- Thread starter Shadesishere
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Plss separate FanTL and Kagura... most Kagura release is always unplayable on emulator
Plss separate FanTL and Kagura... most Kagura release is always unplayable on emulator
- Apr 5, 2020
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Oh don't worry, even in the event that Kagura's version is actually good and up-to-date (including the DLC), the saves won't be compatible and I'd bet most people won't want to start over from scratch because of that.
It was the same with Monochrome, it still has separate downloads to this day.
yikers... that trailer
...
It's really bad.
- low quality slideshow presentation.
- bland descriptions of characters.
- low effort english translation of said bland descriptors.
- storyline mistakes.
- title is not just bad but wrong, like seriously, dlsite already translated it for you, and then you still fucked it up retranslating it, wtf kagura.
- says the game has a
・ "unique monochrome theme"
rather than
・"inusuku's fantastic monochromatic flair"
- you can tell that neither the people who made the title nor the trailer had any clue that it is the second game in the seikatsu series.
- zero cute circle emotes.
- zero actual gameplay.
- zero lewd images
- and worst of all, the music... doesn't fit the game's vibe at all, like, inusuku made a banger soundtrack for the game, and these douchebags replaced it with a generic guitar rift.
- it gets worse every time I watch it.
- the trailer wasn't made by anyone who played the game, and it shows.
okay, that settles it, either this weekend or next weekend I'm going to use my slideshow/ video editing/ paint/ japanese skills that I learned back in high school to create a masterpiece trailer and I'm going to create a burner twitter account and @inusuku with it, and tell him that kagura games is clearly and blatantly making the game look worse than it is, and unappealing to a new audience, to the degree that he should reconsider his contract with them, and either get paid some in compensation, or terminate it, as the majority of people buying it would be overseas fans who heard of it through dlsite but couldn't get it through legal means, rather than an audience kagura attracted through their own channels.
I mean, come on, kagura has a shitty rep these days.
I'm also gonna go over their trailer mistakes and titles mistranslations in a separate vid and share that on twitter too.
My next comment will be a biased vote about whether I should reveal to inusuku our community and the mods we have created with passion around their work.
I normally wouldn't mention or consider doing something like this but I really don't want one of my favourite eroge creators being screwed over by a shitty translation aggregator company, even if it results in inusuku themself finding out and maybe having a bad reaction towards our modding / pirating community.
even if the vote doesn't go through I'm still gonna make a better japanese trailer, and tell inusuku as much of my complaints as I can without mentioning or comparing kagura's version to our modded version.
BIASED VOTE
on revealing our community to inusuku in a tweet roasting the mf's at kagura
Hey there
= I was here and I support either outcome
= +0 vote
Thinking Face
= let's not reveal our community, but go ahead and roast kagura's bad trailer
= negative vote
Angry
= let's waste those mf's for giving inusuku a bad deal, who cares if we have to risk a little.
= positive vote
I just jizzed my pants
= I'm braindead, kagura's trailer is lit af, and I would purchase the game with no hesitation if I saw that trailer on steam, with zero prior knowledge of inusuku.
= -0 vote
*long hover/long press emotes to see their name after hovering/pressing the like button.
Shadesishere gets 15 votes for
- translation (10)
- help with ongoing fffox mod (5)
- if the vote goes through:
do I have your permission to show translated images for a second, equivalent, full english trailer with your translations in example images.
- if the vote doesn't go through:
I will stick to japanese ver. gameplay footage and translated annotations like in kagura's trailer.
BlueFireNick gets 15 votes
- ongoing fffox mod
- if the vote goes through:
can I make an intial mod trailer showcasing the fffox mod features?
daseson gets 15 votes for
- ongoing color mod
- if the vote goes through:
can I make a second mod trailer showcasing some coloured scenes and the emotes, if inusuku shows a positive reaction to our modding community, that is.
mello.second gets 10 votes for
- finished decensor mod.
akapp gets 10 votes for
- new image mod.
- if the vote goes through:
can I make a third mod trailer showcasing some of your new cg and post it to twitter.
linylo gets 7 votes
- 1 for posting this
- 2 for mobile color mod port that should have been updated ages ago since daseson colored some new cg, but I'm terrible with procrastination if I don't force myself to keep a schedule. sorry 'bout dat folks.
- 4 for trailer creation.
every other community member gets 1 vote each.
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let's place our bets, how much of Shade's translation will be blatantly copied? I'm betting on a 50% at least
- Mar 14, 2020
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It's quite wrong to leave out BlueFireNick, who is the only coder for the FFFOX mod (technically, he was the one who started the mod, and I joined later)! Despite my drawings, without him there would be no mod itself.
Regarding the proposal itself... I agree with Kagura's criticism, I'm more than sure that the fan trailer can be better than Kagura's trailer (I'll be waiting for it anyway), but if we are to be aggressive, when Inusuku sees this, he may take back the criticism about himself and his game, so +0
In fact, this trailer creates unreasonable expectations in the first seconds when it uses images that, although they are in the files, are not present in the game itself!
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looking at their trailer, and the fact that they can't even get the title correct and congruent with the series, when dlsite has the correct title in their english page for the game.
I'm betting none of it is copied because whoever is translating it has no prior knowledge of the game or series, let alone that there is a passionate modding community who loves the game.
we can hope that their actual translation team rather than whatever internal team made the trailer does a good job with the translation, so whoever downloads the game won't be left with a badly translated game.
ME:
* looks at notes for who to include in the biased poll.
*at the bottom is don't forget nick
"well shit, I stuffed up there."
