RPGM Abandoned Lily of the Valley [v2.0] [P and P]

[Creeping Death]

you are still on about this ancient history BS instead how they have delivered the last almost 18 months. and I agree with googunogu , you guys probably never contributed a penny just complaining and complaining for something you got for free.

No one complained. But you did because of the decline of patrons

of course not, but P and P is delivering what they promise their patrons so your comparison is flawed.

Maybe some of the patrons are not okay with the progress the devs make or what they deliver?!

- 8th november 2018: Info about Giancarlo in 1.0
- After two months on Jan 11 2019 first new official statement about 1.0
- Patrons voted for gallery room which was released as 1.1 on february 17th 2019 (so no new content)
- On april 29th accouncement about soon release of 1.2
- On may 31st release of 1.2 (first new content since start of the year 2019)
- On september 13th release of 1.3 (139 renders, 5 animations in three and a half months sind last release)

 

[Gr8Dumper]

No one complained. But you did because of the decline of patrons


Maybe some of the patrons are not okay with the progress the devs make or what they deliver?!

- 8th november 2018: Info about Giancarlo in 1.0
- After two months on Jan 11 2019 first new official statement about 1.0
- Patrons voted for gallery room which was released as 1.1 on february 17th 2019 (so no new content)
- On april 29th accouncement about soon release of 1.2
- On may 31st release of 1.2 (first new content since start of the year 2019)
- On september 13th release of 1.3 (139 renders, 5 animations in three and a half months sind last release)

They have delivered more than than you write that your forgot to mention, e.g. wall papers, the v1.3 compressed version etc. Also, where did they not deliver what they said they would (in what you wrote)? so far this year we got v1.0, v1.1, v1.2 and v1.3. That's 4 releases in 10 moths (average 1/2.5 months or so). They have also recently stated that they want to get that down to a 2-month release cadence first and then less than 2 months. Not a promise, but that's what they are aiming for.
Anyway, we are not getting anywhere with this discussion. If you are a patron why don't you tell P and P about your issues directly through patron messaging?

 

[Creeping Death]

They have delivered more than than you write that your forgot to mention, e.g. wall papers, the v1.3 compressed version etc. Also, where did they not deliver what they said they would (in what you wrote)? so far this year we got v1.0, v1.1, v1.2 and v1.3. That's 4 releases in 10 moths (average 1/2.5 months or so). They have also recently stated that they want to get that down to a 2-month release cadence first and then less than 2 months. Not a promise, but that's what they are aiming for.
Anyway, we are not getting anywhere with this discussion. If you are a patron why don't you tell P and P about your issues directly through patron messaging?

1.0 was in development in 2018 and only released in first week of 2019 so no work was done on the first release in 2019.

1.1 was a just a gallery, so no content.

And between 1.2 release (31st of may) and 1.3 on 13th of september lie three and a half months. Within these three and half months they created (only) 139 renders and five animations.

So two content updates for 2019.

And who supports a game because of wallpapers and compressed versions (what a work for a dev to "optimize" the filesize of the images).

I have no issues with them, the 1$ per month is not a problem for me. But these are legit arguments why others say hmm, no, bye bye.

 

[Gr8Dumper]

1.0 was in development in 2018 and only released in first week of 2019 so no work was done on the first release in 2019.

1.1 was a just a gallery, so no content.

And between 1.2 release (31st of may) and 1.3 on 13th of september lie three and a half months. Within these three and half months they created (only) 139 renders and five animations.

So two content updates for 2019.

And who supports a game because of wallpapers and compressed versions (what a work for a dev to "optimize" the filesize of the images).

I have no issues with them, the 1$ per month is not a problem for me. But these are legit arguments why others say hmm, no, bye bye.

