jestertlw

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There are patrons, so not 100% free. "Fast" would be like every month. A year is more like "glacial." Average on here is about every 2 -3 months. One of my favorites it every 2 weeks. Some I don't play show up I swear once a week or more.
Right. I just realized which threads I have seen you from, previously. I doubt this game is for you.

This game is 100% free for anyone. The game was free before people started donated on patreon and the developer has stated they would continue the game even if people stopped donating. No one pays a penny to play this game and the developer expects no money. It is free to play.

You are known to complain if a game takes longer than two months to update - thinking it should be given the "abandoned" tag even when a dev is active in the thread. And I know of whom you are referencing about the developer that takes about 2 weeks between updates - they can, but their updates are much less content and their writing is middle school humor (at best) and use very simple backgrounds and models. This game has highly stylized models and backgrounds with writing that is well conceived, deliberate, and follow a well-defined story arc with the last update - alone - being at least 3 hours or so of playtime, if you aren't just skipping ahead through content.

You are comparing cranberries to pineapples.

 

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Well here we go I'm probably going to get booted again but I am going to give MY thoughts on the update/game at this state and probably ignore the replays of the toxic fanbase.
I love the story, renders and overall concept. Yes girls are ugly but that is exactly what gives the game its charm and separates it from the cookie cutter games seen on this site. When I found the game I couldn't stop playing it sometimes even skipping over content (office trolls) just to get to main char content a bit faster. The bathroom and couch scenes were superb the computer project scene GODLY! Liked the museum visit as well. I screamed more more more! Then it came to a screeching halt with a vacation BS update but I did not lose hope, keep playing they will eventually go back home. Wait 10 months for an update and WTF!!!!! All the dev did is cut and paste bathroom, couch and computer scenes for the girl I actually care about and added an H scene for the older hag. And it took him 10 months (2500 hours) for all that lol. Slow clap...
 

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Well here we go I'm probably going to get booted again but I am going to give MY thoughts on the update/game at this state and probably ignore the replays of the toxic fanbase.
I love the story, renders and overall concept. Yes girls are ugly but that is exactly what gives the game its charm and separates it from the cookie cutter games seen on this site. When I found the game I couldn't stop playing it sometimes even skipping over content (office trolls) just to get to main char content a bit faster. The bathroom and couch scenes were superb the computer project scene GODLY! Liked the museum visit as well. I screamed more more more! Then it came to a screeching halt with a vacation BS update but I did not lose hope, keep playing they will eventually go back home. Wait 10 months for an update and WTF!!!!! All the dev did is cut and paste bathroom, couch and computer scenes for the girl I actually care about and added an H scene for the older hag. And it took him 10 months (2500 hours) for all that lol. Slow clap...
Yeah, we're the toxic ones because we drag you in here to complain just so that we can rebut your claims -- and tell you to insult the other people in here while you disregard the thread guidelines as noted in the OP as we pull you in, screaming and kicking.

You should get together with the guy who has stated he doesn't like your favorite character and gets angry that she gets too much screen time over his favorite character. Also, speaking of your favorite girl - I seem to recall in this update her getting a little action (not penetration, but a "come from behind" climax) that was pretty hot. And if you have played from Chapter 1, you should see why - as the eldest - Macy gets first dibs. It's been foreshadowed since the opening scene.
 

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Right. I just realized which threads I have seen you from, previously. I doubt this game is for you.

This game is 100% free for anyone. The game was free before people started donated on patreon and the developer has stated they would continue the game even if people stopped donating. No one pays a penny to play this game and the developer expects no money. It is free to play.

You are known to complain if a game takes longer than two months to update - thinking it should be given the "abandoned" tag even when a dev is active in the thread. And I know of whom you are referencing about the developer that takes about 2 weeks between updates - they can, but their updates are much less content and their writing is middle school humor (at best) and use very simple backgrounds and models. This game has highly stylized models and backgrounds with writing that is well conceived, deliberate, and follow a well-defined story arc with the last update - alone - being at least 3 hours or so of playtime, if you aren't just skipping ahead through content.

You are comparing cranberries to pineapples.

