BurningSun

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Hi Gromanch69,

Thank you for reporting this. These shuold now all be fixed for the next version.
hey burning...can you get gangbanged while whoring?..if not u should add that eventually if u can love the game btw
buggzy313, Not at this time no. I will at some point!
maybe. id better download saves. but cannot spot.
k i temepered with that money amount ...so will not be raped and pimped by truck driver! ...

looks like i did something wrong... 90 days - no action excluidng f/f fingering ... i almost got into revealing photosessions...but got fired caz i had no option to agree to what other girl did o_o
Hi konabwo, Please remember this is a slow burn game, which many of you will call grindy, slow as f*** and all that kind of stuff. I want the game to be like that. If you want a game where you can be used and abused the first or second day of the game, try Young Maria for example.
My game is different and that could mean it is not something you like. If you want to keep going, here are a few tips and pieces of general info:
1) Each job has at least one set path Lizzy can follow and some more than one. For example, if Lizzy is working at the library, she will meet Zack and start camming for him at the library, or she could meet Willem and 'help' him at the archive. Both of these paths, will take time as they are designed to slowly lure Lizzy in.
2) Not everything is available at the start. Certain location can only be unlocked after a set number of days. The number of days depend on your difficulty setting. The easier the setting the quicker you can unlock them. Check the flyer board at the entrance of the hotel (after day 12+) and walk around the city from time to time (after day 12+) to unlock these locations. Also some locations will be unlocked by people during certain interactions.
3) Don't start buying stuff straight away. By some makeup and a map perhaps, but wait a little before going on a spending spree as Lizzy is not earning big bucks jet when she starts working.

If you have any questions, remarks or anything else, let me know. Good luck.
Hey!
Am I the only one who can't manage to find the Health Center? I found the flyer in the entrance, but that's it. I remember going there in previous versions, but seems impossible now. Any advices?
Gerold Hightower, The health club can be unlocked through:
1) finding a flyer in the city (walking to and from the Northern part of Amsterdam.
2) finding the flyer on the message board
3) during certain events e.g. meeting Raul at the club or getting a free voucher from Mo during the flower job route.

Please remember that 1 and 2 only can happen after day 17+ (exact day depends on diffictulty setting) easiest setting is day 17, hardest day 34.

Good luck.
Any news on next update? Its been almost a month since last activity
worldknower, Working hard on getting the BETA released end of this month.
laugh difficulty is broken in current ver
chrisdraconis, Could you please let me know what is broken?

Thanks
BurningSun
 
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Sunshine999

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I see few people mention a pregnancy system, but to by looking at Girls Life development that's a lot of effort with very little payout.

I'd rather see another job, another location, or another city (an exotic vacation maybe?).
 

Highland_Hunter

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I see few people mention a pregnancy system, *but to by looking at* Girls Life development that's a lot of effort with very little payout.

I'd rather see another job, another location, or another city (an exotic vacation maybe?).
" very little payout." I'm guessing the Pregnancy fetish, is not your kink, right ?

Well, to a few of US,(or more :p), we have been waiting years for that content.
So, it'll be more-than-likely, that we will determine how good the "payout" will be, when it's finally added.

Guess you'll just have to wait your turn for, " another job, another location, or another city " . . . or find another game, to play, while your waiting.;)

* do you not read your post before hitting the submit button, to see if it makes sense*
 

Surprise & Delight

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Hi @konabwo, Please remember this is a slow burn game, which many of you will call grindy, slow as f*** and all that kind of stuff. I want the game to be like that. If you want a game where you can be used and abused the first or second day of the game, try Young Maria for example.
This is my favorite part of the game. Some players seem to prefer that every single choice has a direct and immediate and obvious effect. There are plenty of point-and-click VNs if that's what you want, and there are other games on the other end of the spectrum.

Generally, I think that your game has a good, realistic pacing for Lizzy's character evolution. Yes, it means that some story lines take time to play out. Personally, I don't mind that at all. I much prefer it to the other common pattern of "get tricked into losing virginity (unpleasantly) on Day 1, becoming a cock-obsessed cum-dumpster on Day 2."

