RPGM Abandoned Lily of the Valley [v2.0] [P and P]

[4KING]

Yep, 1st of April it is...

 

[Honamyzer]

Yep, 1st of April it is...

I'm suprise!

 

[mikh85]

How old is this game? Until now, everyone continues to sacredly believe the developer? Apparently, they also believe in Santa Claus that they are special and that someone is interested in their successful life and everyone owes and owes them everything. Where is the crowd of runaway whiners-donators? Ah, they're all here. Also looking forward to updates.
And some will even donate. Yes, you can hang noodles on your ear and milk for money forever.

 

[FavenXXX]

The game is very good

But [P and P] as a developer is getting worse and worse Updates are becoming rarer and the postponement of updates for Lily is becoming more and more frequent (Postponing the release date of updates for an unknown period from a couple of days to months !)

(I haven't been a sponsor of [P and P] for a long time, so I don't really have to complain
Two reasons to complain about [P and P] is
1) [P and P] is doing fewer and fewer updates per YEAR!! and
2) postponed the release of updates for Lily more and more often! )

Soon the update will be released once every 12 months
(Joke haha though knowing [P and P] in the near future it may be so )

[P and P] used to be better and updates came out more often !

 

[googunogu]

Maybe it has something to do with outsourcing? Perhaps he uses this function for animation, translation, or something else. It's just that it's more like it doesn't depend on him. It's as if they themselves are waiting for some kind of result, and it seems to me that this is not at all connected with the transition to a new month of payment. Although it can just fix errors and testing takes so much time. In any case, it is unpleasant, of course, for all parties.

 

[gabich69]

Sooooooo the dev said its gonna be released in February then he said at the beginning of March and then last week he said "this weekend" We are already monday and still nothing lmao?
What is his last answer ? "sorry guys some problems happened but the game will be ready during this month?"

It's horrible to see a developer playing with us like that. If he knows for weeks that the update is not ready why tell us that its coming?? I really do not understand.

 

[FMag]

Sooooooo the dev said its gonna be released in February then he said at the beginning of March and then last week he said "this weekend" We are already monday and still nothing lmao?
What is his last answer ? "sorry guys some problems happened but the game will be ready during this month?"

It's horrible to see a developer playing with us like that. If he knows for weeks that the update is not ready why tell us that its coming?? I really do not understand.

You are right, but at this point I'd rather have no more messages from him and wait for the update to appear. Any other excuse now would feel very disrespectful.

 

[M.Voigt]

Yes, it's been fewer and fewer releases per year, and for me the problem it's not the time itself he takes to release, it's the content of the update vs the time to realease it... for me it don't justify, for example, wait 7 months to play 3 or 4 scenes.
There are other games that take that long to release but the content is much higher and the renders/animations give much more work than this one, so that's justifiable, "Being a DIK" for example, but there's others.
In those games as you play the update you see the time spent, in this one, in the last few updates I don't see work to justify 6 or 7 months, for the content showed 2-3 months tops.

But who am I to complaint, I'm not patreon and there's a lot of other games to play.

I like the game, but I don't see a bright future to it if this continues, most likely it will be abandoned, what is a shame.

 

[locopogo1]

Yes, it's been fewer and fewer releases per year, and for me the problem it's not the time itself he takes to release, it's the content of the update vs the time to realease it... for me it don't justify, for example, wait 7 months to play 3 or 4 scenes.
There are other games that take that long to release but the content is much higher and the renders/animations give much more work than this one, so that's justifiable, "Being a DIK" for example, but there's others.
In those games as you play the update you see the time spent, in this one, in the last few updates I don't see work to justify 6 or 7 months, for the content showed 2-3 months tops.

But who am I to complaint, I'm not patreon and there's a lot of other games to play.

I like the game, but I don't see a bright future to it if this continues, most likely it will be abandoned, what is a shame.

the author lost the support of people because he released updates very rarely, now the patrons never exceeds 250, such a small number of people does not give him a normal income, so he develops the game only in his spare time, of course it is his fault and no one but him is to blame, but now it's not so important, it has long been unable to reach even an income of $ 1,500, so you can forget about the faster release of updates, for me, this is very bad news, because Lily's story deserves more, and I don't want this game to be abandoned

 

[FMag]

There is also another element that in recent months has begun to make supporters doubt the time it takes to develop games: fan art.
One of the clearest examples of this is True Bond. Despite the various excuses for the rendering time, there have been some users who in their spare time were able to publish even 4 or 5 images per day (with very good quality); so waiting 5 months for 200/250 renders (with the coding part and the rest obvious) is not realistic. So talking about LOTV, all this time simply means that he's not working on the game, which is fine, but at least be honest.

 

[mihnea fotescu]

Last year I was accused around here that I am too hars with the developper. I took a step back, no comments, not playing the game etc. Now I see that there are a lot of people annoyed by the antiques pulled by P and P. They are scammers, end of discussion. They just want to milk the patrons and they do not give a foot about there own game. The saddest thing is that Lily is undeniable one of the most stunning figures created in these type of games and the story had initialy some strong points. Probably somewhere in mid april the game will be updated and then again in mid september, but hey, does it worth playing, even for free (not to mention as a patron) this game? I think not. But as long as the creators will have their cohort of die hard supporters, scammers will alaways be around us. I really prefer honesty: if a developper had enough with a game, it's better to aknwoledge that in front of his community and thats it, the game is over, everybody can live their life further without any problems. but milking contributors month after month and delivering sub par updates... thats simply a nasty approach. The only thing that P and P can do now is to have a clean slate: they need to adress in honesty the situation and to say it clear if they have the time and passion to continue with this story of Lily (and doing it in a proper way, with constant updates, maybe 4 or 5 significant updates per year) or they stop with this game, so the people around here and there patrons will not have further expecations anymore... for those wanting to play a nice game, with interesting stroy and sexy characters, try The Night Driver, for me this one was a revelation last month when i discover it.