Seriously? Lifeplay is a whole new way of playing and adds lots of new content every time - on the 8th, 18th and 28th of every month. I do skip through yakking. There are better models. 2-3 months is one thing, 6 sometimes acceptable, but 1 year completely unacceptable. Like WTF? I'll be dead before it's completed. I'm older and not in good health at all. 2-3 months is average. It would be better to be more often with not as much content so it can be remembered. Every week is ridiculous, but so is every year.
 

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Seriously? Lifeplay is a whole new way of playing and adds lots of new content every time - on the 8th, 18th and 28th of every month. I do skip through yakking. There are better models. 2-3 months is one thing, 6 sometimes acceptable, but 1 year completely unacceptable. Like WTF? I'll be dead before it's completed. I'm older and not in good health at all. 2-3 months is average. It would be better to be more often with not as much content so it can be remembered. Every week is ridiculous, but so is every year.
I will agree that 2-3 months is average (though I do not know if that is actually the case - I have never seen any supporting evidence). There are a lot of variables involved. Some games take longer, some shorter - and, therefore, the meaning of average. This one takes longer, where as you follow another game that takes 3 times per month. If I calculate the average of the length of time for this update to LOML (1 year, to round it out) with the game you mentioned (3x per month) ... that comes out to 3 months, and so they average each other out.

I don't know if the game you mention creates models or if it is mostly players with slider customizations on a 2ndlife/Sims framework - but from what I am seeing in the screenshots on its page, I stand by my thinking you are comparing cranberries to pineapples.

I am older, myself. In fact you will find a lot of us "old timers" (GenX and older) as fans of this game. I can't say what ages LarryK, Miðgarðsormr and Dragon59 are - but I'm over 50, and I think I'm the young one of the bunch.

Again, I doubt this game is for you based upon your expectations for updates and that you "skip through yakking." The first update was the shortest cycle at 3 months and I don't think that the developer would be able to match that without story suffering. I could be wrong - but I'd rather be wrong on the long side, rather than the short.

(EDIT) This is more an adult kinetic visual novel that happens to have sex than a porn that has a decision tree. A lot of the sex in this game is story-driven with Brooke's sex scenes probably least story-driven at this time. The Weird Sisters are quite driven by story, and Denise & Macy is darn near pure story-driven (both with the MC and with themselves).
 
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I will agree that 2-3 months is average (though I do not know if that is actually the case - I have never seen any supporting evidence). There are a lot of variables involved. Some games take longer, some shorter - and, therefore, the meaning of average. This one takes longer, where as you follow another game that takes 3 times per month. If I calculate the average of the length of time for this update to LOML (1 year, to round it out) with the game you mentioned (3x per month) ... that comes out to 3 months, and so they average each other out.

I don't know if the game you mention creates models or if it is mostly players with slider customizations on a 2ndlife/Sims framework - but from what I am seeing in the screenshots on its page, I stand by my thinking you are comparing cranberries to pineapples.

I am older, myself. In fact you will find a lot of us "old timers" (GenX and older) as fans of this game. I can't say what ages LarryK, Miðgarðsormr and Dragon59 are - but I'm over 50, and I think I'm the young one of the bunch.

Again, I doubt this game is for you based upon your expectations for updates and that you "skip through yakking." The first update was the shortest cycle at 3 months and I don't think that the developer would be able to match that without story suffering. I could be wrong - but I'd rather be wrong on the long side, rather than the short.

This is more an adult kinetic novel that happens to have sex than a porn that has a decision tree. A lot of the sex in this game is story-driven with Brooke's sex scenes probably least story-driven at this time. The Weird Sisters are quite driven by story, and Denise & Macy is darn near pure story-driven (both with the MC and with themselves).
I'm almost 48 but very poor health. I'm on more meds than the average 80 year old. I had a heart attack on my 42nd birthday. I use a cane to walk. Can't be on my feet more than about 10 minutes or lift more than about 15 lbs. TBH I could die any time, but years to wait for me is too much. I don't like too much dialogue, it's boring. And I HATE "kinetic novels" no choices it sucks and isn't even a game.
 
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I'm almost 48 but very poor health. I'm on more meds than the average 80 year old. I had a heart attack on my 42nd birthday. I use a cane to walk. Can't be on my feet more than about 10 minutes or lift more than about 15 lbs. TBH I could die any time, but years to wait for me is too much. I don't like too much dialogue, it's boring. And I HATE "kinetic novels" no choices it sucks and isn't even a game.
I'm sorry to hear about your health - that sucks. But I don't think a developer is going to change their work schedule because of it.

