rambo25

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Cheers, glad you liked it. Update's under development, every Wednesday I put up a progress report on Patreon, Subscribestar and Discord, and that's usually mirrored here within a few days as well.
Cant wat for it.thanks for your effort and also for the different look of characters.
 
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Dragon59

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I miss those days.
Let me amend that--I sometimes miss those days. What I would want is better story telling in the porn we get now. Sort of like in Light of my Life!
Oh God, that creates a horrible image in my mind. I'm on the younger side so I've always known RJ as the fat creepy looking guy, definitely not who I would want for a father/son sharing scene :LOL:.
As alluded to earlier, in his youth, he was limber enough (and long enough) that he fellate himself.

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Don't agree with you, and even less when you say "MM" group sex is very popular, if I know something is that there are many fetishes people hate (again including myself) MM is probably one of those, that goes with sharing and many others fetishes that involve a 3rd party (unless is mc and 2 girls).
Now you can use whatever term to define those people in which I include myself, but it won't change any time soon and for that, I'm very glad.

To put an example, in this game, there is some kind of "sisterly sharing" (between the mcs daughters) and even just that have some people avoiding the game, I'm not that radical and that is something I tolerate in a game but many others don't even accept that much, so nope.
In webs like pornhub or things like that where the content is real porn, people may not give a fuck what they watch since they may want just some fapping and be done with it... when it comes to games people can get attached to the LI, etc and they will be pickier about the content and fetishes.

And in this game where "Romance" is mostly the whole concept of the game and plot, is even less fitting mixing such content though nowadays some devs don't really care and mix some genres that should never go in the same game.
It's popular, trust me, people who hate it are just hate it a ton and are super loud about it. I've done enough informal surveillance. Not gonna write a thesis about it but people who hate MM Sex really hate it and want everyone to know they hate it. People who like it aren't as vocal because it's probably just one of many things they like. I'm not expecting any such content in this game and that wasn't really my point, it was just a side point to the reply as a whole.

Also, I'm not talking about people who just go about their day and skip games with MM group content or ask if it's skippable. There are plently of devs who have been harassed for having MM group content in their games, most of which aren't romance games. I assume you're not the type of person going around harassing devs or others over MM content but surely you can't say you haven't seen any of that activity on this site before the mods delete it...

My previous LTR and I joked in our first years together that we'd have to start dating others in order to retain our Polyamory membership card. :giggle: My very first relationship was part of a MFM "v" relationship. That probably helped shape my own attitude about "sharing."

Because my sister was five years younger, I really didn't have much interaction with her boyfriends, just her husband, and he wasn't very sociable with family.

Since these games treat sisters as LIs, more apropos would be my girlfriends' boyfriends, in the case of pre-existing relationships, I felt it was important to be friends with them, in the case of new boyfriends, I usually encouraged their exploration. So I expect even if I was a "pervy brother," I'd still not hate my sister's boyfriends without cause.

Definitely, there's a lot of misogyny in the historic institution of marriage. People often like to point out that we are more closely related to bonobo chimpanzees than Pan. Regarding religious aspects, one reason I walked away from the RCC at 13 was the official attitude toward women ("the only way to grace for a woman was through a man" Blech).

I looked at them as a rather kinky Triple Goddess, Maiden/Mother/Crone. These other triples are pretty good as well.

You understand the -andry and -gyny suffixes! :love:

Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander.

I only know personally of one incestuous family. The family of a friend of a partner's friend. The kids were very close in age, and when they were young and curious, they mutually experimented. The mother decided not to stigmatize it and it's just something they did when they were younger. It did not get in the way of finding partners later in life. No apparent PTSD about it. I think because there was no power dynamics, the biggest individual danger. That's one thing NR is working hard to avoid--the father/patron is not trying to use his status to corrupt/break the girls.

I've never had incestual thoughts about my mother, or daughter (a little for a step cousin who'd been added to the family in our teens). To me, the incest plotlines are just a way to increase tension and move the story along. I've long felt that the step-incest trend in modern porn is more about how to skimp on sets and story--you don't have to explain why so much of the story takes place in a single house, or deal with getting the people to know each other. That said, LoML seems to break away from the usual fare, in that the characters actually have a back story and they aren't rushing to bed as a shortcut.

Since I've never actually had a FMF threesome with me in the center, I like to fantasize about those, but since my common experiences have been MFM with my partner in the center, I wouldn't mind them for a bit of familiar reality.
That's interesting that you know an actual family that's engaged in incest. I always tell myself I wouldn't judge anyone if I found out they did it but never been tested on that hypothetical lol. It would be cool to get into an actual poly or open relationship but that's not even the part of relationships that bugs me, it's relinquishing control of aspects of your life which I find off-putting. Also super into research into the Pan family, and where we are similar and different to each of the two branches.

