Belle

Developer of Long Live the Princess
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I do hope that if someone does guess something correctly, you won't change things just to surprise people.
That's not my style. I have plenty of experience running roleplaying games for friends. Sometimes they figure out my mysteries, sometimes they don't. In either case, things progress as planned. If they figured it out, they get the satisfaction of having solved the mystery. The mystery doesn't unravel the way I had imagined it, but I achieved my objective of entertaining them. It's the same here. You figure it out, you get to pat yourself on the back. Besides, most players probably won't use public forums to discuss theories, so things that might seem obvious to people here could completely blindside everyone else.

By the way, nobody has figured out what's actually going on yet. I'm deliberately holding back vital clues for the time being. ;)

If I remember correctly, Belle has said that she works for a mainstream game developer as her day job, or, at the very least, works in game development.
No, I work as a regular software developer, but I do have experience from professional game development as well, as well as from modding (the kind where you create new stories for games).

I agree. I usually dislike games where a single wrong choice in a non-climatic scene can lead to a "Game Over," but, in this instance, it just seems so obvious that I think it would be great.
I considered it at first, but I would honestly be surprised if even one in ten players know what the Leanan Sídhe is. Since going with a character who offers herself up sexually is the natural choice in a porn game, that means the overwhelming majority of players would likely pick the "gotcha" choice and get annoyed. It didn't sound like good game design to me. Besides, my interpretation of the Leanan Sídhe for this setting differs in some subtle but significant ways from the typical way she's presented. I don't want to reveal my hand just yet.

Letting Erato "rescue" the player in this scene was the best way to keep things moving. This scene was never intended as anything other than an introduction to the character anyway.

Both Evelyn and Primrose have received updates since the game's original release.
If you disregard the sleep scenes (where Primrose and Evelyn both got attention because they were practical at the time, while Callie is behind a locked door), Primrose has received as many updates as Callie. The game's first update focused on Callie while the second focused on Primrose. After that, neither has received any attention (besides the sleep scene mentioned above). Callie is more of a late-game character, so she's naturally going to lag behind the others a bit, but I do have some fun plans for her in the short term. Not in this update though.

I think it might be interesting if there is a potential benefit for the promiscuous player there. If the character, at the time of the meeting, has a lot of sexual experience, perhaps he can succeed in holding out and bringing her to orgasm, raising her opinion of him?
This was the original plan in my design document. However, this is one of those cases where design has to play second fiddle to practical concerns upon implementation. The scene was, quite frankly, getting too long and too complicated already. I decided to push back that part of the design for later encounters with her instead. Not being able to satisfy her on the first encounter now serves as a way to motivate the player to return.
 

Nestre

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I considered it at first, but I would honestly be surprised if even one in ten players know what the Leanan Sídhe is. Since going with a character who offers herself up sexually is the natural choice in a porn game, that means the overwhelming majority of players would likely pick the "gotcha" choice and get annoyed. It didn't sound like good game design to me. Besides, my interpretation of the Leanan Sídhe for this setting differs in some subtle but significant ways from the typical way she's presented. I don't want to reveal my hand just yet.
You did her lines and body language very well and she screams "I eat people" from a mile away. Even if she doesn't do so in your world.
 
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That's not my style. I have plenty of experience running roleplaying games for friends. Sometimes they figure out my mysteries, sometimes they don't. In either case, things progress as planned. If they figured it out, they get the satisfaction of having solved the mystery. The mystery doesn't unravel the way I had imagined it, but I achieved my objective of entertaining them. It's the same here. You figure it out, you get to pat yourself on the back. Besides, most players probably won't use public forums to discuss theories, so things that might seem obvious to people here could completely blindside everyone else.

By the way, nobody has figured out what's actually going on yet. I'm deliberately holding back vital clues for the time being. ;)
I knew there was a reason I liked you. Some storytellers get so caught up in having a surprise twist *cough*M. Night Shyamalan*cough* that they don't stop to consider if it's a good twist. In the end, I'm not really concerned if I'm right or wrong, although I do think speculating is fun and I can get pretty obstinate when it comes to my pet theories, in the end, I just want satisfying payoff to the buildup. Don't worry, I'll be here with crazy speculation whenever you do decide it's time to drop the vital clues. Aren't you just thrilled?
No, I work as a regular software developer, but I do have experience from professional game development as well, as well as from modding (the kind where you create new stories for games).
I must have conflated the two. Sorry for spreading misinformation.
I considered it at first, but I would honestly be surprised if even one in ten players know what the Leanan Sídhe is. Since going with a character who offers herself up sexually is the natural choice in a porn game, that means the overwhelming majority of players would likely pick the "gotcha" choice and get annoyed. It didn't sound like good game design to me. Besides, my interpretation of the Leanan Sídhe for this setting differs in some subtle but significant ways from the typical way she's presented. I don't want to reveal my hand just yet.

