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Kronapz

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Just read the developers post about the update progress he wrote some weeks ago and wanted to offer my unsolicited two cents.

You basically have two different audiences. The first one, the loud one, is the current one. Eagerly waiting for the update and definitely not shy about saying so (not everyone, but still). They very much care about the schedule and would want the update as soon as possible, preferably yesterday. But the second, silent audience is the one that will discover your work in the future. They won't care at all whether the update will come in a week, a month or next year. They only care about the quality. And in the long run, if you want to grow your audience, you should care way more about the second audience.

So that's my attempt at maybe giving you a different perspective on the demanding section of your audience. But I'm biased since I definitely would hate to see you sacrifice quality for speed so take my opinion with a grain of salt. In any case, I love your game and hope the trolls can't get through your goblin princess bodyguards too often to ruin the mood.

And happy thanksgiving to you weird americans. Your holidays are invading us here in the Europe (at least the black friday stuff).
That is how "Old Blizzard" used to be with how they developed games, they would say when it's "ready" or "Blizzard ready" or something along those lines. Most people have developed over the years "I want this now" type of mentality, but then get all pissed off because of bugs or "missing content/underdeveloped content" etc etc etc.
 

Jetse

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That is how "Old Blizzard" used to be with how they developed games, they would say when it's "ready" or "Blizzard ready" or something along those lines. Most people have developed over the years "I want this now" type of mentality, but then get all pissed off because of bugs or "missing content/underdeveloped content" etc etc etc.
Let me guess (and don't kill me for this) that there are 2 types of people, people who waits for a really good products with patience (>35 years old) and people who wants all right now and blame the worls if they don-t have it (<35 years old).

It's a joke, don't blame me for this:cool::p:p
 

Kronapz

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Let me guess (and don't kill me for this) that there are 2 types of people, people who waits for a really good products with patience (>35 years old) and people who wants all right now and blame the worls if they don-t have it (<35 years old).

It's a joke, don't blame me for this:cool::p:p
Pretty much! lol
 
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Let me guess (and don't kill me for this) that there are 2 types of people, people who waits for a really good products with patience (>35 years old) and people who wants all right now and blame the worls if they don-t have it (<35 years old).

It's a joke, don't blame me for this:cool::p:p
Not proof, but I am willing to wait as long as needed, and can almost remember being 35...
 

geenius3ab

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Many things. For one, I think she should seek therapy. She has been clearly bullied, and her anxiety made worse in school, yet it is a "wrong" choice to recommend therapy. Her trauma regarding her mothers death and resulting anxiety doesn't seem to me a thing that just "going along" with her will fix. Clear neuroses like abnormal titty-fixation & abandonment issues add to the feeling that she should be helped. The MC being a caring guardian (or whatever...) should act or be alarmed?

Everything combines to her seeming too young, yet acting disturbingly lewd. There are absolutely sweet moments, but I felt uneasy and put off.

Then there's the time she hogs on-screen. But this is mainly an issue because I wasn't into her. But it was an issue because it started to increase the irritation.

All of these are highly personal. For example I was completely put off by Hayley's Story after the reveal. Trauma may be too real for me.
Therapy isn't a fix for every situation - There are bad therapists, it's expensive and it heavily depends on the doctor, if it's a good one or a bad one, if she's too passive or too active. Most of the time therapists just make you realize that you have an issue, and try to push you towards taking small steps to overcome those issues, for issues like she has, it's a far deeper problem, and everyone can get in grips with their issues in one way or another, as a father you are more interested in that the girl is in a good place in terms of her mood, and if she's preparing for the future (she can learn from home, that's not really an issue in our current world).

Sure, she has some strange inclinations towards abandonment and breasts, but those are not major issues imho. I'd dare say most of the people on this site who like incest games, have a few screws loose as well, likely due to family issues, single parents, etc etc. As this is just a fictional story there's no harm to it. Most people in this world have those issues in their private lives, it's nothing to really be too alarmed about, fetishes are pretty similar to that. Things we learn to cope with.

In a sense her current fears and weaknesses will iron out over time, if it was something that made her suicidal or makes her hurt herself, then a therapist would be crucial, but in her case, I don't really agree with a guardian having to freak out and rushing to find a therapist, if you have a solid family unit, you can overcome stuff yourself. Not to mention the MC/Guardian is also fighting his own demons, so is the elder one, in that way the whole family should get therapists, but this story here is about them overcoming the demons on their own (Through a bit of taboo).
 
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Reikoku

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it's been 6 monts since the last update, really looking foward for more, anyone know the eta of the next update, probably it's been said before, sry and TIA! =)
 

Heml0ck

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it's been 6 monts since the last update, really looking foward for more, anyone know the eta of the next update, probably it's been said before, sry and TIA! =)
Information on the ETA here and here from the dev:

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Everyone should just calm down. Let's wait for the next update. Do some breathing exercises. I just want peace. I don't want my girls to go feral because of you fucks.
I remember the last time they went feral and it wasn't pretty...