I don't know enough about neopaganism to make a direct comparisons to the office trio. If I ever get into that mythology I'd be glad to make them though.

Also it would be cool to have a game with a female protagonist where she effectively assembles a male harem lol. I have an idea for something like that but I would want it to be drawn in an anime style and I definitely don't have the skills for that. So for now it stays in my head, lol.

Quite the discussion here regarding potential jealousy of siblings with their SO's, growing up an only child those concepts are completely foreign to me, kinda why bro/sis games don't really do much for me lol.

I think the vast majority of gamers that steer toward the incest genre tend to enjoy it due to the taboo, storytelling elements, and some other subconscious factors that don't point to blatantly wanting it in reality. As I touched on an earlier page, personally I like them cause it's an indulgence and coping mechanism for my own personal circumstances on familial issues. Being adopted, I'm not blood related to my family, but I still embrace as if they were blood, having no such desires for them(except innocent crush on older cousin when I was younger lol). This has made me even more consciously protective of familial bonds, cherishing the healthy ones and trying my best to keep family together. Therefore, incest games tap into my ideal desire for an unbreakable family bond, lovers and friends may disappear, but family will always be there.

Regarding the whole MFM controversy, I see no issue with it so long as it's consensual and doesn't have humiliation elements. Then again, I'm a weirdo who kinda wishes there were more incest games with MFM or MMFF, I dislike how many games depict fathers and sons as rival competition rather than partners in crime. It tends to mesh well with the "strengthen family bond" message I wrote above, except it would be exemplified by a father and son fist bumping as they share LI's :ROFLMAO:.

Edit: Also can't wait for the next update, the progress picture gives me hope!
I don't like incest games because I find the relationships relatable, I just enjoy taboo situations in general. I'm into any media that explores the edges of human behavior, erotic or not. Like earlier in the thread when some people were complaining about the sleep sex scene despite the direct allegory and ample foreshadowing, I was all for it. I especially like seeing [fiction about] people without any form of antisocial pathologies pushed to engage in antisocial behaviors.

It's understandable why people with antisocial disorders engage in those behaviors, but seeing fully socialized people fight against their own doubts and socialization, watching them be condition by others to let their inhibitions fall away, becoming entangled in a shared delusion or alternate moral framework, it's a fascinating process and awesome to see when done well (like with our diabolically naïve Denise and guilt-ridden Macy). Like what's cool in this story in particular is the way Denise's supposed naïveté informs her conditioning of her "housemates", and the MC and Macy's guilt, loneliness, and grief render them extremely open to suggestion. She engages in and pushes Macy to engage in clearly antisocial behaviors, but is it out of learned or acquired antisocial tendencies or incomplete socialization? It seems she has an incomplete picture of social views on sexual norms and what comprises full consent. Or maybe she has a complete view of the normative framework and has found an alternate framework that better suits her worldview and goals for those around her. Are we born good, and corrupter by the world around us, or are we born selfish, and reigned in by societal norms? She's a great vehicle for an ontological parsing of the fundament nature of human morality and the role of socialization in shaping it, and the analogous relationship of the story with the tale of Lot and all the moral questions therein creates more angles from which to analyze it.

Sorry for the wall of text, I just really like the aspects of the story that lend to analysis and get into them when I can without repeating myself, which is hard at this point lol. But yea, I too would like more content where members of a family work together to seduce others, the son vs. father or father figure dynamic is interesting but played out, and it would create some interesting group opportunities as well. There are other places to search for antagonistic forces in the plot.
 

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popular, trust me, people who hate it are just hate it a ton and are super loud about it. I've done enough informal surveillance. Not gonna write a thesis about it but people who hate MM Sex really hate it and want everyone to know they hate it. People who like it aren't as vocal because it's probably just one of many things they like. I'm not expecting any such content in this game and that wasn't really my point, it was just a side point to the reply as a whole.

