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In Danny Stays + Cheating Route, Lisa left Troy with massive blue balls. I hope in the upcoming update, Troy gets his revenge, sprays his manhood all over Lisa and then actually takes a piss on her gorgeous tits.

This Piss Play dialogue might be foreshadowing something... I just wanna see how the "Piss Play" might get introduced...


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Non-sexual scenes with Aoife will not be optional, because she's one of the central characters of the story, but sex scenes between Lisa and Aoife will be optional.



Someone posts that he hopes that the rape scenes in the game will continue to be optional, and you reply that you hope he's not trying to justify pedophilia. This has to be one of the most mind boggling examples of non sequitur that I've ever seen.



First, the statements that "most games here" and "almost all adult games" contain incest can be easily shown to be incorrect. About five minutes of effort on my part revealed that there are roughly 15,000 different adult games posted on this site, and only about 1,000 have the "incest" tag.

Now, we can probably safely assume that some games which contain incest content are missing the tag. But even so, it can't be a difference of 14,000 games. Even if we generously assume that the correct number would be double the number of games which currently have the tag, that would still leave a ratio of 6.5 non-incest games for every 1 incest game.

Second, your assumption that all incest games are merely pedophilia simulators in disguise is also incorrect. Some of the incest games only contain brother/sister incest between adult siblings. Many others include mother/son or father/daughter incest which involves clearly adult daughters or sons, such as stories about a son who returns home from college and then begins an incestuous affair with his now widowed mother.

So no, we do not all know that these games have been created with the intention of fantasizing about sex with minors.
How old do you think Paul in this game look like to you ? 18 ? Or young brother of the Lisa's boyfriend? You can clear / escape incest contents by changing titles like "landlady" etc. but you can't change physicall appearances. Paul and the other boy are clearly below 18, which is makes it pedophilia. And it seems no one have problem of this, shockingly.

Numbers you have searched are incorrect. Like I told above, you can escape incest content by changing some story name and titles. But they still include lots of minors in games (neighbor's/friend's son/girl) and they are not all "adults returning from college" , there are many young people in games who look like Paul, you can clearly tell by looking that he / she is not 18.
 
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Cheers :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
Dude, will you ever learn to put this stuff in spoilers? Myself and others have asked you to do so more than once. It's not a hard thing to do.

There are lots of people in this thread who just started the game, or who have stated that they're waiting for the party to be finished to play through the new content.

I mean, you don't have to oblige us. You're not breaking any rules. You can certainly continue to do whatever seems good to you. But it's generally considered courteous to not post new images in the open, or openly discuss new scenes. And it's so easy to use spoiler tags. It's not like anyone asked you to do something difficult.
 

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Dude, will you ever learn to put this stuff in spoilers? Myself and others have asked you to do so more than once. It's not a hard thing to do.

There are lots of people in this thread who just started the game, or who have stated that they're waiting for the party to be finished to play through the new content.

I mean, you don't have to oblige us. You're not breaking any rules. You can certainly continue to do whatever seems good to you. But it's generally considered courteous to not post new images in the open, or openly discuss new scenes. And it's so easy to use spoiler tags. It's not like anyone asked you to do something difficult.
SHIT man... I honestly forgot... My bad... I'll be careful next time :) :)
 

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How old do you think Paul in this game look like to you ? 18 ? Or young brother of the Lisa's boyfriend?

You can clear / escape incest contents by changing titles like "landlady" etc. but you can't change physicall appearances. Paul and the other boy are clearly below 18, which is makes it pedophilia. And it seems no one have problem of this, shockingly.
Yes, Paul looks 18, or maybe even 19.

Not that you can tell by looks. Every time I hear this argument, I have to roll my eyes. You can't actually tell someone's age just by looking at their face. Some people look younger than they are, and some people look older. I was often able to get into "adults only" establishments when I was 16 and 17 years old without having to show ID, because I have always looked a lot older than I am. On the other hand, you have someone like popular cosplayer, AlisaPikaPika (see below). She looks like she's about 14, doesn't she? But she's actually 30 years old.


Yes, sometimes it's clear that someone is trying to add underage characters to a game and just call them "over 18", but that's not just down to things like height, muscularity, or how their face looks. Paul does not look underage. And, while I can't really speak for the developer, I'm confident that he was never meant to look underage.

Numbers you have searched are incorrect.
Oh, they are, are they? And you have the correct numbers? What are these correct numbers? And how did you find them? Did you search for them?

This response of yours just amounts to the child's schoolyard argument of "I am right and you are wrong." There's no refutation here. There's no fact checking. There's no counter argument with opposing data.

The numbers I posted are correct. And anyone who wants to do five minutes worth of work can verify the numbers for themselves.