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okkirosawa

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Hi naughtyroad, I have been following you for some time with great appreciation. You are so humble that give me a courage to ask you a couple of questions. First, would you consider scenario suggestions from your followers? The second, would you consider sharing your knowledge and required skills on both game development and the tools that you are using in some other learning platforms that may also benefit (probably not ). Whatever it is better to ask
 
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naughtyroad

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Hi naughtyroad, I have been following you for some time with great appreciation. You are so humble that give me a courage to ask you a couple of questions. First, would you consider scenario suggestions from your followers? The second, would you consider sharing your knowledge and required skills on both game development and the tools that you are using in some other learning platforms that may also benefit (probably not ). Whatever it is better to ask
Aww, you're giving me too much credit.

But as to your first question, yeah, I've had people suggest things that got me thinking and putting something in. Usually it's people just throwing out silly ideas of riffing on scenarios on the discord or something, or maybe something from a conversation somewhere. A lot of time nothing comes from it, but you never know if something comes up that fits my ideas for the story, or adds a nice little side gag or detail.
One example is where the coven is all looking at one eye-phone, a reference to the mythological suggested by a friend, that was just to good to pass up. Another is when Macy sits on the couch with the MC and gets excited over a suggestively narrated cooking show, giving, eh... rise to some serious pokeys which has her hurry out of the room in embarrassment. The pokeys idea came up on discord and as I was just writing up the dialog at the time and it seemed like a funny thing to have happen, I added it.
Big or involved plot twists or attempts to shoe-horn in a favored kink out of the blue usually don't make it though, because I already have a pretty good idea of where I want to go with this, so even if I like the idea, the chance that something that big will fit in are slim.

As to your second question, I'm always happy to answer questions from people who write to me asking how to get started with daz3d or with making VNs in general. But I don't think so highly of my skills and even if I did, my duty is first and foremost to making the game (and finally finish this effin' chapter), so that is where my time must go first (and what little time I have left after that and my dayjob, I owe my wife). So you won't find me much on any learning platform or on the forums here or dedicated channels on some discords where skilled and passionate people already give out great advice, unless it's for picking up some skill or trick myself.
 

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The second, would you consider sharing your knowledge and required skills on both game development and the tools that you are using in some other learning platforms that may also benefit (probably not ).
The question wasn't directed at me, but FYI he's programming in , creating the assets in and (probably) Adobe Photoshop. I think most people are self-taught (maybe they took a programming class), but there are tutorials online. As for the skill required to be a one-man development team... we are talking about quite a bit of work.

I imagine many aspiring devs take online classes in writing, programming, art for starters.
 

Bill_Buttlicker

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Aww, you're giving me too much credit.

But as to your first question, yeah, I've had people suggest things that got me thinking and putting something in. Usually it's people just throwing out silly ideas of riffing on scenarios on the discord or something, or maybe something from a conversation somewhere. A lot of time nothing comes from it, but you never know if something comes up that fits my ideas for the story, or adds a nice little side gag or detail.
One example is where the coven is all looking at one eye-phone, a reference to the mythological suggested by a friend, that was just to good to pass up. Another is when Macy sits on the couch with the MC and gets excited over a suggestively narrated cooking show, giving, eh... rise to some serious pokeys which has her hurry out of the room in embarrassment. The pokeys idea came up on discord and as I was just writing up the dialog at the time and it seemed like a funny thing to have happen, I added it.
Big or involved plot twists or attempts to shoe-horn in a favored kink out of the blue usually don't make it though, because I already have a pretty good idea of where I want to go with this, so even if I like the idea, the chance that something that big will fit in are slim.

As to your second question, I'm always happy to answer questions from people who write to me asking how to get started with daz3d or with making VNs in general. But I don't think so highly of my skills and even if I did, my duty is first and foremost to making the game (and finally finish this effin' chapter), so that is where my time must go first (and what little time I have left after that and my dayjob, I owe my wife). So you won't find me much on any learning platform or on the forums here or dedicated channels on some discords where skilled and passionate people already give out great advice, unless it's for picking up some skill or trick myself.
More pokeys :BootyTime:
 

jamdan

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You put your right foot in
You take your right foot out
You put your right foot in
And you shake it all about
You do the hokey pokey
And you turn yourself around
That's what it's all about

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This is the new theme song of this game. Inspired by Macy's pokeys.

I imagine that Denise will have an idea to do a dancing game, and this is the song they dance to. Denise turned herself around too fast, and got dizzy. In her state of dizziness, she falls on top of Macy. Laughing, Denise *accidently* touches Macy's boobies, and Macy as we expect...gets some pokeys. Denise is still *oblivious* to it all as she gropes Macy and laughs, but Macy nervously looks up at MC. MC, being stunned by what he is watching.... gets a little...pokey himself. Macy looks right at MC's manly-pokey-bits, pushes Denise off her and runs to her room. MC runs off to the bathroom. Denise, sitting alone in the living room, wonders what the heck just happened....just as she wanted :devilish: .

Then it cuts to Macy's room...as she is furiously rubbing herself. Then it cuts to the bathroom...where MC is furiously rubbing himself! And now what? Split-screen rub-off! While all this is happening, Denise is eating some snacks being proud that she *won* the game :devilish: as she wonders who she should...check up on. Should she barge into the bathroom, Macy's room? Both? She has to make sure they're ok! :devilish:
 
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