Half empty vs. half full guy - lol.
You have to give them that the the trend is positive where they are improving:
- they are getting things done faster (look at the data)
- they are offering more in 2019 than in 2018 and 2018 was better than 2017 (look at ALL releases, posts and count all content not just picking the things you choose to support your point)
- they introduced wp's and galleries, compressed version, polls (before they did none of that) - I remember we the patron said yes to wp, so it is our fault we diverted their time from development to these things
- v1.1 gallery was done because we, the paying patrons, voted to get it done so you have to blame the patrons for that, not P and P - again we knew that it would divert them when we voted
- v1.2 compressed version was done because it was necessary so that folks could download over mega in one go, again patrons was complaining this issue so P and P spent time solving it
- all the things add up and is not nothing - you choose to pick what counts and what doesn't to distort the stats supporting your argument

The trend is positive so it should actually encourage more patrons to stay and attract new ones not the other way around.

Again take up your issues with P and P directly, as a $1 patron. They want to hear from you I'm sure.

But here is the bottom line:

If we want the game to continue then Patrons need to help to fund it or the development will likely stop - so you got to ask your self: is this game something you want to continue? Is LotV worth it? The people who feel that it's worth it and CAN need to continue to support them and new people who feel they CAN need to step up.

It is as simple as that.

(Yeah i know that not everyone can support and some may also have other priorities - I totally get that.)

 

[greyelf]

- Patrons voted for gallery room which was released as 1.1 on february 17th 2019 (so no new content)

1.1 was a just a gallery, so no content.

The way you presented both of the above makes it seem like no (little?) effect (by the developer) is needed to implement such a feature, like all they needed to do was click a button and "hey presto" there was now an instant galley.

Often retro fitting a galley into an existing game, that wasn't designed from the start to have one, requires either:
A. Restructuring/refactoring the code for the events that will appear in it, which then leads to needing to retest the entirety of the standard play-through to make sure it still works as expected.
B. Cloning the existing events to make "galley only" variations of them.

 

[Creeping Death]

The way you presented both of the above makes it seem like no (little?) effect (by the developer) is needed to implement such a feature, like all they needed to do was click a button and "hey presto" there was now an instant galley.

Often retro fitting a galley into an existing game, that wasn't designed from the start to have one, requires either:
A. Restructuring/refactoring the code for the events that will appear in it, which then leads to needing to retest the entirety of the standard play-through to make sure it still works as expected.
B. Cloning the existing events to make "galley only" variations of them.

I didn't question the work needed for implementing it, I just said it contained no content. I don't know why I need to defend myself, I mentioned arguments why people could drop their patronage because Gr8Dumper mentioned a steady decline of patrons. Not more not less. So discussing those arguments with me is a) not anything I want b) doesn't bring back any patrons or make them leave, because most of them don't read here. It is, how it is it. And it will go where it goes. Damn, I am a Zen Master

 

[Mrbanjo]

I'm stuck in the castor building and can't leave. I just did the maid part, was driven back to the building and got the job, but when i go to leave i get turned around and told end of version more in the next update. I'm playing lastest version

 

[Gr8Dumper]

I'm stuck in the castor building and can't leave. I just did the maid part, was driven back to the building and got the job, but when i go to leave i get turned around and told end of version more in the next update. I'm playing lastest version

are you playing the android version?
if playing the pc version, try following the guide in op. for instance it is better to help out Lola in her presentation on day 23 (Monday) so you get the job at castor directly (besides the scenes are better if you do that)- you avoid some issues that way.

 

[Darkman_13]

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V.1.4 Progress - Fred 1

Alright, as the title says, this will be a short post about the Fred 1 scene. Why 1? Well because our future update will include two scenes with him.
After Lily has an interesting conversation at Castor, she decides to talk to Fred about his ENORMOUS skillset that he had shown before. Yes, I'm talking about his talent of cutting expenses and SATISFY his, I mean ours, excuse me, Nick's Lily.
The next post will be about the Fred 2 scene which will be the last one in V.1.4. Until then, I wish you a pleasant Wednesday and as always thank you for your support good people.
Cheers!