(EDIT) You are mistaken about what Kinetic Novels are. I was mistaken - I should have stated Visual Novel.

Kinetic Visual Novels, by definition, have choices which effect the storyline - like the old "Choose Your Own Adventure" books we read as kids. The only reason I mentioned the novel aspect was to reinforce that the storyline is a greater part of this game than many of the games available on this site. This isn't a meet-n-fuck type game. This isn't a "bang your not-sister in 15 minutes or less" kind of game.

For example - depending upon choices made into Chapter 6 - you could have sex with NO ONE (I believe), only with certain other characters/teams, or - like my choices allowed me - with all of them (well, not penetration with Denise - but penetration with Macy, some great ass play with Denise, and lesbian scenes with Macy and Denise). The storylines for each of these possibilities can make the sex scenes even more satisfying.

But every reply you have shared in this thread this evening only reinforces that this game is one you shouldn't have on your watch list.
 
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"Kinetic Novels" have no choice whatsoever. They are like movies.
You are correct - I misspoke. I was wrong. I will update my previous posts. This is a game that is like a "VISUAL NOVEL" that happens to have sex. (EDIT)
 
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I am older, myself. In fact you will find a lot of us "old timers" (GenX and older) as fans of this game. I can't say what ages LarryK, Miðgarðsormr and Dragon59 are - but I'm over 50, and I think I'm the young one of the bunch.
Yup, I'm 62.
It has been my perception that we old timers tend to gravitate more towards the story driven games.
(EDIT) You are mistaken about what Kinetic Novels are. I was mistaken - I should have stated Visual Novel.

Kinetic Visual Novels, by definition, have choices which effect the storyline - like the old "Choose Your Own Adventure" books we read as kids. The only reason I mentioned the novel aspect was to reinforce that the storyline is a greater part of this game than many of the games available on this site. This isn't a meet-n-fuck type game. This isn't a "bang your not-sister in 15 minutes or less" kind of game.

For example - depending upon choices made into Chapter 6 - you could have sex with NO ONE (I believe), only with certain other characters/teams, or - like my choices allowed me - with all of them (well, not penetration with Denise - but penetration with Macy, some great ass play with Denise, and lesbian scenes with Macy and Denise). The storylines for each of these possibilities can make the sex scenes even more satisfying.

But every reply you have shared in this thread this evening only reinforces that this game is one you shouldn't have on your watch list.
I think the definitions between Visual Novel and Kinetic Novel seem counterintuitive to me. Kinetic makes me think of movement, as in choices being made that changes things. Visual Novel reminds me of graphic novel, which is just a series of static images to tell a single story. For some reason the Kinetic Novel is static, and the Visual Novel is dynamic.
 
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jestertlw

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Yup, I'm 62.
It has been my perception that we old timers tend to gravitate more towards the story driven games.

I think the definitions between Visual Novel and Kinetic Novel seem counterintuitive to me. Kinetic makes me think of movement, as in choices being made that changes things. Visual Novel reminds me of graphic novel, which is just a series of static images to tell a single story. For some reason the Kinetic Novel is static, and the Visual Novel is dynamic.
I think we were conditioned to enjoy these better from watching adult movies when they had more fleshed-out storylines - from Behind the Green Door to The Devil in Miss Jones. My favorite actresses from that era was Marilyn Chambers and Sharon Mitchell.

And yes, the definitions are reversed with what they should be in my mind, as well, and for the same reasons. It appears that Visual Novels came first, but the first title that its publisher used Kinetic Novel to describe did so because the publisher added sound. And so, we're stuck because a company decided sound was "Kinetic" for a visual novel with no decision tree. SIGH.
 
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I think we were conditioned to enjoy these better from watching adult movies when they had more fleshed-out storylines - from Behind the Green Door to The Devil in Miss Jones. My favorite actresses from that era was Marilyn Chambers and Sharon Mitchell.

And yes, the definitions are reversed with what they should be in my mind, as well, and for the same reasons. It appears that Visual Novels came first, but the first title that its publisher used Kinetic Novel to describe did so because the publisher added sound. And so, we're stuck because a company decided sound was "Kinetic" for a visual novel with no decision tree. SIGH.
You might be right about our formative porn. Back when they were trying to make movies that were explicit. I still look at some of those old classics from time to time. One of my favorites was Annie Sprinkle. I actually talked to her last year for a few minutes at my place of work. Other favorites from that era were Kay Parker, Annette Haven, Desiree Cousteau, & Honey Wilder.

