experience and by that I mean really close family, that a large majority of lesbians don't buy the hetero normative views of body hair. By this I mean, no armpit shave, no pubic hair shave (at most some taming, but some times no effort is made), no leg shaving. They not only don't care, from what I've been told, they even specifically enjoy it. Obviously, like almost anything, tastes vary. I don't think it is a hard requirement in their community (again, if I'm wrong, I apologize) but, it makes a lot more sense than ALL of them sporting bare pussies, shaved legs and bare armpits and so on (there's more places with hair on the woman body) considering that that specific practice is a male oriented beauty torture.

As a male that doesn't shave, detests cutting his hair, I have no problem with body hair. Actually, no, I have a problem against subjecting anyone to that torture in an effort to please ME. If a woman can't please me without grooming her body hair, does she really pleases me, or am I liking an illusion?

Why should Lesbians that have no interest in pleasing males, go to that trouble?

:: Steps down from the soap box ::

Peace :)
 

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I may be misinformed, or biased, if so, I apologize beforehand.

It is my experience and by that I mean really close family, that a large majority of lesbians don't buy the hetero normative views of body hair. By this I mean, no armpit shave, no pubic hair shave (at most some taming, but some times no effort is made), no leg shaving. They not only don't care, from what I've been told, they even specifically enjoy it. Obviously, like almost anything, tastes vary. I don't think it is a hard requirement in their community (again, if I'm wrong, I apologize) but, it makes a lot more sense than ALL of them sporting bare pussies, shaved legs and bare armpits and so on (there's more places with hair on the woman body) considering that that specific practice is a male oriented beauty torture.

As a male that doesn't shave, detests cutting his hair, I have no problem with body hair. Actually, no, I have a problem against subjecting anyone to that torture in an effort to please ME. If a woman can't please me without grooming her body hair, does she really pleases me, or am I liking an illusion?

Why should Lesbians that have no interest in pleasing males, go to that trouble?

:: Steps down from the soap box ::

Peace :)
Hmm, I think you might be confusing some feminists with lesbians, the two don't always go hand-in-hand (though often do). I would say that it's very much down to personal taste, so all I can really do is speak from personal experience and share the opinions of others that I've spoken to, which is, that we're attracted not just to females but to the feminine. Despite some modern takes on what that is (and it is something that will always be subjective and somewhat 'unattainable'), to many, that still includes taking pride and care over appearance (to varying degrees). Considering that nowadays it's very common for both gay and straight men to spend a lot of time on grooming and self care, why would it be different for women that are attracted to other women?

It really isn't a huge deal, I just commented that (in my experience and that of friends and former partners) I found it odd and out of place. That is by no means any indication of a larger trend or bias. And thank you for politely sharing your thoughts.
 
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