Like I told above, you can escape incest content by changing some story name and titles. But they still include lots of minors in games (neighbor's/friend's son/girl) and they are not all "adults returning from college" , there are many young people in games who look like Paul, you can clearly tell by looking that he / she is not 18.
Again, you can't always tell just by looking. I agree that some people are trying to sneak around the watchdogs with various kinds of camouflage. But it's not nearly so widespread as you're trying to make out, and it's not happening in this game.

SHIT man... I honestly forgot... My bad... I'll be careful next time :) :)
It would be appreciated. Thank you.
 
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Yes, Paul looks 18, or maybe even 19.

Not that you can tell by looks. Every time I hear this argument, I have to roll my eyes. You can't actually tell someone's age just by looking at their face. Some people look younger than they are, and some people look older. I was often able to get into "adults only" establishments when I was 16 and 17 years old without having to show ID, because I have always looked a lot older than I am. On the other hand, you have someone like popular cosplayer, AlisaPikaPika (see below). She looks like she's about 14, doesn't she? But she's actually 30 years old.


Yes, sometimes it's clear that someone is trying to add underage characters to a game and just call them "over 18", but that's not just down to things like height, muscularity, or how their face looks. Paul does not look underage. And, while I can't really speak for the developer, I'm confident that he was never meant to look underage.



Oh, they are, are they? And you have the correct numbers? What are these correct numbers? And how did you find them? Did you search for them?

This response of yours just amounts to the child's schoolyard argument of "I am right and you are wrong." There's no refutation here. There's no fact checking. There's no counter argument with opposing data.

The numbers I posted are correct. And anyone who wants to do five minutes worth of work can verify the numbers for themselves.



Again, you can't always tell just by looking. I agree that some people are trying to sneak around the watchdogs with various kinds of camouflage. But it's not nearly so widespread as you're trying to make out, and it's not happening in this game.



It would be appreciated. Thank you.
Paul is not even 16. He and other boy (Danny's brother i forgot his name) are definitely minors.
Paul and other boy max 15.

Not that i asked about your life experience, but you can't make it right telling one night club experience of yours. most people have this story.

AlisaPikaPika has definitely ADULT physic. Her body chest curves breasts are clearly mature. Only her face is looks young.

Yes, you can tell someone's age by looking. it is not just face.

After 18 you can't grow height. Girls mostly surpass boys with height in early teen, but boys surpass girls around 18 and remains same.
Paul is much shorter than Lisa (and she is around 19), narrow shoulders and chest and his body is not mature. And same with other boy(Danny's brother).

Dude, other guys in game Byron Troy, guys in camping trips are around 18 / 19, maybe 20. And you'are saying Paul is maybe 19. just compare them.

I don't know if you are friend with Devs but they put this child models with this exact intentions. Another populer game AWAM and Project Myriam have also these "child models"

Fashion Business had a boy called Bardie (he was yelling all the time he is 18 ) in Ep1. but they immediately removed it in Ep2 because MC had sexual interaction with Bardie. And now no child characters.

Correct numbers are the one when you get randomly and make a average percentage of your own.

Play 20 30 random games here without any searching tags etc and look at the results.
 
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After 18 you can't grow height.
That is not quite correct, sorry! It depends on your Wachstumsfugen/"growth plates" and when they close, how long you can potentially grow taller. If they are open you can grow, it is not a must, depends on several factors.
In some cases the growth plates close early around 13/14, but they can also stay open until you are 25/26, even if this is rare and most peoples growth plates close around age 20.
 

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and thought of this thread
 

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Paul is not even 16. He and other boy (Danny's brother i forgot his name) are definitely minors.
Paul and other boy max 15.

Not that i asked about your life experience, but you can't make it right telling one night club experience of yours. most people have this story.

AlisaPikaPika has definitely ADULT physic. Her body chest curves breasts are clearly mature. Only her face is looks young.

Yes, you can tell someone's age by looking. it is not just face.

After 18 you can't grow height. Girls mostly surpass boys with height in early teen, but boys surpass girls around 18 and remains same.
Paul is much shorter than Lisa (and she is around 19), narrow shoulders and chest and his body is not mature. And same with other boy(Danny's brother).

Dude, other guys in game Byron Troy, guys in camping trips are around 18 / 19, maybe 20. And you'are saying Paul is maybe 19. just compare them.

I don't know if you are friend with Devs but they put this child models with this exact intentions. Another populer game AWAM and Project Myriam have also these "child models"

Fashion Business had a boy called Bardie (he was yelling all the time he is 18 ) in Ep1. but they immediately removed it in Ep2 because MC had sexual interaction with Bardie. And now no child characters.

Correct numbers are the one when you get randomly and make a average percentage of your own.

Play 20 30 random games here without any searching tags etc and look at the results.
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How old do you think Paul in this game look like to you ? 18 ? Or young brother of the Lisa's boyfriend? You can clear / escape incest contents by changing titles like "landlady" etc. but you can't change physicall appearances. Paul and the other boy are clearly below 18, which is makes it pedophilia. And it seems no one have problem of this, shockingly.