Also, I'm not talking about people who just go about their day and skip games with MM group content or ask if it's skippable. There are plently of devs who have been harassed for having MM group content in their games, most of which aren't romance games. I assume you're not the type of person going around harassing devs or others over MM content but surely you can't say you haven't seen any of that activity on this site before the mods delete it...
As i said before, it may be popular in real porn but not in games, people don't like sharing the Li's unless they like ntr. I myself don't like any type of sharing and even less that other fetish. I doubt very much what you say but everyone is free to believe what they want. And you just have to go to the most popular games, none of those have such fetishes...and the ones that usually get less support are those that have such kinks like the one you implied is "popular". In any case is absurd to talk about this because if I know something about Naughty is that it will never happen in this game, so no point arguing about this.(y)
 

Dragon59

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Good to see your deep thoughts, my philosophical, anthropological comrade-in-arms! It was not surprised to see you got a facepalm from someone with "newbie" status. It goes with the territory whenever we delve into such territory.
It's popular, trust me, people who hate it are just hate it a ton and are super loud about it. I've done enough informal surveillance. Not gonna write a thesis about it but people who hate MM Sex really hate it and want everyone to know they hate it. People who like it aren't as vocal because it's probably just one of many things they like. I'm not expecting any such content in this game and that wasn't really my point, it was just a side point to the reply as a whole.
I expect avoiding the inevitable backlash from those vocal so-called alphas, is another factor.
Also, I'm not talking about people who just go about their day and skip games with MM group content or ask if it's skippable. There are plently of devs who have been harassed for having MM group content in their games, most of which aren't romance games. I assume you're not the type of person going around harassing devs or others over MM content but surely you can't say you haven't seen any of that activity on this site before the mods delete it...
Exactly. Many feel we're living in a "megalophonocracy" where the loudest rules. (Greek megalofonos, loud)
That's interesting that you know an actual family that's engaged in incest. I always tell myself I wouldn't judge anyone if I found out they did it but never been tested on that hypothetical lol.
Yes, it seems like it was just adolescent experimentation and didn't become pathological.
It would be cool to get into an actual poly or open relationship but that's not even the part of relationships that bugs me, it's relinquishing control of aspects of your life which I find off-putting. Also super into research into the Pan family, and where we are similar and different to each of the two branches.
Yes, to do well in polyamory, one des need to let go of the need to have absolute control and predictability in one's relationships. In my own case, my long-time "nesting partner" decided she wanted to live with her other boyfriend in a "household of two," though she still loves me and we're trying to figure out what shape the future might take.
I don't know enough about neopaganism to make a direct comparisons to the office trio. If I ever get into that mythology I'd be glad to make them though.
Triple deities/triun deities seem to pop up all across world history, but yes, my own familiarity comes from neopaganism.
Also it would be cool to have a game with a female protagonist where she effectively assembles a male harem lol. I have an idea for something like that but I would want it to be drawn in an anime style and I definitely don't have the skills for that. So for now it stays in my head, lol.
One that is about her power and confidence, not corruption. I like it. Of course, you or any developer who made such a work would have to be ready for the onslaught. "The slings and arrows of outrageous 'alphas.'"

In fact, in many polyamorous communities, it is the woman who hold much of the power and opportunity. I've heard a few men complain that it wasn't what they expected. This is especially true of the newly poly couples. The wife finds a candy store of opportunities (especially if she is bisexual), while has to suffer with only one or two other partners.
I don't like incest games because I find the relationships relatable, I just enjoy taboo situations in general. I'm into any media that explores the edges of human behavior, erotic or not. Like earlier in the thread when some people were complaining about the sleep sex scene despite the direct allegory and ample foreshadowing, I was all for it. I especially like seeing [fiction about] people without any form of antisocial pathologies pushed to engage in antisocial behaviors.

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Sorry for the wall of text, I just really like the aspects of the story that lend to analysis and get into them when I can without repeating myself, which is hard at this point lol. But yea, I too would like more content where members of a family work together to seduce others, the son vs. father or father figure dynamic is interesting but played out, and it would create some interesting group opportunities as well. There are other places to search for antagonistic forces in the plot.
I expect a number of us are in that place--it's not an interest in incest per se, but the exploration of the taboo and alternative ways of looking at society's standards. I did have to pause a little at your use of "anti-social." I had to see it as you talking about what mainstream society considers "anti-social," against the norms of society, as opposed to what the DSM V would define as anti-social. As a polyamorous neopagan with a toe in LGBTQIA+, I've seen how society wants to paint any "deviation from the norm" as anti-social.

Regarding the sleep sex--yes, in some ways, it feels a bit different than the classic scenario in these games. Yes, they are taking advantage of him, and the scene was pretty much required from the symbolic narrative. As with Lot's daughters, the primary motivation isn't to satisfy their own prurient drives, but doing so out of love and concern for their father (figure).

Unless one if talking about the corruption and mind control (pathological) cases, these characters could be seen as "the new libertine front." This is a good way to see the Haranson family--they are defining love and family for themselves. They are letting go of their fears about what society says is proper.

Apologies to anyone disliking that I turned Yoyomistro's wall of text into a great wall of text, but there were so many tasty tidbits in it!
 
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