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Also, in terms of NTR, if you for some reason want to add that then it's best to keep it optional. Many players will not like a fact that their favorite girl slept around. Call this what you will but that's generally a truth in non NTR focused games. So that scene with sister is fine since you can stop it or let it happen depending on your wishes. If you got it retroactively then that would be bad.
That is what it's always best to make NTR optional, either you can prevent it or not, however you like it. Unless obviously it's voyeurism or the game is NTR focused.
 

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My old computer was seven years old. I originally got it to play Witcher 2. Over the years, I replaced the power supply, maxed the RAM, and upgraded the graphics card. Even with all of that, it was slipping to obsolescence.
Ahh, one of the most amazing games of its time! I remember playing that on my first Alienware 17 I got. So confused about the buttons as it was completely different from the first one!!
 

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Obviously spells won't work on Belle so the MC won't be able to invade her wicked little mind, but I do hope we get a chance to uncover some of her secrets. Like what happened to get her called in front of the Fey Court. What did such a sweet pixie do to that other fairy?
 

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Obviously spells won't work on Belle so the MC won't be able to invade her wicked little mind, but I do hope we get a chance to uncover some of her secrets. Like what happened to get her called in front of the Fey Court. What did such a sweet pixie do to that other fairy?
didnt belle himself said that the reason we cant invade her mind yet is because we are not powerful enough ?
 
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Ahh, one of the most amazing games of its time! I remember playing that on my first Alienware 17 I got. So confused about the buttons as it was completely different from the first one!!
The biggest difference I remember between Witcher and Witcher 2 was the combat. In the original, it was rhythm based. Once you got good at timing your mouse clicks, it was easy to slaughter opponents. In the sequel, I never really did figure out a good method to fight, at least on the highest difficulties, so I spent most of the time doing rolls all over the place, hitting someone once or twice, and then going back to doing rolls. It wasn't pretty, and I always felt there must be a better way, but it worked well enough.
didnt belle himself said that the reason we cant invade her mind yet is because we are not powerful enough ?
I'm pretty sure Belle said that Invade Mind doesn't work on fey at all, and fey characters will work completely differently from human ones. I could be misremembering, though.

Getting back on the topic of the game, there is something I've been pondering since I first played it, and, since it has gotten kind of quiet around here, I figure I'll mention it. When you first go to the library after visiting the crone, Primrose is talking about how Merek used to run the library while she . . . then she stops herself. Belle responds by saying that you could write a book about all the things Primrose is keeping from the player. This got be thinking about a couple of things. The simplest is wondering what Primrose actually did with most of her time at the library before Merek's murder. It wasn't just cleaning and reading, or else she wouldn't feel a need to keep it from Dickon. This very likely ties in with her large and/or dark secrets, and we'll get to it in time.

The second thing that it got me thinking about was gameplay balance. Belle can read minds. It would be very easy for her to read the minds of characters to gain their secrets. Now, she can probably only read surface thoughts, so you'd need to get the target thinking about their secrets, but that scene in the library is an example of how it could be useful. Now, Belle isn't probably the most reliable assistant, and I'm not sure Dickon would trust her in such a capacity immediately, but it does seem like it would be a means of learning secrets with a large amount of utility. On the other hand, in a lot of ways, that would make the gameplay too easy. Belle tells you a secret, you use the secret. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'd like to hear what thoughts @Belle may have given this. On one hand, it seems far too useful a means of acquiring information to ignore completely, but, on the other, it feels like it could upset balance within the game.
 

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Belle can read minds.
I realize now that I've never covered this question in the game. Belle can read the mind of whoever is her master (or acting master) if she has been summoned through magic. Her mind reading is limited to the player for the time being. The Crone, though... we'll just have to wait and see. ;)
 
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So if the crone summoned Belle the pixie could read the crone's mind? AND Belle said she could read the mind of the masturbating river woman (for lack of a better name). So the masturbating river woman (MRW) is the crone?
 
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I realize now that I've never covered this question in the game. Belle can read the mind of whoever is her master (or acting master) if she has been summoned through magic. Her mind reading is limited to the player for the time being. The Crone, though... we'll just have to wait and see. ;)
So if the crone summoned Belle the pixie could read the crone's mind? AND Belle said she could read the mind of the masturbating river woman (for lack of a better name). So the masturbating river woman (MRW) is the crone?
To me, Belle's statement could be interpreted two ways. The first is, as you said, that Belle reading the Crone's mind is another story since the Crone is the one who summoned her. The second is that the Crone reading the minds of others is another story since she has the magic to do so.