 

[CRBM01]

The big problem is piracy.

 

[FavenXXX]

The game is very interesting and good! Lily of the Valley also has a huge potential (You can show and tell a lot of things, you can also add a lot) Personally, my opinion is: I don't want the game Lily of the Valley to be abandoned and changed to another game!!! And I hope the game will develop further ! Abandoning Lily of the Valley , which has a huge potential, would be very stupid !

And here's an example: (A scene with workers in a Tavern, during the construction of a house (So it's generally a fire and not a scene ) A scene in Nicole and Lily's Nightclub, A Scene in a Strip Bar , A TV Show with Lily Wow that was Lily's fire The artist, And Fred's scenes with Fred are also very interesting and many more other Scenes )
All these scenes are a very good example Of Lily of the Valley just has a huge untold and untold potential !!!
You can 't give up such a game and such a project !
Abandoning such a game is a loss for everyone, both for the creator of the game and for Sponsors and Fans, everyone has invested TIME AND MONEY in this game (But most importantly, people's time invested in the game)
Abandoning the game means losing time invested in this game by both Authors and sponsors and fans!!!

The game still has a lot to show and tell.
I will hope for the best for the Lily of the Valley game

 

[locopogo1]

The big problem is piracy.

according to statistics, only 5-7 percent of people who downloaded the game illegally were willing to pay for it, if a person does not have free money, he will not spend it on the game, some authors think that if there was no piracy, they would be much richer, but it just works on the contrary, the majority of players, including me, found and downloaded the game illegally, and then when they saw that this is a good product began to support the author financially. We must not forget that if there was no piracy, the author would have to spend money and energy on PR, because the person who downloaded the game for free will easily recommend it to someone else, unlike the person who spent money on it. in place of the authors, I would fight piracy in another way, made a quality product and at the end of each update asked the players to support the game because without financial support there will be no good content that they love so much, so that the players themselves understand that without their support the game cannot exist.

 

[FMag]

according to statistics, only 5-7 percent of people who downloaded the game illegally were willing to pay for it, if a person does not have free money, he will not spend it on the game, some authors think that if there was no piracy, they would be much richer, but it just works on the contrary, the majority of players, including me, found and downloaded the game illegally, and then when they saw that this is a good product began to support the author financially. We must not forget that if there was no piracy, the author would have to spend money and energy on PR, because the person who downloaded the game for free will easily recommend it to someone else, unlike the person who spent money on it. in place of the authors, I would fight piracy in another way, made a quality product and at the end of each update asked the players to support the game because without financial support there will be no good content that they love so much, so that the players themselves understand that without their support the game cannot exist.

Agreed. A lot of famous games are what they are thanks to this forum.

 

[mihnea fotescu]

according to statistics, only 5-7 percent of people who downloaded the game illegally were willing to pay for it, if a person does not have free money, he will not spend it on the game, some authors think that if there was no piracy, they would be much richer, but it just works on the contrary, the majority of players, including me, found and downloaded the game illegally, and then when they saw that this is a good product began to support the author financially. We must not forget that if there was no piracy, the author would have to spend money and energy on PR, because the person who downloaded the game for free will easily recommend it to someone else, unlike the person who spent money on it. in place of the authors, I would fight piracy in another way, made a quality product and at the end of each update asked the players to support the game because without financial support there will be no good content that they love so much, so that the players themselves understand that without their support the game cannot exist.

Yep, exactly my thoughts also about this „problem”. Thanks to this forum I have discovered some good games, but at first when i'vre tried them, i didnt support financially the developper. Afterwards, i had submitted my pledge for the respective creators (from deepsleep to P and P and others like DamagedCoda, DarkCoven etc). The real problem is that a lot of the creators tend to disappoint at some level, so I lost interest in some games and i didnt renew after some time some of my subscriptions. I am sure that making a game is not an easy task, but at their peak, many creators had reached their targets and the game didnt evolved in terms of fast updates, on the contrary. I think that if a game is good and if the creator is serious, many players around here tend to help financially the respective creator, even though they might have started playing the game ilegally.

 

[Jortomg]

Maybe it has something to do with outsourcing? Perhaps he uses this function for animation, translation, or something else. It's just that it's more like it doesn't depend on him. It's as if they themselves are waiting for some kind of result, and it seems to me that this is not at all connected with the transition to a new month of payment. Although it can just fix errors and testing takes so much time. In any case, it is unpleasant, of course, for all parties.

Not so, the problem of out date depends entirely on him. The fairest thing to do would be to remove any patreon and have someone else take over its project.
He's been making fun of people like that for years since release 1.6. It's a clown

 

[locopogo1]

i still can't believe he's not going to release a new version in march it's just incredible insolence, but on the other hand if the people who pay for it tolerate it then to some extent they deserve it!

 

[Afma]

Renpy por Android ??

 

[MeeperMooper]

I feel like i have heard this before Probably just me...