crabsinthekitchen

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Here's what I see a patch needs to do:
- replace the new file with the old evelyn.rpy
- check if there are entirely new lines of code in evelyn.rpy, add those and change them if they refer to their new realtionship.
- check for differences in the other files (like tutorial.rpy and progression_scripts.rpy) with a text editor that can compare files and change those back.

Or probably even easier:
- download original version of 0.32
- download the upcoming patreon-approved version of 0.32
- download the upcoming 0.33 with endgame part 3
- Compare the new 0.32 and 0.33 for new additions
- add those additions to the old 0.32 and change anything that warrants a change regarding Evelyn's and MC's relationship.
(This may be more tricky if 0.33 uses variables that don't exist in the original 0.32, but again it should be really easy to find the counterparts in Belle's code.)
0.33 and 0.34 should be easy to patch, endgame seems linear compared to the main part. I'm not so sure about New Game +
 

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Weeks? Belle said the change is going to be suprisingly small and will hopefully only take a few days:

It doubt it will take more than a day to create a patched version. The code is seperated by character, as in all of Evelyn stuff is in a file callled evelyn.rpy. In addition to that, Belle wrote out all variables and what they mean at the beginning of every script. It's like a beautiful homework assingment waiting to be turned in.

Here's what I see a patch needs to do:
- replace the new file with the old evelyn.rpy
- check if there are entirely new lines of code in evelyn.rpy, add those and change them if they refer to their new realtionship.
- check for differences in the other files (like tutorial.rpy and progression_scripts.rpy) with a text editor that can compare files and change those back.

Or probably even easier:
- download original version of 0.32
- download the upcoming patreon-approved version of 0.32
- download the upcoming 0.33 with endgame part 3
- Compare the new 0.32 and 0.33 for new additions
- add those additions to the old 0.32 and change anything that warrants a change regarding Evelyn's and MC's relationship.
(This may be more tricky if 0.33 uses variables that don't exist in the original 0.32, but again it should be really easy to find the counterparts in Belle's code.)
Don't edit the scripts, use string replacements. Every time it sees the new text, you serve the old text instead. By doing it that way, the patch is still compatible with newer versions, just without the added text.
 
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crabsinthekitchen

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Don't edit the scripts, use string replacements. Every time it sees the new text, you serve the old text instead. By doing it that way, the patch is still compatible with newer versions, just without the added text.
will it work if the changes aren't just replacing "sister" with something else? because your description gives me Vietnam flashbacks of unpatched games from early days of Patreon's war on incest. Neighbor living in a different neighborhood but somehow still being roommates with your landlady type of shit
 

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will it work if the changes aren't just replacing "sister" with something else? because your description gives me Vietnam flashbacks of unpatched games from early days of Patreon's war on incest. Neighbor living in a different neighborhood but somehow still being roommates with your landlady type of shit
Full string replacement. You can even feed multiple lines, or supercede blocks. The important part is that the changes are non-destructive.
 

crabsinthekitchen

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Full string replacement. You can even feed multiple lines, or supercede blocks. The important part is that the changes are non-destructive.
Something like label overrides that would show the old dialogue whenever the censored version is called looks like a good solution but that would only make sense if new dialogue is called in the same places as the old one. I have to see what changes Belle does before I can think of a good way to restore the removed content
 

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Well being watched it will be impossible for Belle to do it if she even would want to take the risk, which she answered with a nope for completely valid reasons from her pov. For an evil modder it will take at least a few weeks to make that patch from scratch as it is also taking Belle that long to rework it and she has to change a lot of code as shown in her last patreon post. So that will have to be an incredibly passionate modder that also will have to work out how Belle was planning to do last parts of game originally. So even if someone like that would come along, do not expect so for a few months.
Since Patreon monitors this forum as well as Discord, it's best to not even talk about such things, lest Patreon chooses to rejecct Belle's efforts to comply. Please don't undermine Belle's effort.
 

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Since Patreon monitors this forum as well as Discord, it's best to not even talk about such things, lest Patreon chooses to rejecct Belle's efforts to comply. Please don't undermine Belle's effort.
I find it ironic how extreme and violent murder and gore can be accepted so easily in media such as games and movies yet the second two consenting adults who might be related decide to get in a relationship virtue signalers just crawl out of nowhere and act like the worst act has been committed. I mean seriously which is worse? Extreme and violent murder or two possibly related CONSENTING ADULTS deciding they love each other?
 
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I find it ironic how extreme and violent murder and gore can be accepted so easily in media such as games and movies yet the second two consenting adults who might be related decide to get in a relationship virtue signalers just crawl out of nowhere and act like the worst act has been committed. I mean seriously which is worse? Extreme and violent murder or two possibly related CONSENTING ADULTS deciding they love each other?
I'd say complaining about this weird limit is perfectly valid. I've been pretty up front that I've moved over to SubscribeStar. I don't mind if Patreon is away of us not being happy.

What we have to avoid is discussing ways to circumvent Patron's rules. That would only give them an excuse to come down harder.
 

