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fortuna95

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It was good game til ~0.5, but it's somehow boring the last 2-3 updates. Nothing special story and the same dumb questions and behaviour from MC and Mary. I hope there is some (lewd) action in future (with Andy and Ex), otherwise this game can be ended.
 

weaselman

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Wait. Are people thinking MC has autism (on the spectrum) or something? Reading way too deep into the story to think that.
tbh the MC calls himself lightly autistic at some point and andi nearly calls you out on it

also his speech was always a bit rigid and to the point, also the whole routine thing

so yeah, I think the MC is on the spectrum but only just
 

KyoriKusagami

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I played this last update, but I didn't see anything negative about Mary, when she asks MC "How it ends", for me, she asking MC how he is serious about their relationship or how he imagine their relationship in the future, like for example, he getting old with her and raising a child or not, it's just a fun moment. So, maybe the MC answer can define a possible ending of the game(relationship) and if there is some bad ending, it's linked with the ex-girlfriend(or Vanessa maybe) where he accepts her seduction and somehow Mary discovers his betrayal. I played both routes(Just Mary and threesome).

PS.: Guys, It's just my theory based on my gameplay
 

jamdan

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Mary is going to be abducted by her mom, locked away in a tower and MC will have to save her. And then its happily ever after.

But seriously, I do think the "fairy tale ending" thing would lead me to believe its a happy ending. thats what a fairy tale ending is.
 
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lgarthy

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I'm 4 hours in and really like it. Now the creepiness factor is increasing and the sex is happening. So far, awesome game.
 
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JohnSheridan

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I'm confused about the choice to let her got out or not in the last update. Why wouldn't you let her go out with her friends?
When you let her go out she comes back upset which is fine but the next day 'you' are in a mood for some reason and she thinks it is because she went out and says she won't do it again. If you don't let her go out it is almost the same out come. It is confusing why this would be a problem. Mary doesn't have to spend every waking moment with the MC. She has her own life as well.
 

Segnbora

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It was a strangely scripted scene that I assume had a stat consequence (I didn't look at the game scripts to check) but didn't make a whole lot of sense just kinda orphaned near the end of the update. Here's where his non-communicative nature could potentially bite him in the ass, because there are many moments related to that choice where she could benefit from some reassurance from the MC, and he really doesn't offer her any. If you take the ex up on her invitation, it's even dicier.
 
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Here's where his non-communicative nature could potentially bite him in the ass, because there are many moments related to that choice where she could benefit from some reassurance from the MC, and he really doesn't offer her any.
I get the feeling this is going to continue being a source of tension until it gets to the point where he either has to start being more open with her or lose her. It would be some nice character development for a MC severely lacking in it at least.
 

TheKryptonian

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I get the feeling this is going to continue being a source of tension until it gets to the point where he either has to start being more open with her or lose her.
Or she could just realize that's who the MC is and just accept it. Or try to "change" him which will only bring about negative consequences for her relationship with him.
 

TheKryptonian

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I'm confused about the choice to let her got out or not in the last update. Why wouldn't you let her go out with her friends?
When you let her go out she comes back upset which is fine but the next day 'you' are in a mood for some reason and she thinks it is because she went out and says she won't do it again. If you don't let her go out it is almost the same out come. It is confusing why this would be a problem. Mary doesn't have to spend every waking moment with the MC. She has her own life as well.
My guess is the cannon story is that the MC's ex cheated on him, so she is just being super sensitive to not give the MC anything to worry about.
 
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Or she could just realize that's who the MC is and just accept it. Or try to "change" him which will only bring about negative consequences for her relationship with him.
The relationship is frankly not very healthy right now. While the MC does love her he comes off as being somewhat emotionally detached because of his inability to communicate. From a realistic point of view their relationship is doomed in the long run if he can't start being more open with her. There is a reason he has struggled with relationships in the past.
 

TheKryptonian

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The relationship is frankly not very healthy right now. While the MC does love her he comes off as being somewhat emotionally detached because of his inability to communicate. From a realistic point of view their relationship is doomed in the long run if he can't start being more open with her. There is a reason he has struggled with relationships in the past.
Whats that old saying? A zebra cant change its stripes?

I guess a big slice of doom is on the menu...
 

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I get the feeling this is going to continue being a source of tension until it gets to the point where he either has to start being more open with her or lose her. It would be some nice character development for a MC severely lacking in it at least.
The game has been remarkably free of conflict unless the player invites it. I don't mean there hasn't been any — certainly there's been a fair bit with Mary's parents, both between them and with regard to the MC and Mary's relationship — but with pretty much anything else the player has had to make the "wrong" decision to initiate it.