Numbers you have searched are incorrect. Like I told above, you can escape incest content by changing some story name and titles. But they still include lots of minors in games (neighbor's/friend's son/girl) and they are not all "adults returning from college" , there are many young people in games who look like Paul, you can clearly tell by looking that he / she is not 18.
pedophile? I hope you know what pedophilia means. There are no real people in these games, no children or animals are harmed. Be careful when using terms that have a very heavy incriminating meaning. If there is a real child, you can only talk about pedophilia.
 

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honestly in these games where sexual content is common you're bound to run into things that borderline inappropriate aspects of it. The amount of depravity is dependent upon the audience that it attracts. Developers are constantly pushing their limits and developing ideas and scenarios for their content. Pale Grass seems to have his head on straight as he doesn't go too far into content that goes beyond that into well inappropriate for his fans. But content creators will run into a set of people that enjoy content that makes them uncomfortable, the key thing is to have an idea of where you're taking it and how far you can take things too. Some people will enjoy certain aspects of actions others love the flow of things too. Developing a loveable characters tends to give you versatility and better results as your audience grows
 
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I don't know if you are friend with Devs but they put this child models with this exact intentions. Another populer game AWAM and Project Myriam have also these "child models"
AWAM and Project Myriam had incest problems with Patreon and not so much for the minors involved.
Fashion Business had a boy called Bardie (he was yelling all the time he is 18 ) in Ep1. but they immediately removed it in Ep2 because MC had sexual interaction with Bardie. And now no child characters.
F.B. Bardie up to the end of Ep 2 was there, because it was first kicked off Steam, without any warning or right of reply then the DEV, in order not to lose Patreon as well, removed it at the beginning of Ep 3.
 

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AWAM and Project Myriam had incest problems with Patreon and not so much for the minors involved.

F.B. Bardie up to the end of Ep 2 was there, because it was first kicked off Steam, without any warning or right of reply then the DEV, in order not to lose Patreon as well, removed it at the beginning of Ep 3.
Yo Geko! you changed your profile pic?.... nice :cool: :cool:
 
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AlisaPikaPika has definitely ADULT physic. Her body chest curves breasts are clearly mature. Only her face is looks young.

Yes, you can tell someone's age by looking. it is not just face.
Sometimes you can ballpark someone's age by looking, but not as often as you seem to think, and certainly not all the time.

You admit that AlisaPikaPika's face looks young, but you think that you can tell that she's an adult because of her curvy body. Perhaps you've never heard of Traci Lords. Everyone who looked at her body was totally convinced that she was over 18. Then it turned out that she was barely 16. It was the scandal that nearly destroyed the entire porn industry in the US. And why did it happen? Because most people cannot reliably judge someone's age by looking.

After 18 you can't grow height.
Yes, some people do. It's not very common, but it happens.

Paul is much shorter than Lisa (and she is around 19), narrow shoulders and chest and his body is not mature.
You think that Lisa is about 19? You're showing how ignorant you actually are about the characters in this game. Lisa is graduating from college. We also know that she can legally drink. These two facts combined mean that she's 21, at the youngest, and possibly as old as 23, or even 24, if she went for a bachelor's degree.

As for Paul being shorter than Lisa, he is a bit shorter, but not "much shorter", as you claim. Even at 16, a male would normally be taller than an adult female, so you clearly can't judge their ages solely by their heights. Either Lisa is taller than average, and we haven't seen any sign of that when she stands beside other girls or guys, or Paul is shorter than average. I would say that the safest bet is that he's shorter than average. Some boys are over 6' tall before they turn 14, and some fully grown men are 5'7". Do we assume that the short adult male is younger than the abnormally tall 14 year old? No.

Dude, other guys in game Byron Troy, guys in camping trips are around 18 / 19, maybe 20. And you'are saying Paul is maybe 19. just compare them.
I am comparing them. Paul is clearly younger than the other guys. But since you're way off about the ages of the other guys, that doesn't mean much. Jayce and Troy are in Lisa's graduating class in college, which means that they're both probably within a year of her age. Byron is also likely around her age, so anywhere from 21 to 24 years old. The same for Calvin, Gunnar, and Danny. All of them are in their 20s.

Paul, Connor, and Mark are all younger, but only by a few years. Those three are all close to the same age, which will be about 18 or 19.

Paul is not even 16. He and other boy (Danny's brother i forgot his name) are definitely minors.
Paul and other boy max 15.
Never try to open an age guessing booth at a carnival. You'll lose your shirt.

Also, who the hell is Danny's brother? Where in this game have you seen any reference to Danny having a brother?