Letting Erato "rescue" the player in this scene was the best way to keep things moving. This scene was never intended as anything other than an introduction to the character anyway.
You did her lines and body language very well and she screams "I eat people" from a mile away. Even if she doesn't does so in your world.
I agree with Nestre here, although I kind of see your point. I don't think anyone who's actually played your game and read the text would be too tempted by the "gotcha" choice. On the other hand, players who skip all the text just to get to the next sex scene would probably be annoyed. I would be disappointed if those did make up the "overwhelming majority" of your players, since your work beyond your rendering skills deserves to be appreciated, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was a significant chunk.
If you disregard the sleep scenes (where Primrose and Evelyn both got attention because they were practical at the time, while Callie is behind a locked door), Primrose has received as many updates as Callie. The game's first update focused on Callie while the second focused on Primrose. After that, neither has received any attention (besides the sleep scene mentioned above). Callie is more of a late-game character, so she's naturally going to lag behind the others a bit, but I do have some fun plans for her in the short term. Not in this update though.
That's right. The first version I played was version 0.15. I missed version 0.10. So, to me, version 0.20 was the first update. That early numbering scheme is going to bug me until we get to version 0.21.0. Anyway, as I said, develop the game in the way that's most organic for you. I'm sure I'll enjoy whatever you give us. This is more of a case of me making an incorrect assumption, and it getting stuck in my head than anything at this point. At least I'm not one of those players who's always asking for updates of his favorite character: When are we getting a Nell update? When will we be able to sleep with Nell? When will we learn Nell's large secret? :p
This was the original plan in my design document. However, this is one of those cases where design has to play second fiddle to practical concerns upon implementation. The scene was, quite frankly, getting too long and too complicated already. I decided to push back that part of the design for later encounters with her instead. Not being able to satisfy her on the first encounter now serves as a way to motivate the player to return.
I do hope that part of the design document applies to other characters as well. I am always incredulous where you have a virgin or otherwise sexually inexperienced protagonist who ends up some sex god with a magic wang that makes women orgasm without fail, but it would also be boring if his skill never improved and he always failed to fully please them. A mechanic that addresses this would be very welcome.
 

Belle

Developer of Long Live the Princess
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Aren't you just thrilled?
Ecstatic. :p

I do hope that part of the design document applies to other characters as well. I am always incredulous where you have a virgin or otherwise sexually inexperienced protagonist who ends up some sex god with a magic wang that makes women orgasm without fail, but it would also be boring if his skill never improved and he always failed to fully please them. A mechanic that addresses this would be very welcome.
A sex experience ability was something I briefly considered in the early stages of designing the game, but I discarded the idea rather quickly. The biggest problem with it is that it adds a lot of moving pieces and requires a ton of dynamic dialogue for just about every sex scene. Writing these things is hard enough already.
 
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A sex experience ability was something I briefly considered in the early stages of designing the game, but I discarded the idea rather quickly. The biggest problem with it is that it adds a lot of moving pieces and requires a ton of dynamic dialogue for just about every sex scene. Writing these things is hard enough already.
Oh well, guess I can't have it all. It's certainly understandable, though. It sounds like it would be a lot of work for something that isn't really essential.

Okay, one last bit of speculation before I go to bed.
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bobbo69

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My apologies. Early April, the version of Windows 10 I had on my computer stopped being supported, so it forced an update to a newer version--one that was incompatible with my wireless card or my motherboard, among other things. Attempts to restore a previous version failed, and, long story short, I'm need a new computer and then transfer a load of data from my old hard drive. Given various real life necessities, it isn't that high of a priority, and it may be a few more weeks before I'm completely up and running--I've only now managed to download the newest version of the game. I haven't given up on updating the walkthrough, but, if I do get around to doing one for version 0.8.1, it will be very late, and it is more likely I just wait for version 0.9.0.

I apologize again for any inconvenience this may cause anyone.

One quick comment about the new version, though. I'm surprised there isn't a third option regarding the Faerie Queen. Dickon witnessed Merek's vision and knows that mankind is facing extinction--it's also odd that Dickon seemed not to recognize the word when the Faerie Queen used it but understood it when Merek did--and he is aware, via the crone, that Princess Selena seems to be at the nexus of the coming darkness. I feel like that player should have an option to compare notes with the Faerie Queen, but it never even occurs to him that the cataclysm she foresees might be related to the events already surrounding him.
If you do a low level format you will be able to put any version of windows on your computer, the only bad thing about it, is that you will lose everything permanently, but you can make a backup before doing so, I could give you sites to get yourself a descent copy of any version of windows you'd like and fully registered, I know, cause I do it all the time, you can still get updates for windows 98 as well just in case you wondered lol, you just have to know where to look ;) if interested, just drop me a PM
 
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Now, I'm not a semantic purist; semantic shifts are a natural part of language evolution: buxom originally meant obedient, nice originally meant foolish, decimate was originally a synonym of tithe, etc. If languages didn't evolve, this post would look something like .