* edit in progress
okay, I remembered to include nick this time, tysm for catching that, I was using nick's fffox mod.txt file for the spelling of usernames in the credits, and I was like, I'd better remember to include nick as well, and then I wrote the rest of my comment and got nick and shade combined lol.
third and final reply to this particular message.
I will add the use of unused assets to my nitpicking kagura's trailer notes.
also omg, I never noticed the imouto in classroom cg when looking through the files before, that's so cute.
daseson
akapp
*looks over with pleading eyes.
"won't you please work together and give this imouto a (right) hand and color her sometime?"
"plz"
- Apr 4, 2020
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That's a cute idea of introducing reaction farm in the guise of weighted poll, too bad I ain't reading alldat.
And Kagura fucking up even before releasing the product, what a shocker.
eh, people actually want to farm reactions...
I swear I didn't even think of that, I just realised I could see who gave what reaction and it was the first idea that came to mind when making a low effort poll...
I think you should have righteous anger at my poll, and choose the swearing reaction when reacting to it, for no particular reason... xd
+ for anyone curious as to what kagura's mistranslated title looks like when correctly translated into japanese, this is it.
妹と同棲−モノクロームファンタジー−
* this is definitely being included in my tweet.
妹と同棲−モノクロームファンタジー−
* this is definitely being included in my tweet.
- Oct 31, 2022
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life can be weird sometimes.
- I turned on a free vpn to browse ero sites because I was feeling horny
- I checked one of my fav's ci-en accounts for updates, noticed they were letting an eroge translator I kind of dislike do an official translation of their game.
- I have very little curiosity about it because I already have a high quality translation of the game, but I'm in the middle of downloading an ero video and have absolutely nothing better to do, so I click on the steam webpage to watch their trailer, and it is the second most generic piece of garbage I have seen this week.
"welp, that's unfortunate"
- I rewatch their trailer and it gets worse...
- half an hour later and I am deadset on making a better trailer for the original game to give to inusuku and tell them that kagura is frowned upon in english speaking eroge forums, and the trailer they made for them is a blatant example of why.
- an hour later and I'm making a comment to ask my forums modders and users for permission to tell him that he already has a western fanbase, and it can clearly be seen that kagura plans on half assing his game's translation, and I would like him to ask them to either up their game or pay him better compensation for his.
- three hours later and I'm brainstorming trailor ideas and working on translating my thoughts into japanese as I go, and then I realise that the download I started at the beginning timed out when I switched vpn servers for a better connection 2 hours ago.
"Life!" is weird
but it's still a better series title than "living with" kagura's.
wtf how the frick did that become a genius pun at the end of my monologue.
oh well.
- I turned on a free vpn to browse ero sites because I was feeling horny
- I checked one of my fav's ci-en accounts for updates, noticed they were letting an eroge translator I kind of dislike do an official translation of their game.
- I have very little curiosity about it because I already have a high quality translation of the game, but I'm in the middle of downloading an ero video and have absolutely nothing better to do, so I click on the steam webpage to watch their trailer, and it is the second most generic piece of garbage I have seen this week.
"welp, that's unfortunate"
- I rewatch their trailer and it gets worse...
- half an hour later and I am deadset on making a better trailer for the original game to give to inusuku and tell them that kagura is frowned upon in english speaking eroge forums, and the trailer they made for them is a blatant example of why.
- an hour later and I'm making a comment to ask my forums modders and users for permission to tell him that he already has a western fanbase, and it can clearly be seen that kagura plans on half assing his game's translation, and I would like him to ask them to either up their game or pay him better compensation for his.
- three hours later and I'm brainstorming trailor ideas and working on translating my thoughts into japanese as I go, and then I realise that the download I started at the beginning timed out when I switched vpn servers for a better connection 2 hours ago.
"Life!" is weird
but it's still a better series title than "living with" kagura's.
wtf how the frick did that become a genius pun at the end of my monologue.
oh well.
I shall add you to the dissenting side of the poll's tally count.
And it is particularly the steam release by kagura that I do want him to change his thoughts about.
The one thing that I dislike the most, and that I want other people to dislike more, is large companies having a monopoly in a market, and using it to screw over / take advantage of smaller people in the market, or have their own product shrink in quality over time. and kagura fits both of these bills to a tee. from what I can tell kagura is one of the largest eroge translation aggregators, and their quality has gone down as they got bigger, I don't want them profitting from a half assed translation of my favourite eroge of all time.
but at the same time, I don't want to adversely affect the modding community here I have come to like.
so I'm leaving it up to a poll whether I tell inusuku about the fanbase, mods and fan translations, or whether I just tell them that kagura is a company I personally dislike, and here is the proof they are already halfarsing your games advertisement and translation.
which is literally the two things they built their business on.
so yeah... I agree that it is a risk telling inusuku about the modding/pirating/western community.
so I'm not going to say that part unless I have approval/consent/"looking the other way" of the main contributors to this forum, and I'm also not going to say it the overwhelming majority of users who participate in the poll vote against it.
but that and telling inusuku he's being used for profit by kagura are two separate things...
also come on, "sister life! fantasy" has been out for two years now and it's first official video trailer is a crappy one made by a shitty company fuck that
*insert hold my beer meme
- Dec 5, 2020
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*Checks Kagura trailer*
dear god, that was... just crap. no-where in the game does it even mention a mother, bland descriptions, and every screen from the game itself... is still untranslated...
dear god, that was... just crap. no-where in the game does it even mention a mother, bland descriptions, and every screen from the game itself... is still untranslated...
go right ahead, permission granted, you didn't even really need to ask.
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