This would, indeed, be an interesting source of future conflict and growth. The MC has changed Mary. Can Mary change the MC? In a relationship crisis, can he change for her? Again, I have absolutely no way of knowing if that's how the game is going to go, but it would be fertile narrative territory.

Having thought a lot about the future possibilities (and still stopping every few minutes to do Numfar's "yes he's on the spectrum" Dance of Joy...a reference that will only make sense to Angel fans) I'm starting to think that while I'd prefer to see the MC and Mary make a go of it, I think I'd respect the story logic more if they couldn't. I won't disrespect the story if they survive and flourish, but pretty much everyone but Simone is telling the MC that he and Mary are doomed.

Now, it's true that Simone understands Mary better than anyone else in the game (including the MC), but Simone and Mary are also playing a slightly dangerous game in which Simone has a lot of emotional and sexual control over Mary, and it's not clear that the MC is always a consideration in the M/S relationship.

Again, all purely speculative and very possibly misguided. But intriguing.
 
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Whats that old saying? A zebra cant change its stripes?

I guess a big slice of doom is on the menu...
Except it has been proven over and over that people can change.

Having thought a lot about the future possibilities (and still stopping every few minutes to do Numfar's "yes he's on the spectrum" Dance of Joy...a reference that will only make sense to Angel fans) I'm starting to think that while I'd prefer to see the MC and Mary make a go of it, I think I'd respect the story logic more if they couldn't. I won't disrespect the story if they survive and flourish, but pretty much everyone but Simone is telling the MC that he and Mary are doomed.
Still think it is going too far to say he is on the spectrum. Lacking social skills does not automatically mean he is autistic. Could be a lack of socializing as a kid that left him underdeveloped. Could be anxiety. There are many things besides autism that causes social awkwardness.
 
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TheKryptonian

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The game has been remarkably free of conflict unless the player invites it. I don't mean there hasn't been any — certainly there's been a fair bit with Mary's parents, both between them and with regard to the MC and Mary's relationship — but with pretty much anything else the player has had to make the "wrong" decision to initiate it.

This would, indeed, be an interesting source of future conflict and growth. The MC has changed Mary. Can Mary change the MC? In a relationship crisis, can he change for her? Again, I have absolutely no way of knowing if that's how the game is going to go, but it would be fertile narrative territory.

Having thought a lot about the future possibilities (and still stopping every few minutes to do Numfar's "yes he's on the spectrum" Dance of Joy...a reference that will only make sense to Angel fans) I'm starting to think that while I'd prefer to see the MC and Mary make a go of it, I think I'd respect the story logic more if they couldn't. I won't disrespect the story if they survive and flourish, but pretty much everyone but Simone is telling the MC that he and Mary are doomed.

Now, it's true that Simone understands Mary better than anyone else in the game (including the MC), but Simone and Mary are also playing a slightly dangerous game in which Simone has a lot of emotional and sexual control over Mary, and it's not clear that the MC is always a consideration in the M/S relationship.

Again, all purely speculative and very possibly misguided. But intriguing.
As you say its the players fault if things go south for Mary and MC (possibly Simone)... at least I hope so.

I am probably jaded because of other games blindsiding you with some seemingly harmless choice early on in the game turning out to be the linchpin in a good or bad ending. Its a weak way of deciding how hours of gameplay comes to a conclusion but it has happened in alot of these games... at least from my experience.
 

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I'm not particularly worried about that in this game, because I can't remember a single instance in which Ptolemy was "unfair" to the player (I know less about the rest of the team), but I don't know that choosing to have a threesome with Simone would be "blindsiding" the player if it ends in Mary and the MC parting ways. It was always a dangerous idea — Mary isn't emotionally or sexually mature enough to be blithely offering threesomes — and putting porn game logic aside the risks are pretty clear.

It happens so casually that it's hard to keep focus on it, but Simone essentially has no home or family life and has worked her way into Mary and the MC's lives pretty efficiently and effectively. She more or less "moves in" with the MC and Mary from the start, she's keeping clothes there, she's never unavailable for whatever spur-of-the-moment activity is on the agenda (even overnights and trips), and when it comes to sex she...well, if you've played the most recent update, you can see her somewhat aggressive and semi-dominant personality w/r/t Mary coming to the fore. I absolutely don't think she has evil designs, and I don't think she's trying to break them up or steal either Mary or the MC, but she's a person with her own needs and desires. Letting her get that close might not have been the ideal choice.

Still purely speculative, of course.
 

lgarthy

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I was thinking that the game was going to end up with BOTH Mary and Simone pregnant. It seems that the game is hinting at that.
 
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