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I think that we should just change the topic, so that things said that Belle has no control over doesn't get Belle into trouble.

Topic suggestion: Which of the female characters do you think has the better ass.
 
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I'd say complaining about this weird limit is perfectly valid. I've been pretty up front that I've moved over to SubscribeStar. I don't mind if Patreon is away of us not being happy.

What we have to avoid is discussing ways to circumvent Patron's rules. That would only give them an excuse to come down harder.
The vast majority of Belles subscribers are on patreon, and might not move over to subscribestar.
That being the case, continuing the discussion about patches and such in Belles game thread could cost Belle money if they deny her new version of the game because of it.

It just seems to me that the right thing to do is drop that subject, rather than risk Belles hard work and income.
 
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Oh wow, I thought the next release felt like it was taking some time. I thought maybe there was some epic content coming, but it's just legalize legalese getting in the way :-( That sucks, but I'm glad you were able to work something out. PornHub should get into the VN hosting business! I'm sure they have the clout to tell the money people to go screw themselves. Just my uneducated opinion, feel free to tell me I'm an idiot in that regard :-D
 

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I think that we should just change the topic, so that things said that Belle has no control over doesn't get Belle into trouble.

Topic suggestion: Which of the female characters do you think has the better ass.
I am tempted to say Cassie. I don't know if she'd be like Helen of Troy and be "The Ass that Launched a Thousand Ships," but she definitely caused Dickon to say "I'd definitely ship that!" :cool:
 

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I am tempted to say Cassie. I don't know if she'd be like Helen of Troy and be "The Ass that Launched a Thousand Ships," but she definitely caused Dickon to say "I'd definitely ship that!" :cool:
Honestly my personal favourite was the faye queen. Man I hope she is going to be alright. I would definitely marry her.
 

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Topic suggestion: Which of the female characters do you think has the better ass.
blonde princess and closeby ex-fairy queen and belle and then tied sister and that warrior woman and closeby current fairy queen and that forest spirit and then clothesmaker also that maleficious creature had nice ass but too brief encounters to get higher on ranks and last is library girl.
 

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After Sleep in Evelyn Bed happen, does not Belle desire Oral from player anymore? Because her Demand for Service is one of the hottest Scenes I have yet played. I wish for this to continue...
 

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After Sleep in Evelyn Bed happen, does not Belle desire Oral from player anymore? Because her Demand for Service is one of the hottest Scenes I have yet played. I wish for this to continue...
Yeah if you can sleep with Evelyn there are no cunnilingus scenes with Belle anymore. I think that would be a little complicated with Evelyn in the same bed. I guess it might make sense to have these scenes if you sleep in your own bed while Evelyn is upset with you for fucking Primrose but I'm not surprised devBelle didn't think of it because that wouldn't happen often and usually would be only for one night until Remove Inhibitions kicks in
 

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Yeah if you can sleep with Evelyn there are no cunnilingus scenes with Belle anymore. I think that would be a little complicated with Evelyn in the same bed. I guess it might make sense to have these scenes if you sleep in your own bed while Evelyn is upset with you for fucking Primrose but I'm not surprised devBelle didn't think of it because that wouldn't happen often and usually would be only for one night until Remove Inhibitions kicks in
I would be surprised if I didn't think about it. In fact, I believe I did. Are you sure you can't get that scene at all while that is going on? I'm not going to dig through the code right now, but I seem to recall there being a way to gain that scene back after entering a relationship with Evelyn, though I may be mistaken.

In any case, that scene is indeed gone as long as you sleep in Evelyn's bed, and it wouldn't make sense to offer the ability to sleep in your own bed once you're in a relationship. Evelyn wouldn't understand.

That scene is always available in the gallery anyway, just like every other sex scene.
 
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if mc sleeps in his bed then belle the fairy will lick his dick and possibly afterwards if slept with evelyn when wokes up and evelyn is gone.
 

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I would be surprised if I didn't think about it. In fact, I believe I did. Are you sure you can't get that scene at all while that is going on? I'm not going to dig through the code right now, but I seem to recall there being a way to gain that scene back after entering a relationship with Evelyn, though I may be mistaken.

In any case, that scene is indeed gone as long as you sleep in Evelyn's bed, and it wouldn't make sense to offer the ability to sleep in your own bed once you're in a relationship. Evelyn wouldn't understand.

That scene is always available in the gallery anyway, just like every other sex scene.
Right now it's possible I somehow messed up the code with UnRen while trying to make a walkthrough mod and I need to start a new save on a clean version of a game to see what happens. From the code I only noticed that Evelyn doesn't give you payment from Thaddeus if she's upset with you and doesn't appear at the training grounds in the morning.

Oh and now I totally understand why you don't want to make a walkthrough yourself, there's so many differences you can notice if you do things in a slightly different order that there's really no best way to play it, Evelyn saying she might be ok with incest but she still wouldn't fuck Aldred doesn't normally happen the way I play but changing the order in which I solved her secrets was worth it
 
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