I don't know if you are friend with Devs but they put this child models with this exact intentions. Another populer game AWAM and Project Myriam have also these "child models"
They aren't child models. Go find the models in the Daz store. Daz does sell child models. These models are teen models. And "teen" includes 18 and 19.

Fashion Business had a boy called Bardie (he was yelling all the time he is 18 ) in Ep1. but they immediately removed it in Ep2 because MC had sexual interaction with Bardie. And now no child characters.
Yes, I play Fashion Business, and I'm very familiar with the Bardie controversy. Bardie was also not a child model. The Bardie model was a teen model, which is fitting for a character who is supposed to be 18, and therefore a teenager. Bardie was declared to be 18 years old, and was in college. A lot of people thought that he looked young, but once again, there are a lot of young looking 18 years olds.

Decent Monkey (the developer of Fashion Business) was not forced to remove Bardie because he was an underage character. He was forced to remove the character because the over-reaching censors at Patreon arbitrarily decided that he was underage. As usual with censorship, the censors are the ones who were wrong.

Also, Bardie was not immediately removed in Episode 2. He was removed about halfway through Episode 2.

Correct numbers are the one when you get randomly and make a average percentage of your own.

Play 20 30 random games here without any searching tags etc and look at the results.
You think that this is how you get an accurate statistical representation of the approximate percentage of adult games which include incest? Why would you take a random 0.1% to 0.2% sampling, when you have the ability to look at the size of the total pool of incest games, relative to the total pool of all games?
 

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Most of the time when you come across badly spelled or used words, you just roll your eyes and move on :rolleyes: - but this one had me giggling. :giggle:

During the evening of the camping trip, Danny says:
"It's a bit more innocent then you're eluding to I think."​

The painful grammar aside, it's the word spelling that hit me:
  • Alluding: Making an indirect reference.
  • Eluding: Avoiding or dodging.
(Note: Despite some really ignorant Internet claims, the two words are not homophones. Alluding starts with "ah" and eluding starts with "eh". Although sloppy diction can mutate both to the schwa sound. :unsure:)

And so, I thinks to myself ("Self", I thinks), did he misuse the word and actually mean Lisa was making a silly indirect reference, or is he accusing her of trying to distract him with air-headed cuteness in order to manipulate him to avoid the subject? Given Lisa's recent personality and sexual kink awakenings, it could be either; though the latter would definitely call for some of that girlfriend punishment roleplay they love so well, which may just have been her intention all along. :p

For reference, the more grammatically and word-use correct version of that sentence would be:
"It's a bit more innocent then to what you're alluding, I think."​

I just liked the idea of Lisa playing wordplay dodgeball with poor slow-on-the-uptake Danny only to have him suddenly call her out on it. :cool:
 
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Decent Monkey (the developer of Fashion Business) was not forced to remove Bardie because he was an underage character. He was forced to remove the character because the over-reaching censors at Patreon arbitrarily decided that he was underage. As usual with censorship, the censors are the ones who were wrong.

Also, Bardie was not immediately removed in Episode 2. He was removed about halfway through Episode 2.
This is not correct, but it is as I wrote above, Decent Monkey removed Bardie because he was previously thrown out of Steam, which was the largest source of income and was afraid that Patreon would do the same. The other game that is still on Steam started long after Milfs of Sunville. To this day D.M. makes more money with one game on Steam than with 2 on Patreon.

End Ep2 v.16 there is still talk of Bardie as you see the scene with Monica being Cam girl
From:
Fashion Business: EP2 v16 has been released!

I’m happy to present the newest regular update for the fan-favorite game, “Fashion Business”!

This update includes 1090 new pictures and 65 cool animations!

Please check it out!

Thanks to all of your support, this is definitely not the last update, with many more to come soon!


So, what’s new:

  • Biff’s castings: 2 new events (includes animations)
  • Bardie: Monica becomes a webcam model.
  • VIP Escort Service: a mini-event with your colleagues.
  • Julia: Fred’s appearance and a new scene (animations)
  • Victoria and Melanie: a new girls’ party with Victoria, Melanie and Monica (animations + animated extra scene)
  • Victoria and Monica: an affair between Monica’s employee and Victoria, including a long animated scene with Monica.
  • Falling Path: two new events, including one long and animated (with Extra animated content)
  • Bugfixes
 

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I'm stuck getting through Aoife story. I met her once at coffee shop, but now can never find her again at coffee shop.

I looked at the walkthrough, and it says I should have gone back to coffee shop the next day to meet her again...but if I didn't do that, have I lost her forever?
 

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I'm stuck getting through Aoife story. I met her once at coffee shop, but now can never find her again at coffee shop.

I looked at the walkthrough, and it says I should have gone back to coffee shop the next day to meet her again...but if I didn't do that, have I lost her forever?
No. Just don't read the walkthroughs guides, but Lisa's magazine and you'll understand everything there.
 
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