 

[cold_arctus]

I have to ask now: Is is better to let Lily submit to Fred or Fred submit to Lily?

Why I ask? Because I kind of like Lily taking the dominant part instead being submissive.

 

[UncleVT]

I really like Lily dominating Fred, the dialogues and situations are very funny and it's something we don't see so much in this type of games.

 

[Latex224]

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V.1.4 Progress - Fred 1

Alright, as the title says, this will be a short post about the Fred 1 scene. Why 1? Well because our future update will include two scenes with him.
After Lily has an interesting conversation at Castor, she decides to talk to Fred about his ENORMOUS skillset that he had shown before. Yes, I'm talking about his talent of cutting expenses and SATISFY his, I mean ours, excuse me, Nick's Lily.
The next post will be about the Fred 2 scene which will be the last one in V.1.4. Until then, I wish you a pleasant Wednesday and as always thank you for your support good people.
Cheers!

Thank's for sharing

 

[cold_arctus]

I really like Lily dominating Fred, the dialogues and situations are very funny and it's something we don't see so much in this type of games.

I agree on that - because it is my preferred path -, but which (exclusive) scenes with Fred are on Lily's dominating and which on her submissive path?

 

[Latex224]

I really like Lily dominating Fred, the dialogues and situations are very funny and it's something we don't see so much in this type of games.

The same. :-D
As long as Lily don't butt fuck Fred with a strap-on, then it's okey. And yeah some funny dialogues aswell when she is the boss. Just like the last scene with Fred and that document he helped her with XD

 

[Gr8Dumper]

I agree on that - because it is my preferred path -, but which (exclusive) scenes with Fred are on Lily's dominating and which on her submissive path?

100% agree with you both Lily dominating Fred is the funniest and sexiest way. That guy need to be kept in check and Lily is just the girl to do it . I do think that it will be Lily dom side and not sub side in v1.4 but we'll see maybe it will be balanced this time - they realize they need each other....

I also hope it is not just the same old, same old sex (they have had a quite a lot of varied sex already) but that they take it to the next level. Like starting to spend the night with Fred in his bed (as an option) for instance or something more than they have been doing so far...
The Fred/Lily relationship have to be take to the next level...

We'll see where it goes

 

[Gr8Dumper]

The same. :-D
As long as Lily don't butt fuck Fred with a strap-on, then it's okey. And yeah some funny dialogues aswell when she is the boss. Just like the last scene with Fred and that document he helped her with XD

Yeah that is my limit to

 

[Dragon Shin]

guys. which one of you played the compressed version, is it good to play without bugs or black screens?

tips please to avoid bugs in compressed version.

 

[Pogo123]

I have to ask now: Is is better to let Lily submit to Fred or Fred submit to Lily?

Why I ask? Because I kind of like Lily taking the dominant part instead being submissive.

i normally like both ways. But in Lily’s case we get used to her dominant relationship so much it’s like the many doggy scenes she has with Fred: it geta repetitive and therefore a bit boring. I LOVE lily and I like Fred, but a bit fresh and new stuff would be hot and appreciated and if it’s just for 2 or 3 scenes.

and yes i would love to see more /different poses with Fred. Like maybe standing sex,cowgirl, missionar, lap dance/face off, the lazy man (which imo fits Fred perfectly), the shoulderholder/the anvil

and isn’t it kind of interesting that lily has a dominant part with (just) Fred but most scenes are doggy which means the guy has controls and not the girl? I would expect many doggy scenes with a very dominant man.

 

[Latex224]

But I got a small question about her dom/sub thing:
Will Lily be the sub with her boss at Castor at some point? If I remember correct, the painter (Marcel? ) painted a picture of her (with small tweaks so no one will see it's her) and there she is restrained on chains, and Lily so it in the Bosses office .

 

[Crow1joy]

I think there’s too much Fred in the game, I think P and P should tell new stories with lily and other characters!