Interesting bit of information: from an interview with Sharon Mitchel in a podcast about the Traci Lords story (Once Upon a Time in the Valley), she said she actually entered the the adult industry at 17, but was an emancipated minor at the time. Does that mean it was somehow legal for an emancipated minor in the state of New York in the seventies? She was in her first movie in 1975, and she was either born in 1957 or 1958, depending upon source.

And thanks for that validation of my own confusion. ;)
 

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Traci Lords' content wasn't legal because she was a minor, full stop. Doesn't matter if she was emancipated or not, she wasn't 18.
 

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Traci Lords' content wasn't legal because she was a minor, full stop. Doesn't matter if she was emancipated or not, she wasn't 18.
I was talking about Sharon Mitchell. She claimed in an interview that she (Sharon Mitchell) entered the business at 17 back in 1975. Sorry for any confusion. Different sources give her birth year as 1956, 1957, or 1958.

Traci Lords used someone else's ID to begin modeling at 15 and doing movies at 16. She actually began shooting her last adult film on her 18th birthday, the only legal one (Traci, I Love You). By some accounts, the feds knew she was underage very early in her career, but chose to wait while gathering more evidence, and only acted after her 18th birthday. A bit messed up letting her continue in order to build a case against the industry.
 
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Miðgarðsormr

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Well here we go I'm probably going to get booted again but I am going to give MY thoughts on the update/game at this state and probably ignore the replays of the toxic fanbase.
Ah yes the toxic fanbase that can debunk your arguments by memory alone because they actually played the game and know about it instead of skipping through all of it and be mad at the end because "me horny, why no fucky fucky for character i like? Why game not exactly like i want it to be?"
Ppl like you show up in the hundreds over a year in this thread. And their account live expectancy is very low cause you guys never read the thread rules, the forum rules or any rules at all.

I love the story, renders and overall concept. Yes girls are ugly but that is exactly what gives the game its charm and separates it from the cookie cutter games seen on this site.
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When I found the game I couldn't stop playing it sometimes even skipping over content (office trolls) just to get to main char content a bit faster.
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If it's not your thing, please don't comment about it. We will delete those comments.
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The bathroom and couch scenes were superb the computer project scene GODLY! Liked the museum visit as well. I screamed more more more! Then it came to a screeching halt with a vacation BS update but I did not lose hope, keep playing they will eventually go back home.
Vacation BS update? So character growth which is essential for any story driven game is BS to you? May i suggest Pornhub to you? Less dialouge or character depth but lots of titties and vaginas to look at. If you are looking for a generic fap game you are in the wrong thread. I would suggest games like DMD if you look for something to fap at not even 10 minutes in.
This here is a Story driven game. If you dislike story driven games you are in the wrong thread.

Wait 10 months for an update and WTF!!!!! All the dev did is cut and paste bathroom, couch and computer scenes for the girl I actually care about and added an H scene for the older hag. And it took him 10 months (2500 hours) for all that lol. Slow clap...
And again i have to show you this for calling macy an older hag.
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If you care so much about them i highly advice to use their names. They are not called Girl1 and Girl2 they are called Denise and Macy.

And also debunk the nonsense you just wrote. There was no copy and paste bathroom, couch and computer scene if you would have payed some attention which you clearly didn't. Let me break it down for you.

1. Some scenes are the same but neither the animations, posings or dialouges are the same. This includes the morning wake up calls as well. It is the same place but it is not a copy paste work. New poses, new animations, new dialouge and new animations. That clearly slipped your mind when playing the new update. But play the former update and play the current one and you will clearly see that those are different in every scene. Yes every scene in this update is different form the former update. Not a single one was copied.

2. You forgot to add the new masturbation scenes and animations in the bathroom as well as the computer scenes and some particular scene with Denise, the MC and the rear end of Denise.
Copy and paste would mean you see the exact same thing we already had again. You didn't and claiming that you did is literally a lie.

3. You also forgot to add that new scenes and backgrounds like the funeral, school, school office, characters, dream sequences and a new place in which Macy and the MC have a go at each other got added as well. According to you non of that exists right? Maybe pay better attention?

