VN Ren'Py Light of My Life [Ch. 1-7 v1.0.0] [Naughty Road]

[digitalblakangel]

Way are people talking about Abandoned tag? It's not a Bluecat situation where nothing was done for over 2 years and lies were just given and people milked for their money. Post on patron are consistent. Last update was a month ago. Just let the Dev go at his own pace and when it gets here it gets here. If you do not like that kind of updating then just ignore the thread and go on with your life. The Dev owe you nothing and the message of a long time between updates has always been there and there has always been a update progression.

I just know I look forward to when it is completed and know I will enjoy it and that is all that really matters.

Progress update from Yesterday to shut up the whiners.

 

[PBS666]

Where does this flood of sensible and reasonable posts suddenly come from ? I had to check the URL in my browser to see if I was still on F95zone...

 

[A.K.A87]

Where does this flood of sensible and reasonable posts suddenly come from ? I had to check the URL in my browser to see if I was still on F95zone...

Hehe, i think the constant and relentless work from the mods deleting the troll posts are finally having a effect.

Oh how i wish it would last

 

[PBS666]

Hehe, i think the constant and relentless work from the mods deleting the troll posts are finally having a effect.

Oh how i wish it would last

Ha! The trebuchet crew (which has reached veteran status by now) will see to it.

 

[hasani200]

Way are people talking about Abandoned tag? It's not a Bluecat situation where nothing was done for over 2 years and lies were just given and people milked for their money. Post on patron are consistent. Last update was a month ago. Just let the Dev go at his own pace and when it gets here it gets here. If you do not like that kind of updating then just ignore the thread and go on with your life. The Dev owe you nothing and the message of a long time between updates has always been there and there has always been a update progression.

I just know I look forward to when it is completed and know I will enjoy it and that is all that really matters.

Progress update from Yesterday to shut up the whiners.

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While there certainly is some merit for arguing for say, dropping an update at 8 months rather than 16, calling a game abandoned when the creator posts update announcements is ludicrous. Although I am unable to get on discord anymore I know that the creator's presence there is very regular, just as it is here. That behavior is not found on an abandoned project. NR has always been approachable and communicative with everyone. Yea, its been a LONG wait. But I know that the updates are massive. 6 week updates suck in comparison. I have not been around since CH 1 but have been here long enough to trust this guy. As pointed out, he posts the game here for free. If you insist on throwing shit at him for it, go make your own game. (this is not aimed

 

[hasani200]

While there certainly is some merit for arguing for say, dropping an update at 8 months rather than 16, calling a game abandoned when the creator posts update announcements is ludicrous. Although I am unable to get on discord anymore I know that the creator's presence there is very regular, just as it is here. That behavior is not found on an abandoned project. NR has always been approachable and communicative with everyone. Yea, its been a LONG wait. But I know that the updates are massive. 6 week updates suck in comparison. I have not been around since CH 1 but have been here long enough to trust this guy. As pointed out, he posts the game here for free. If you insist on throwing shit at him for it, go make your own game. (this is not aimed at

Manny necessarily - i think he is speaking reasonably but I agree w DBA and Fiona. --- blah some of my post was cut off . doesnt matter, I meant to say that labeling this game abandoned makes no sense. Anyway, it comes when it comes. Relax, you'll be pleased with the result, no doubt.

 

[afterlights]

Say what?

Abandoned: The game has been abandoned (confirmed by the dev) or the developer hasn't posted anything related to the game for at least 3 months.

Where in that does it say that if an update doesn't drop in 18 months the game gets the abandoned tag even if the dev provides regular progress updates?

That policy is as misunderstood and mis-applied as "NTR."

I'm not sure why this seems to excite some people.

It's some kind of validation. Several blanket posts over several games and the one time it sticks, they can puff out their chests how right they were.

 

[botc76]

I mean, it has been eons since the update, but like with DeLucca Family, the dev is being absolutely open about it, if you pay for it, and it is too long a wait, stop paying, if you just pirate it here, forget about it or wait for the update.

Of course, I understand just wanting to play a new chapter, not like I don't want that as well, but when a dev says it's done, when it's done, and it will take a long time, there's not really a lot of valid reason to complain, just a lot of entitlement.