But to each their own, you like what you like ... you just can't expect one game to be a completely different game.
 
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DerekTheDestroyer

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Please remember this is a slow burn game, which many of you will call grindy, slow as f*** and all that kind of stuff. I want the game to be like that. If you want a game where you can be used and abused the first or second day of the game, try Young Maria for example.
The game IS extremely grindy, though. We don't say that to rip on the game or because of preferences, it's just a fact. And „grindy“ is rarely a positive. It's called grind for a reason. It chips away at you until there is nothing but dust left. That's not something you want when you are beating your meat. Slow and grindy are two very different things and this game is definitely the latter.
I get the idea of making a slower game but you really have to make the game more user friendly by reducing and limiting the grind. Allow us to miss work more often and don't make us lose a job forever. This is a porn game. I'm sure you can think of something to get the bosses to accept the MCs apologies. Additionally, you need way more scene variations for the jobs. Labeling the game as "slow" does not justify repeating the same scenes multiple times in a row until you reach the next stage the following week and the same thing happens again. That's just lazy design. Alternatively you could also have a work week be only 3 days. Even better when you allow the player to choose the 3 days of work freely. That would already help a lot with the amount of repetition. The real problem is still how much time has to pass before progress happens, though. Of course it would be boring to get to the raunchiest scenes immediately but there has to be a way to speed up the snail pace. Currently it's just not attractive to try different jobs and see what the game has to offer.
Also extend the library opening times. The game is set in a capital city and not some small hick town.
Then I remember there being something like a centre where you can take dance lessons(?) and other things only on the weekends (or just sunday) at very specific times. Or at least it was very inconvenient with the photography job. That is just super fucking annoying. Things like that should be available all week.

The grind is a legitimate problem with the game and not just a matter of preference.
 

chrisdraconis

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nm turns out clicking the difficulty option dosen't change the text to indicate that its set as the current difficulty, same thing happens for easy as well
 

BurningSun

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I see few people mention a pregnancy system, but to by looking at Girls Life development that's a lot of effort with very little payout.

I'd rather see another job, another location, or another city (an exotic vacation maybe?).
Hi Sunshine999, I understand your point of view. With the payout in GL, I'm guessing you mean actual content when being pregnant? It is indeed difficult and troublesome to code and to intertwine it all in the stories etc. But therein lies the interesting part for me. I like the challenge and I like the figuring-out-how-to-make-it-work-work. So it is coming for sure. Unfortunately not as quick as many would like I guess, but a lot of work is already in the game right now, but you can't see it as the pregnancy variables aren't active yet.
This will be the order for the next couple of releases (current plan, may change obviously):
V0.8.8.2 = Smaller update with one of the current jobs renewed and some other stuff. Renewed as in the same way like the library job; more stuff happening, not fired as quickly, more story etc.
V0.8.8.3 = Wardrobe. This version will only add the wardrobe functionality nothing else. It wont add all clothes to all different interactions and places yet, that will come later. First get the wardrobe working and fun
V0.8.8.4 - till V0.8.8.9 = not sure yet. Stuff :)
V0.8.9.0 - Pregnancy

In between all that, the release of the next location which is Paris. Don't expect a huge playable city like Amsterdam is now (Amsterdam is huge already) but expect a young Amsterdam, like when I first released it.

" very little payout." I'm guessing the Pregnancy fetish, is not your kink, right ?

Well, to a few of US,(or more :p), we have been waiting years for that content.
So, it'll be more-than-likely, that we will determine how good the "payout" will be, when it's finally added.

Guess you'll just have to wait your turn for, " another job, another location, or another city " . . . or find another game, to play, while your waiting.;)

* do you not read your post before hitting the submit button, to see if it makes sense*
Highland_Hunter, Don't worry, it is coming :D
This is my favorite part of the game. Some players seem to prefer that every single choice has a direct and immediate and obvious effect. There are plenty of point-and-click VNs if that's what you want, and there are other games on the other end of the spectrum.