P.S. Looking forward to speculating with you!
 

Heliophorus

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Indeed, there is no need to get caught up in semantics, at the end of the day when people talk about "ntr" or "cuckshit" they mean that girls are fucked by someone else who's not mc, regardless in what form it happens.
 

zazzaro

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Indeed, there is no need to get caught up in semantics, at the end of the day when people talk about "ntr" or "cuckshit" they mean that girls are fucked by someone else who's not mc, regardless in what form it happens.
Not really, the girl in question needs to be of clear interest for the MC as far as I know.
 

RustyV

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I can certainly understand not thinking clearly when sex is on the table; I think most guys can. That being said, there are times when it is just a Bad Idea™. If, for example, your best friend's girlfriend or wife was really pissed at him about something and tried to seduce you as revenge. There is probably no way you sleeping with her would end well in real life. Another example would be if some minor asked you to sleep with her. While I am familiar with the "Sex: you don't have to ask twice" mentality, I am also familiar with the "Sex: why do I hear alarm bells going off everywhere?" feeling.
You are correct that often there are sex-calamity alarm bells. Still remember when a roommate didn't listen, it could have turned out bad for him.

What I am talking about is doing actions you on your own would probably not do, like breaking into a classroom for fooling around. Or dong something that can have a down side, but not catastrophic. Like letting your hot redheaded dental hygienist talk you into letting her dance a set on stage in the club. That kind of thing, not a life destroying choice just one that means you have to go find a new dentist.
 

peekayy

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Im not sure of the reason why Im playing this game...
- The compelling storyline so far
- The Pixie's sassiness, and sexiness!
- the amazing renders
- It's totally different from the other games

I cant choose!! :( haha! Please keep up the good work, as soon as I have myself sorted, I'll be turning up on the Patreon page!
 
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Kr0w93

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So I really haven't progressed a whole lot. Who's the second chick in the banner? How many scenes does she have?
 
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If you do a low level format you will be able to put any version of windows on your computer, the only bad thing about it, is that you will lose everything permanently, but you can make a backup before doing so, I could give you sites to get yourself a descent copy of any version of windows you'd like and fully registered, I know, cause I do it all the time, you can still get updates for windows 98 as well just in case you wondered lol, you just have to know where to look ;) if interested, just drop me a PM
I appreciate the offer, but I'm going to decline. My old computer was seven years old. I originally got it to play Witcher 2. Over the years, I replaced the power supply, maxed the RAM, and upgraded the graphics card. Even with all of that, it was slipping to obsolescence. The motherboard is no longer supported by the manufacturer and is incompatible with the current version of Windows, which I did finally manage to install, so now it won't even start up. I think it's time to put the old girl down. I've been thinking about an upgrade for over a year now, so this is as much the final push I needed to get off my lazy ass as anything else. I do appreciate the offer, though. Unfortunately, it took a month to come to that conclusion, and right now is kind of busy for me, so I'm not sure when I'll have the time to make the switch.
Indeed, there is no need to get caught up in semantics, at the end of the day when people talk about "ntr" or "cuckshit" they mean that girls are fucked by someone else who's not mc, regardless in what form it happens.
Not really, the girl in question needs to be of clear interest for the MC as far as I know.
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What I am talking about is doing actions you on your own would probably not do, like breaking into a classroom for fooling around. Or dong something that can have a down side, but not catastrophic. Like letting your hot redheaded dental hygienist talk you into letting her dance a set on stage in the club. That kind of thing, not a life destroying choice just one that means you have to go find a new dentist.
Somewhat touching on what I was saying under the spoilers, I'm pretty risk adverse. I'm not really interested in sleeping with every woman in the game, at least, not in a single playthrough. My natural instinct is to play to avoid losses, not to play for wins. It felt like a bad situation I was walking into, and my natural instinct was to have an honest conversation and try to give everyone a way out. That isn't to say that I don't want an option to screw the Fairy Queen, but it doesn't feel like the most logical option to me. On a possibly related not, I hate stories, usually comedies, where the entire premise is based on misunderstandings and the entire plot could be resolved in two minutes if the people involved just had an honest conversation with each other.
So I really haven't progressed a whole lot. Who's the second chick in the banner? How many scenes does she have?
That's Nell. If you're talking "sex" scenes, she has three, two repeatable, but they only cover the masturbation and exhibitionism genres. You'll have to wait for her content to be expanded if you want more.
 

Kr0w93

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Okay, thanks. How soon do you meet her? What do you have to do? I've only meant the librarian, tailor, sister, and crone so far.
 
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Nell is not in town at the start of the game. The first time you enter the streets location, the screen you get when you first leave the house where you get to choose where to go, during the afternoon on any day starting on day 7, you'll see her arrive. The next morning, she'll visit your house and introduce herself.
 
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