 

[Kassan06969]

While there certainly is some merit for arguing for say, dropping an update at 8 months rather than 16, calling a game abandoned when the creator posts update announcements is ludicrous. Although I am unable to get on discord anymore I know that the creator's presence there is very regular, just as it is here. That behavior is not found on an abandoned project. NR has always been approachable and communicative with everyone. Yea, its been a LONG wait. But I know that the updates are massive. 6 week updates suck in comparison. I have not been around since CH 1 but have been here long enough to trust this guy. As pointed out, he posts the game here for free. If you insist on throwing shit at him for it, go make your own game. (this is not aimed

It's not ludicrous at all. 1 year is certainly too long, let alone a year and a half. Too many of the post bullshit like pictures and never update the game. Look at Milky Shitty. I like that the updates are huge, but I'd rather have smaller ones at 6 months or less so I don't almost completely forget what happened before.

 

[Talcum Powder]

It's not ludicrous at all. 1 year is certainly too long, let alone a year and a half. Too many of the post bullshit like pictures and never update the game. Look at Milky Shitty. I like that the updates are huge, but I'd rather have smaller ones at 6 months or less so I don't almost completely forget what happened before.

Quick reminder: MC prodded Denise's ass and fucked Macy. IMHO: Both events unforgettable.

 

[InvaderZim]

I mean, it has been eons since the update, but like with DeLucca Family, the dev is being absolutely open about it, if you pay for it, and it is too long a wait, stop paying, if you just pirate it here, forget about it or wait for the update.

Of course, I understand just wanting to play a new chapter, not like I don't want that as well, but when a dev says it's done, when it's done, and it will take a long time, there's not really a lot of valid reason to complain, just a lot of entitlement.

I have a slight suspicion that 0% of those that come here to complain are supporting the dev, whereas no one who are supporting him complain.

 

[A.K.A87]

It's not ludicrous at all. 1 year is certainly too long, let alone a year and a half. Too many of the post bullshit like pictures and never update the game. Look at Milky Shitty. I like that the updates are huge, but I'd rather have smaller ones at 6 months or less so I don't almost completely forget what happened before.

The rule is there about the timeline,, as it has been stated ,, we know,,, Naughty knows,, and frankly, I don't care. Most of us don't i think.
Mark it,, don't mark it,,,, don't give a fuck.

Now comparing this to other games saying look at what happened to yadda yadda yadda is a problem,,, Not the same kind of game and sure as shit not the same kind of Dev.

Now had naught been.....

Spoiler: Litte Rant here but it is to the point

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Besides all that, do you really think a dev of a game is going to hurry or cut his plans or updates into pieces because of what a none subscriber wants. Now i know what you are gonna say , i was a subscriber but i stopped and so on.
Truth is Devs loose and gain subscribers all the time specially around release time.

So unless you wanna fork over a huge and i mean huge amount of money i don't think any of us get a say in it.

Now i don't want to point out the biggest flaw in your statement but :
If you don't find the story/game interesting enough to remember it as time passes, what makes you think we or anyone would care that you forgot ??
Replay it if you want ,,, or don't ,,, don't care,, but please stop bitching about it.

 

[botc76]

It's not ludicrous at all. 1 year is certainly too long, let alone a year and a half. Too many of the post bullshit like pictures and never update the game. Look at Milky Shitty. I like that the updates are huge, but I'd rather have smaller ones at 6 months or less so I don't almost completely forget what happened before.

And you are perfectly fine to want this and if you are a patron you can even tell Naughty Road on patreon, but in the end it's no secret that the updates take long and that he takes the time he needs for them.
He prefers it that way, and really, it's up to him how he wants to make his game, just like it is up to everyone else, if they want to support him knowing that this is how it goes.
Everyone knows that's the way it is, so at this point it's really a case of either accept it or look for a different game.
I do get your point, but it's not like he is a milker who strings people along. The people who support him know how he works and how long it takes.
It's maybe not ludicrous, but it is indeed a bit absurd to want a game to be tagged abandoned, when everybody knows it is being worked on and the update will come when the update comes.

 

[ArhraCole]

Nice to see how far along the chapter 7 progress is getting.

 

[Tabberius]

still nothing..?
480 days since last update.

 

[Count Morado]

still nothing..?
480 days since last update.

Oh hey, captain obvious, thanks. It's not like the last several pages have a few entitled people already whining for an update and being told by a good number of players, including a moderator, to chill and do something while they wait.

Chill and do something while you wait. It will be released when it's ready. Then we all get to play a game provided for free by the developer when it does.

Read the room before googling "how many days since XXXX" and posting the count.

 

[PyoT]

It's maybe not ludicrous, but it is indeed a bit absurd to want a game to be tagged abandoned, when everybody knows it is being worked on and the update will come when the update comes.

Sometimes on sites like this it feels like people forget what the point of a tag is in the first place: help people feel specific content, give them correct information about content, etc.