Generally, I think that your game has a good, realistic pacing for Lizzy's character evolution. Yes, it means that some story lines take time to play out. Personally, I don't mind that at all. I much prefer it to the other common pattern of "get tricked into losing virginity (unpleasantly) on Day 1, becoming a cock-obsessed cum-dumpster on Day 2."

But to each their own, you like what you like ... you just can't expect one game to be a completely different game.
Surprise & Delight, Thank you for the nice post. Happy to see some agree with me :D
The game IS extremely grindy, though. We don't say that to rip on the game or because of preferences, it's just a fact. And „grindy“ is rarely a positive. It's called grind for a reason. It chips away at you until there is nothing but dust left. That's not something you want when you are beating your meat. Slow and grindy are two very different things and this game is definitely the latter.
I get the idea of making a slower game but you really have to make the game more user friendly by reducing and limiting the grind. Allow us to miss work more often and don't make us lose a job forever. This is a porn game. I'm sure you can think of something to get the bosses to accept the MCs apologies. Additionally, you need way more scene variations for the jobs. Labeling the game as "slow" does not justify repeating the same scenes multiple times in a row until you reach the next stage the following week and the same thing happens again. That's just lazy design. Alternatively you could also have a work week be only 3 days. Even better when you allow the player to choose the 3 days of work freely. That would already help a lot with the amount of repetition. The real problem is still how much time has to pass before progress happens, though. Of course it would be boring to get to the raunchiest scenes immediately but there has to be a way to speed up the snail pace. Currently it's just not attractive to try different jobs and see what the game has to offer.
Also extend the library opening times. The game is set in a capital city and not some small hick town.
Then I remember there being something like a centre where you can take dance lessons(?) and other things only on the weekends (or just sunday) at very specific times. Or at least it was very inconvenient with the photography job. That is just super fucking annoying. Things like that should be available all week.

The grind is a legitimate problem with the game and not just a matter of preference.
Hi DerekTheDestroyer,
Grindy is a term given too easily these days imo and it is subject to inflation. Let me elaborate: Wow vanilla is now called grindy or even super grindy by most. When it was released it was fine for most. This happens everywhere as people are getting used to instant rewards more and more. I'm not saying it is a good or bad thing. All I'm saying is that the term grind is subjective. Myself and a lot of others don't feel like my game is grindy at all, or feel like it is the right amount. Sure it could be a little easier at times and if you check the version history you will see that I've adjusted it a lot already over time. Compare the first version with the current and you'll be in for a treat.

Anyway, I get what you are saying and I'm always open to suggestions, so suggest stuff :)

Some comments on things you've said below:
1)Allow us to miss work more often; If you've played the new Library job, you should notice that this is now possible. You can come late many times (even more if you help Patricia out once in a while) and you can continue work even if you don't meet certain requirements. Actually skipping work stayed the same I know. But sorry, skipping work can never be a valid choice in my book. However after writing this, I've increased it with one time for the library (the rest to be adjusted over time).
2)If your relationship is high enough you can now also get your library job back if you left on your own - not when you got fired. So more easy stuff right there :)
3) More scene variation has been added to the new library job. Want more? Give me solid ideas to add. Work IS boring, and there is no pretty way around that. If you want me to write approximately 60 variations for all the workdays that are currently repetitive, than I have to say sorry, but not going to happen. Sure call me lazy, but then you are calling ALL creators here lazy. I'd say make a game yourself and then you'll see it has nothing to do with being lazy. In what game on this site is work not repetitive? All of them. Some will have more variations then others sure, but they stay boring as you can only come up with so much. I believe the new library job is now pretty solid and the next version should give the next job a lot of variation as well.
4) Deciding when to work is a nice idea, but coding wise a nightmare I'm afraid.
5) Library open longer? It is currently open from 08-21. This is longer than most libraries in Amsterdam right now.
6) Yeah the dance school needs rework I agree.