4. Yes it did took naughtyroad a long time to make this update and the game in and of itself. But if you can show me another dev that works SOLO on a project like this who does it better, faster be my guest. Cause the few ones who could have already a team of 5 people or more and still produce either an update per year despite having a full team of ppl working on it or they produce more frequent updates with alot of bugfix updates in between.

We are not toxic in here. We are just allergic to BS and made up lies.
 

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Ah yes the toxic fanbase that can debunk your arguments by memory alone because they actually played the game and know about it instead of skipping through all of it and be mad at the end because "me horny, why no fucky fucky for character i like? Why game not exactly like i want it to be?"
Ppl like you show up in the hundreds over a year in this thread. And their account live expectancy is very low cause you guys never read the thread rules, the forum rules or any rules at all.


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Note from moderators: Look at sample pics provided.
If it's not your thing, please don't comment about it. We will delete those comments.
Also, time between updates is long, but updates are huge.



Vacation BS update? So character growth which is essential for any story driven game is BS to you? May i suggest Pornhub to you? Less dialouge or character depth but lots of titties and vaginas to look at. If you are looking for a generic fap game you are in the wrong thread. I would suggest games like DMD if you look for something to fap at not even 10 minutes in.
This here is a Story driven game. If you dislike story driven games you are in the wrong thread.



And again i have to show you this for calling macy an older hag.
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If you care so much about them i highly advice to use their names. They are not called Girl1 and Girl2 they are called Denise and Macy.

And also debunk the nonsense you just wrote. There was no copy and paste bathroom, couch and computer scene if you would have payed some attention which you clearly didn't. Let me break it down for you.

1. Some scenes are the same but neither the animations, posings or dialouges are the same. This includes the morning wake up calls as well. It is the same place but it is not a copy paste work. New poses, new animations, new dialouge and new animations. That clearly slipped your mind when playing the new update. But play the former update and play the current one and you will clearly see that those are different in every scene. Yes every scene in this update is different form the former update. Not a single one was copied.

2. You forgot to add the new masturbation scenes and animations in the bathroom as well as the computer scenes and some particular scene with Denise, the MC and the rear end of Denise.
Copy and paste would mean you see the exact same thing we already had again. You didn't and claiming that you did is literally a lie.

3. You also forgot to add that new scenes and backgrounds like the funeral, school, school office, characters, dream sequences and a new place in which Macy and the MC have a go at each other got added as well. According to you non of that exists right? Maybe pay better attention?

4. Yes it did took naughtyroad a long time to make this update and the game in and of itself. But if you can show me another dev that works SOLO on a project like this who does it better, faster be my guest. Cause the few ones who could have already a team of 5 people or more and still produce either an update per year despite having a full team of ppl working on it or they produce more frequent updates with alot of bugfix updates in between.

We are not toxic in here. We are just allergic to BS and made up lies.
Though admittedly people in this thread may have become allergic to one or two topics that are warned of in OP, like in another game I support people tend to get allergic when the incest topic is brought up again and again, even if that is not always the fault of the posters that are new to that thread, but also the way it is done does not always help. :)

Then again it is quite clear what this game is about where one is even more innocent if manipulative as the other, girls are both clearly shown in OP and though it might have gone slightly faster with Denise and her being up to bj territory by now believably could have worked. This is still one of the few games that makes sense in the build up, speed and that different chars with different prior experience have different speeds and things that hold them back and make them break those barriers and how ( with Macy going more or less from kissing with both aware to full sex for example fits her and MC both in that relation when they decide to break the barrier) that changes based on their background imo, making those people feel real. Kudos for that, this is not a cookie cutter incest game.
 
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Has anyone been having issues with chapters 5 and 6? Because for me they freeze a lot and crash a lot, some of the scenes with movement also seem to glitch out and the people disappear. In chapter 6 when you take the daughter to her school the game crashes, after crashing 3 times at that point and it just kept on the same moving forward.
 

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Has anyone been having issues with chapters 5 and 6? Because for me they freeze a lot and crash a lot, some of the scenes with movement also seem to glitch out and the people disappear. In chapter 6 when you take the daughter to her school the game crashes, after crashing 3 times at that point and it just kept on the same moving forward.
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I'll keep my eye open. You can also always join the dev's discord from the link in OP to see if someone has reported similar there.
 
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