If a tag is misleading or incorrect, you're doing the opposite. "But our arbitrary rules!" ... well, then the rules need improvement. It's not like a bot with no judgement is doing the tags.

But, "whatever". It's just one of those things.

 

[naughtyroad]

I'm older, familiar with how software projects fail and VERY VERY familiar with this attitude. It's not healthy for you, us or the product. I literally hope you just see this and not respond, just think, really think about what I'm saying.
(...)

A whole lot to unpack there, and I'm convinced it comes from a good place, but like some pointed out, a lot of it isn't really applicable. I've got a long, long career in software projects as well, first doing them, and then running them, and I'm quite aware a lot of the stuff I'm doing with LomL makes absolutely no business sense.

But I'm not running this a business, and besides working more than fulltime on LomL (if doing anything so much fun can be called working) I have a second job that I rely on to pay the bills and provide for my family. So I'm really free in a way no person in this for the business could be, to set goals that focus purely on the creative process, which are the parts that give me joy.

So when I say "if support collapses, it collapses", it's not the defiant cry of a harried captain howling against the wind as his ship slowly disintegrates around him in the storm that threatens to swallow him whole, but rather the assurance that I'll do what I feel will benefit the quality of the game best, regardless of business concerns. Because all of this talk of release dates is only relevant right here and now, but it's completely meaningless the moment this chapter is completed (or at some point in the future, this game). And that end result is what matters to me, not the process.

Where does this flood of sensible and reasonable posts suddenly come from ? I had to check the URL in my browser to see if I was still on F95zone...

NGL, that made me snort coffee all over my keyboard.
Cheers to all that responded in support, it's good to know you get where I'm coming from.

 

[Ali ibn Hassan]

Edited

So when I say "if support collapses, it collapses"
NGL, that made me snort coffee all over my keyboard.
Cheers to all that responded in support, it's good to know you get where I'm coming from.

S'pose being a lowlander makes you used to the thought of the polder dams leaking

 

[manneychin]

A whole lot to unpack there, and I'm convinced it comes from a good place, but like some pointed out, a lot of it isn't really applicable. I've got a long, long career in software projects as well, first doing them, and then running them, and I'm quite aware a lot of the stuff I'm doing with LomL makes absolutely no business sense.

But I'm not running this a business, and besides working more than fulltime on LomL (if doing anything so much fun can be called working) I have a second job that I rely on to pay the bills and provide for my family. So I'm really free in a way no person in this for the business could be, to set goals that focus purely on the creative process, which are the parts that give me joy.

So when I say "if support collapses, it collapses", it's not the defiant cry of a harried captain howling against the wind as his ship slowly disintegrates around him in the storm that threatens to swallow him whole, but rather the assurance that I'll do what I feel will benefit the quality of the game best, regardless of business concerns. Because all of this talk of release dates is only relevant right here and now, but it's completely meaningless the moment this chapter is completed (or at some point in the future, this game). And that end result is what matters to me, not the process.



NGL, that made me snort coffee all over my keyboard.
Cheers to all that responded in support, it's good to know you get where I'm coming from.

Well... mkey. If you can afford this luxury of doing what you love for a long time without losing creative/resource steam... that's pretty rare and hard to relate to. I thought the revenue is essential to keep you going and I really REALLY want for you to keep going.

I've also done software for decades but in corporate envs, nothing artistic. In my experience business matters are not the only reasons why it's worth keeping in touch with your audience by releasing more often. More than once in my career I found myself putting in a lot of work in some groundbreaking/experimental project for more than a year, only to find out at the end that even though I kept getting good signals along the way from immediate sponsors, the result was no longer received at large with the same enthusiasm as back when the POC/MVP was presented simply because the general focus of attention changed a lot in the mean time. The problem had nothing to do with the quality of my work or the result not being true to the vision, it was timing. I'm telling you it was highly demotivating beyond pecuniary reasons and I think this trap is applicable to many artistic projects too. In the end, all artists want their art to "steal" attention and have a solid audience and when you touch base so rarely it unavoidably increases this risk of disconnect => disappointment. I know there are "mad"/solitary artists/scientists who have no issue working in their "cave" for years, some of them get their names in history books but a vast majority don't. Frankly I don't know too many who do it just for their own pleasure, maybe it's logical that we don't hear much from them.

Anyway, I hope your project is fulfilling for you but also that it gets successful at large while also being ever more pervier and kinkier. I hate vanilla/policed fantasies with a vengeance. I'm out.