Ren'Py Abandoned Live Your Dream [v0.1.0] [SantsStudio]

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Grainy images...
Uber ride that cost $600...
Clicked on Aunt's room before bathroom, got booted to main menu...
Save option listed in menu is Load option...
Needs a lot of work.
 

ClockworkGnome

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Unfortunately I cannot give any spoilers about the story
I understand the desire of creators to keep quiet about what their games are about, because they want to avoid spoiling early surprises, twists, or giving away too much of the plot before the player even starts.

The problem is, it makes so many game descriptions utterly generic, to the point where the descriptions kind of become useless. When every game is basically described as "This is a game! You will get to make choices! There will be people you can have sex with, and stuff will happen!", there's nothing that really stands out from all the other games that describe themselves the exact same way. And worse, it's a redundant description because we already know all those things implicitly when we see a Ren'py game being posted on an adult game site with screenshots of naked people (or genre tags that tell us sex will be happening).

I feel like even a little bit of extra info can go a long way towards making a game stand out and making people interested in playing/supporting it. Is it a light-hearted game where you're mostly just choosing who you want to screw? A psychological drama where characters will slowly come to terms with past traumas? A goofy buddy cop comedy? Is your neighbor secretly a vampire? Are you eventually going to become an action hero and explore ancient tombs? Is there a sinister conspiracy that the MC has to fight? Is the MC's father dead, and there's probably a mafia somewhere in town (aka the standard AVN package)?

There are definitely ways to give a little bit of extra spice without having to give the entire plot of your game from start to finish away. Even "You've inherited a hotel and are going to use it to assemble a harem of love interests" (cliche as it might be) tells me more than "You will make choices that will determine the ending!"

I mean, Choose Your Own Adventure novels didn't just say "Hey, you can make choices and there will be multiple endings!", they'd also give you a little back-cover blurb telling you "This is the one where you're a spy!" or "This is the one where you're a treasure hunter!" or "This is the one where you start a rock band!" or "This is the one where you're a ninja!" or even "This is the one where the writer was really high on LSD when he wrote it!"


I'm weird at playing, and without the possibility of a harem I'm not likely to be interested in a game: I'm very unlikely to play again, so I prefer to be able to be with all the LIs that interest me in the first game (and have a unique ending to them).
For me, I don't mind the lack of a harem ending so much, so long as the game either makes it very clear you should focus on one girl over the others very early on (possibly before you start playing), or at least allows you to pursue multiple LIs early on but then make your choice of which one to dedicate yourself to later without having all of them dump you for cheating. Or having the ones you break up be utterly devastated and emotionally wrecked because you didn't choose them.

I'm also not a huge fan of stories where it's implied that any girl you don't do the romance route for winds up miserable and alone (or worse) without you. I think an ideal game for me would be one where you can "friendship route" any girl you don't romance, so you can still help them out with their issues and get them a happy ending even if you're not screwing them.

Though along those lines, I'm also kind of annoyed by games that either start you off in a relationship or force you into one early on, so the first girl you see becomes the "canon" love interest, and the only way to date anyone else is to break their heart or cheat. Especially if the first girl is relatively sweet and loveable - it's a lot easier to justify kicking a bitch to the curb than a sweetheart. I think the ideal set-up is to have the MC start out single, introduce all of the LIs early, and only start giving the options to seriously pursue them once the player has a clear idea of what their options are (and the consequences - ie, whether harems are possible, if dating more than one girl will piss all of them off, etc).

Though it also depends on the genre. If you're playing a corruption game where you're breaking every LI you come across, harem ending feels pretty much necessary.
 

BlasKyau

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For me, I don't mind the lack of a harem ending so much, so long as the game either makes it very clear you should focus on one girl over the others very early on (possibly before you start playing), or at least allows you to pursue multiple LIs early on but then make your choice of which one to dedicate yourself to later without having all of them dump you for cheating. Or having the ones you break up be utterly devastated and emotionally wrecked because you didn't choose them.

I'm also not a huge fan of stories where it's implied that any girl you don't do the romance route for winds up miserable and alone (or worse) without you. I think an ideal game for me would be one where you can "friendship route" any girl you don't romance, so you can still help them out with their issues and get them a happy ending even if you're not screwing them.

Though along those lines, I'm also kind of annoyed by games that either start you off in a relationship or force you into one early on, so the first girl you see becomes the "canon" love interest, and the only way to date anyone else is to break their heart or cheat. Especially if the first girl is relatively sweet and loveable - it's a lot easier to justify kicking a bitch to the curb than a sweetheart. I think the ideal set-up is to have the MC start out single, introduce all of the LIs early, and only start giving the options to seriously pursue them once the player has a clear idea of what their options are (and the consequences - ie, whether harems are possible, if dating more than one girl will piss all of them off, etc).
Well, I usually don't play more than once, so I find it difficult to choose when there is more than one LI that I like. I'd rather go to another game where I don't have that problem. As it's really complex that I'm only interested in a LI in a game, so it's also difficult that I'm interested in a game without the harem tag.

