Ionascu

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May 15, 2017
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Soon this game will be forgotten by everyone... it's the same thing as a month, two months ago (don't want to say about history of this game)
Someone said they need money to progress faster, i say stop milking and do something to earn more.
But, i understand them... i have my normal job to sustain myself, patreon is easy money... let's party!
 

Gr8Dumper

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Here we go again,
Do you pay the P and P to spend more time developing the game rather than working more at their day job?
If so you have the right to complain and you can also do that directly to P and P over Patreon - they are usually very responsive.
However, if you do not, you are DL something for free and you should perhaps be thanking the developer to motivate them to continue. (no $1500/month is not a motivator to spend majority of your spare time after coming home from work instead of with your family - $1500 helps of course to pay for props/models, s/w, H/W, but instead of doing this game they could invest the same time in building their careers with much better sustainable return and better jobs, especially with their skills).
Negative reinforcement is not particularly effective motivator for porn game developers (At least it would not motivate me. I, in their shoes, would probably just say: "fuck it".). I do think positive feed back would motivate them to continue though.
 

mike5000

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Nov 26, 2017
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Here we go again,
Do you pay the P and P to spend more time developing the game rather than working more at their day job?
If so you have the right to complain and you can also do that directly to P and P over Patreon - they are usually very responsive.
However, if you do not, you are DL something for free and you should perhaps be thanking the developer to motivate them to continue. (no $1500/month is not a motivator to spend majority of your spare time after coming home from work instead of with your family - $1500 helps of course to pay for props/models, s/w, H/W, but instead of doing this game they could invest the same time in building their careers with much better sustainable return and better jobs, especially with their skills).
Negative reinforcement is not particularly effective motivator for porn game developers (At least it would not motivate me. I, in their shoes, would probably just say: "fuck it".). I do think positive feed back would motivate them to continue though.
here we go again :

p & p created probably one of the best game in this industry, its original, the story was good, the renders and animations are perfect, but instead to keep working hard and keep bringing regular updates , they just disappeared for months, and later came back with a dumb excuse, im agree with you that devs should receive more good feed backs and more support , but im also agree with all the costumers that dont support a game that its so irregular in their updates ,

money is not free either , if p & p are receiving 1500 per month today , to be honest, they are getting a lot more than what they really deserve today , instead if they where more constant with the game updates , and more active in their patreon site, today all will be different

the only enemy of p & p and their game is p & p itself , and they are the only one who can bring back the project, more patreons, more support and more good feed back ,
 

Albert Pike

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Aug 3, 2018
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I like the look of this model in game. She is one of my favorite characters in general, sexy , curvy , big ass , nice face...
This game is very playful, but with lots of bugs.

My last quest is in the movie rental store, it's a quest right after the painter who spank me and fucked me...
I do not think the game ends here, what I missed or what I did wrong ?
 

Gr8Dumper

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May 11, 2018
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here we go again :

p & p created probably one of the best game in this industry, its original, the story was good, the renders and animations are perfect, but instead to keep working hard and keep bringing regular updates , they just disappeared for months, and later came back with a dumb excuse, im agree with you that devs should receive more good feed backs and more support , but im also agree with all the costumers that dont support a game that its so irregular in their updates ,

money is not free either , if p & p are receiving 1500 per month today , to be honest, they are getting a lot more than what they really deserve today , instead if they where more constant with the game updates , and more active in their patreon site, today all will be different

the only enemy of p & p and their game is p & p itself , and they are the only one who can bring back the project, more Patrons, more support and more good feed back ,
You are re-litigating what happen a year ago, which they have apologized for to the patrons multiple times. A lot of things have changed since then (repeating some old post here):
1. they deliver monthly wall papers
2. they are a lot more active on Patreon behind the pay wall:
- posts almost bi-weekly (lately it was the west map, the circle stats, free roaming plans, remodeling of certain characters and places, future direction etc)
- comments etc. at least weekly following up on Patrons questions and feedback
3. actively listens to the paying community and seeks feed back and input to the game (some Patrons are even getting some of their suggestions implemented)
4. a game release about every 4th month give or take a month.

I agree for the non paying community, they do not do much (except releasing new public versions of LotV every now and then) but the paying community get quite a lot, on par with other Creators that delivers far less quality or less interesting game.

There are multiple creator that get much more than 1500/month and delivers much less and/or with inferior quality or inferior game.

But my bottom line is:
If you were in their shoes with a real day job paying real money and with family, why the hell would you spend any time on this "hobby" when people are whining that they want more, more frequent, and keep complaining about things that happen in 2017.
Instead we need to accept that they have settled in with a work/life/hobby balance that allows them to sustainably do what they get done in the pace they have gotten things done the last 9 months or so.
The alternative is that we piss them off and they quit the game.
No, it is not an alternative to tell them to quite their day job and focus on the game full time. These guys, have real market valuable skills (my guess IT industry) and do not have a low level job. They likely work for a corporation with health insurance plans, pension plans, paid vacations and perks.
No it is not an alternative to tell them to spend less time with their family for obvious reasons.

So net, net, as much as we want more faster, what we are currently getting is what we are going to get in the pace we are currently getting it in. No whining is going to change that.
 

mike5000

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Nov 26, 2017
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But my bottom line is:
If you were in their shoes with a real day job paying real money and with family, why the hell would you spend any time on this "hobby" when people are whining that they want more, more frequent, and keep complaining about things that happen in 2017..
because there is people that has family too paying to support your "hobby "as you call it, so if you try to get some profit from your hobby and you are getting it , the less you can do its show some respect or at least spend a bit of your time to repay the effort that others are doing to support you or not ?


Note: im talking about the game and its creators , im not off of topic i guess
 
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VNON

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how many peoples working on this project?
he is senior adult western game maker, one of my first 3DCG western adult game
who is still have a problem with time management, if that's the only problem

no one said PnP should release every month, but at least people should have standard now,
others devs CAN release every month or two,
this project its not the most complicated one, or have the most realistic render either

i'm just free leecher, and i'm just waiting this game from last week,
i don't know how you can still be patient with PnP attitude

either you just a *****
or you just a *****
or are you PNP's ******

well, i'm complaining
who can not complains,
thats you *****

well, complaining PnP or not, it's not changing anything if its coming from me,
thats you again, *****



idk what ***** mean
 

Gr8Dumper

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Hi, is there anywhere hidden in the game where you can replay some of the movie scenes? Thanks
Yes, see the guide: day 14,
certain conditions have to be met but search for search for "porn" and you'll find it how.

Unless you mean a gallery then the answer is No not yet.
 
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