I do believe the former to be the correct interpretation, and, as you so astutely pointed out, Belle seemingly being able to read the MRW's thoughts does indicate she's the Crone. It also may explain why, after talking to Thaddeus about Lilith, that Belle feels like she'd a version of the story before but isn't sure where. Belle may have learned the story originally by overhearing the Crone's thoughts.

It does bring another thing to mind, though. If the MRW is the Crone, as many of us have speculated, it's also highly likely that she can see and hear Belle fine, whether Belle wishes her to or not. If that is the case, it's highly likely that she is well aware of Dickon and Belle spying on her at the river since, while Belle admonishes Dickon to be quite, she's taking no measures to be quite herself due to her assumption that nobody can see or hear her without her wishing it so.

Note: I like MRW. It can stand for either masturbating or mystery river woman, and it's a lot easier than typing either of those out repeatedly. Thanks for coming up with it.
 
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To me, Belle's statement could be interpreted two ways. The first is, as you said, that Belle reading the Crone's mind is another story since the Crone is the one who summoned her. The second is that the Crone reading the minds of others is another story since she has the magic to do so.

I do believe the former to be the correct interpretation, and, as you so astutely pointed out, Belle seemingly being able to read the MRW's thoughts does indicate she's the Crone. It also may explain why, after talking to Thaddeus about Lilith, that Belle feels like she'd a version of the story before but isn't sure where. Belle may have learned the story originally by overhearing the Crone's thoughts.

It does bring another thing to mind, though. If the MRW is the Crone, as many of us have speculated, it's also highly likely that she can see and hear Belle fine, whether Belle wishes her to or not. If that is the case, it's highly likely that she is well aware of Dickon and Belle spying on her at the river since, while Belle admonishes Dickon to be quite, she's taking no measures to be quite herself due to her assumption that nobody can see or hear her without her wishing it so.

Note: I like MRW. It can stand for either masturbating or mystery river woman, and it's a lot easier than typing either of those out repeatedly. Thanks for coming up with it.
This is a forum for porn man, you kind of need to work on your summarizing.
 

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AND Belle said she could read the mind of the masturbating river woman (for lack of a better name)
This was a poorly worded bit of a dialogue by me. Reading it again, it comes off differently from how I imagined it when I wrote it. Belle is joking around. I've edited her line to remove any confusion about it, though there's still a small tease remaining.

I'm not saying whether or not the theories posted about this are right or wrong, but at least this particular line of dialogue wasn't intended to be a clue one way or the other.
 
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This is a forum for porn man, you kind of need to work on your summarizing.
I've always struggled with concision. :eek:penedeyewink:
This was a poorly worded bit of a dialogue by me. Reading it again, it comes off differently from how I imagined it when I wrote it. Belle is joking around. I've edited her line to remove any confusion about it, though there's still a small tease remaining.

I'm not saying whether or not the theories posted about this are right or wrong, but at least this particular line of dialogue wasn't intended to be a clue one way or the other.
Which brings up a third interpretation of your earlier statement. It's possible that Belle can't read the Crone's mind, despite her having summoned Belle. You truly are a master of the open to interpretation statement. As you said, we'll just have to wait and see which interpretation is the valid one. :perservingface:
 

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I thought it was pretty clear that Belle could read, at the very least, the surface thoughts of Primrose, and found them deeply perplexing. That's Part of what made Primrose (and Nell) intriguing to me.
Once you gained Belle's trust, admittedly, it would be over-the-top powerful to have a mind reading pixie reading peoples thoughts and feeding their deepest-darkest secrets to you, I just always accepted that as a "Game mechanics vs. plot" situation and went with it. We'll just have to see how it all pans out. Rest assured I'm on the edge of my seat over here.
 
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* Reads up*

Of course a lot of the theory interpretation hinges on whether we can trust what in-game Belle says in the first place...and I'm not sure she's a terribly reliable pixie.....
 

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This was a poorly worded bit of a dialogue by me. Reading it again, it comes off differently from how I imagined it when I wrote it. Belle is joking around. I've edited her line to remove any confusion about it, though there's still a small tease remaining.

I'm not saying whether or not the theories posted about this are right or wrong, but at least this particular line of dialogue wasn't intended to be a clue one way or the other.
Yeah I kinda got Belle was teasing the oblivious MC. It was obvious that the MRW was about to orgasm so the pixie was being her sarcastic self.
You said "Belle can read the mind of whoever is her master (or acting master) if she has been summoned through magic."
And the crone and Belle made it clear she was summoned and bound by magic. Nell even supported this when she explained the pixie being with the MC to Smamara when he was tied up in the dungeon. So then she could have a chance to read the crone's mind.
The river woman being the crone is speculation on my part, and you can never be sure if Belle is being completely sarcastic. Well you can Belle.
 
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