On the other hand, I'm not a fan of games where the only way to have a relationship with other LIs is by cheating on an imposed girlfriend. Nor of those where the LIs with which the MC doesn't have a relationship end up miserable. Although since I almost exclusively play harem games, I don't usually find these things.

Though it also depends on the genre. If you're playing a corruption game where you're breaking every LI you come across, harem ending feels pretty much necessary.
I'm more of games with romance. I don't care that corruption exists if there is romance in it.
 

Professor Black

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-unfortunately its barebones at the moment, 3minutes into the game and your kicked to sandbox room where u go through a bunch of rooms to "explore", one of the said rooms kicks you to the main menu, going to the washroom will kick you back to the intro of the aunt.
-5 minutes of "story" max as of v02b.
-lots of "coming soon" rooms
-judging from the phone icon, this is going to possibly be a timetable type of sandbox (find the character in their respective location on this specific time/day/week)
 

ClockworkGnome

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Well, I usually don't play more than once, so I find it difficult to choose when there is more than one LI that I like.
It's usually not a huge problem for me because I generally only really gravitate to one or two LIs in any given game anyway, especially games where the LIs either have a wide range of personalities or fetishes. So at most I might go back to play a second time to see what happens with the other girl I don't choose first time around.

Though it also depends on how complex the game is. If it's relatively easy to play through a story multiple times to get different content/see different endings, it's not so bad. But if there's a lot of grind or complicated mechanics involved in setting up which LI you're going to wind up with, I tend to be more inclined to just do one run and not bother with others, even if they were sort of enticing first time around.


I'm more of games with romance. I don't care that corruption exists if there is romance in it.
Not going to lie, I definitely tend to play most AVNs more with an eye for romance and consensual hand-holding than I do to exploit every kink or corrupt every girl. To the point where I'll generally pass up content or optional sex scenes if it makes more sense to me that the MC wouldn't want to cheat on their current partner or corrupt someone innocent they're already sort of in love with. If a game offers both "love" and "corruption" routes I'll generally default to love.

I've got a lot of games with half-empty scene galleries because I refused to chase after certain girls, engage with kinks I'm not into, or otherwise whore myself out (especially when playing as a female protagonist).

Full corruption games (or corruption routes in games with multiple possible routes) mostly only appeal to me when the game makes the targets either kind of assholes or otherwise completely unobtainable, so it kind of justifies why you'd be willing to take that step.
 
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Vrijgeest

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About the incest, if it's with the MC's aunt and cousins, in my country he could even marry them if he wanted (with one, not more, but nothing prevents having the others as lovers). On the other hand, the rest of incest (Father with daughter, mother with son, brother with sister ...) isn't illegal either. You just can't marry a relative who is less than three steps away on your family tree (that is, you can marry your niece, but not your sister).

I guess that each country has a different appreciation of how to treat incest.
The trouble is F95 has a very American idea about incest. In my country if both are adults and no kids are produced it is not incest. Marriage is another ball game.
 

BlasKyau

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The trouble is F95 has a very American idea about incest. In my country if both are adults and no kids are produced it is not incest. Marriage is another ball game.
Each country has its laws. Here it's legal as long as both are adults (getting married is something different; but you always have the de facto union, which is legally a step before marriage). Something similar happens with nudism; here there is no law that requires you to walk down the street dressed (although some municipalities do have municipal regulations in this regard, outside any municipal term nudism is perfectly legal, as in almost all municipalities) Technically nudism is legal throughout the country.
 

Vrijgeest

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Each country has its laws. Here it's legal as long as both are adults (getting married is something different; but you always have the de facto union, which is legally a step before marriage). Something similar happens with nudism; here there is no law that requires you to walk down the street dressed (although some municipalities do have municipal regulations in this regard, outside any municipal term nudism is perfectly legal, as in almost all municipalities) Technically nudism is legal throughout the country.
I think we live in the same sane country?
 

Joi_fan

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I hope we can meet the real mom and aunt in the future, because step family just doesn't cut it for me.
 

Valmora

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Sorry, but, the renders really suck and the garbage dialogue doesn't help at all...
Would be interesting to see where this story is suppose to go, but you need to get a proof reader...
 

BlasKyau

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Nope , NL
But becoming more and more narrowminded.
Slowly going back to the 1950's.
But with new technology.
We had a dictatorship here in the 1950s, so I wouldn't want to go back to those times.
 
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