Hope the above helps you to understand my point of view and that I'm always trying to add QOL additions to the game.
nm turns out clicking the difficulty option dosen't change the text to indicate that its set as the current difficulty, same thing happens for easy as well
might want to work on the text format as some lines are extending behind the stat box instead of wrapping to the next line
Hi chrisdraconis, Thanks for getting back to me. Found the issue regarding the difficulty setting and fixed for the next version. I've not found the issue with the text. All text should automatically wrap and I've never had any issues on whatever device I'm playing. Could you show me some examples?

Cheers
BurningSun
 

gemstar

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Oct 21, 2020
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Henry seems to be stuck at "Back soon" for a very long time after I learned Bibi's secret. Is it a bug, or one of my stats is preventing the progression? I'm playing as a florist, and my stats are currently these:

Desire 115
Intellect 33
Hygiene 100
Health 76
Energy 100
Looks 56
Reputation 8
Fitness 16
Morale 100
Luck 81
Self defense 4
Dignity 71
Liberal 59
 

fzdudesome

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V0.8.8.2 = Smaller update with one of the current jobs renewed and some other stuff. Renewed as in the same way like the library job; more stuff happening, not fired as quickly, more story etc.


Any idea when the next release might be ready? I've had an urge to re-download this for another playthrough, but if that small update you mentioned is on the way soon I'd rather hold off.
 

Sunshine999

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" very little payout." I'm guessing the Pregnancy fetish, is not your kink, right ?

Well, to a few of US,(or more :p), we have been waiting years for that content.
So, it'll be more-than-likely, that we will determine how good the "payout" will be, when it's finally added.

Guess you'll just have to wait your turn for, " another job, another location, or another city " . . . or find another game, to play, while your waiting.;)
Hey there! Sorry I wasn't too mindful about kinks etc, and I apologise for that.

When I wrote that post I was just a bit concerned because I've seen quite few projects where that specific feature caused a lot of burnout, but in this case the author is way better than the norm. :)

Hi @Sunshine999, I understand your point of view. With the payout in GL, I'm guessing you mean actual content when being pregnant? It is indeed difficult and troublesome to code and to intertwine it all in the stories etc. But therein lies the interesting part for me. I like the challenge and I like the figuring-out-how-to-make-it-work-work. So it is coming for sure. Unfortunately not as quick as many would like I guess, but a lot of work is already in the game right now, but you can't see it as the pregnancy variables aren't active yet.
Thanks for your reply. I am glad you've got an idea of how Pregnancy can be difficult to insert into an existing project, and it's comforting to know you've got a plan!

In between all that, the release of the next location which is Paris. Don't expect a huge playable city like Amsterdam is now (Amsterdam is huge already) but expect a young Amsterdam, like when I first released it.
Wow, that's quite a teaser. :)
 

fzdudesome

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If you're going to make a game "slow", at least add a good cheat menu for those who don't. Best of both worlds
There IS a cheat menu. Hit F12. Do a search in this thread for "cheat" and you'll find instructions, but essentially you can change any variable.
 

SunHouseRock

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There IS a cheat menu. Hit F12. Do a search in this thread for "cheat" and you'll find instructions, but essentially you can change any variable.
I did and I tried it but couldn't find it nor figure it out. When I was born I rolled Boomer on tech skills, even with search I couldn't find the specific line of code to change, and that was only for the money
edit: Found the cheat mod but not the f12 menu
 
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fzdudesome

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https://f95zone.to/threads/how-to-debug-or-cheat-twine-sugarcube-variables.6553/
I use firefox, so my description might not be exactly the same. Basically you hit F12 and a window pops up. From there, you should see tabs at the top (Inspector, Console, Debugger, etc.) You wanna hit Console. Then in the main window space you should see >>, which indicates where you can click to begin typing. There you wanna type SugarCube.State.variables before any variable you want to change. For example, type SugarCube.State.variables.Cash = 10000, then hit enter. Somewhere in this huge thread is a list of commands, but it should literally pop up options as you type. This process has been described better by other people way back in this thread, so search "sugarcube" in this thread for specifics.

Note that this IS CASE SENSITIVE. SugarCube and State must be uppercase, variables must be lowercase, etc.
 
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