PandaSuky

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1st time evelyn gets fucked by envoy is rape and ntr since evelyn will be future li and if there's more on it then it's sharing if mc knows about it.
I hate ntr, but if she wasnt LI yet, since when is that NTR? rape i understand, but not NTR and probably you can avoid it.
 
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I hate ntr, but if she wasnt LI yet, since when is that NTR? rape i understand, but not NTR and probably you can avoid it.
if future li gets fucked by non-mc dude then it is ntr. whole ntr (netori and netorare) is stupid.
 
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PandaSuky

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if future li gets fucked by non-mc dude then it is ntr. whole ntr (netori and netorare) is stupid.
She was your LI in the moment? No.
Example:
For you a girl that lost her Virginity before knowing you is NTR, just because she is going to be your LI?
Is what you are telling me basically.
Trust me i hate NTR with all my soul, but if it is avoidable i play. But i dont see any NTR in this game, so far i see "Sharing".
 

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Any time that there is an NTR tag in a game, the hardcore anti NTR people throw a fit at the thought that it is there, even if it is 100% avoidable.
And the pro NTR people start to ask constantly, where that content is, and how much is planned.

Because the anti NTR people:
Hate the idea that the dev has spent time creating that NTR (even when it is avoidable) content for other people, when the dev could have been making more content that "THEY" like.
These games are after all, created for "their" enjoyment.
Screw everyone else!
They also seem to throw a fit and insist that sharing content is NTR, when by definition, it is not.

The pro NTR people, are mainly interested in that content, so they want to know where it is, and how to get it.
But some even scream when there is no NTR content or a tag for it, and they insist that the game would be better with it.
Even after the dev has said repeatedly that they will not be adding any NTR content to a game..

My thoughts on NTR is that I am not a fan, but if it is avoidable, there is nothing to complain about...
 
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xapican

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NTR fans start showing up to ask specifics about the NTR content that's allegedly in the game
And if not then Non NTR fans will show up and ask if it is avoidable and then say "you lied it is not avoidable you only don´t see it " but it is there and I have to desinfect my whole computer because of you saying it is avoidable :ROFLMAO:
 
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PandaSuky

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Any time that there is an NTR tag in a game, the hardcore anti NTR people throw a fit at the thought that it is there, even if it is 100% avoidable.
And the pro NTR people start to ask constantly, where that content is, and how much is planned.

Because the anti NTR people:
Hate the idea that the dev has spent time creating that NTR (even when it is avoidable) content for other people, when the dev could have been making more content that "THEY" like.
These games are after all, created for "their" enjoyment.
Screw everyone else!

The pro NTR people, are mainly interested in that content, so they want to know where it is, and how to get it.
But some even scream when there is no NTR content or a tag for it, and they insist that the game would be better with it.
Even after the dev has said repeatedly that they will not be adding any NTR content to a game..

My thoughts on NTR is that I am not a fan, but if it is avoidable, there is nothing to complain about...
100 % agree
 
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She was your LI in the moment? No.
Example:
For you a girl that lost her Virginity before knowing you is NTR, just because she is going to be your LI?
Is what you are telling me basically.
Trust me i hate NTR with all my soul, but if it is avoidable i play. But i dont see any NTR in this game, so far i see "Sharing".
no but since mc witnessed it it is ntr. if he'd elsewhere then no.
 

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no but since mc witnessed it it is ntr. if he'd elsewhere then no.
Shouldn't it be the opposite? Since he was there and let it happen, it's sharing? Because often NTR plots make a point of having it happen behind the cuckold's back (and only have him realize what's happening towards the end).
 

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Shouldn't it be the opposite? Since he was there and let it happen, it's sharing? Because often NTR plots make a point of having it happen behind the cuckold's back (and only have him realize what's happening towards the end).
at that point there was no point to share.
 

xapican

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Since he was there and let it happen, it's sharing?
for me is it not, sorry also it is not "NTR" by any definiton (exept in the Suscribestar scenario) for me is it Pimping, (of course there are many greyscales inbetween,) Basicly you decide not to act on "the abuse" because she can give you money each friday, forcing your so called "LI" to have paid sex, and to Stash away money that is originaly for the Comunity.
the points brought up in the posts before are also valid at that time but you don´t know how your sister or cousin feels about it only that she is denying her self her true feelings towards you.
 
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DenBover

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Well this is tangentially related: does Evelyn need to have got it on with Thaddeus in order to have sex with her while she's asleep (and not in a relationship with MC)? Am currently attempting a real dickhead playthrough where he knocks as many of the girls up as possible without them knowing. On that note, is there any way to bypass Nell's deep sleep resistance?
 

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This is not a thread about NTR. People have been warned by mods for such discussions before.
well it can't be helped, some see evelyn case as ntr and some don't and neither side is correct or wrong.

i didn't even know that mc can pimp his sister.
 

AnondAndOn

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I'm only a few in-game days and a single small secret into the game, but can anyone tell me what the "evelyn patch" (filename: scripts_patreon_0.42.0) is supposed to do? I've done some googling and know the game underwent some drastic changes due to patreon and that there's a mod by Boxedjack somewhere in the this thread, but I don't wanna mess too much with stuff I don't know how will affect the O.42v found here on F95.

EDIT: I think this is my 5th or something offense of figuring something out immediately after asking about it... Ignore me. I'm used to seeing the incest tag and believing I want to actually download any patches provided.
 
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glaurung

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Well this is tangentially related: does Evelyn need to have got it on with Thaddeus in order to have sex with her while she's asleep (and not in a relationship with MC)? Am currently attempting a real dickhead playthrough where he knocks as many of the girls up as possible without them knowing. On that note, is there any way to bypass Nell's deep sleep resistance?
1. If you read the Evelyn-Thaddeus dialogue, you'll notice that she is not letting him have PIV sex with her, so no, letting their relationship advance does not enable the MC to do PIV to her while she's asleep.

2. No, there is no way to remove Nell's magic resistance.
 

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2. No, there is no way to remove Nell's magic resistance.
and absolutely no need to since can bang her daily or twice a day and even after she becomes fq.

Belle i think i figured how that oddity i reported happened, twice romp with nell in same day.
 

Barney_aut

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Hi Guys,

First of all a great game Belle (and Developers).

I´ve got a question about Primrose.. i nearly played the Game to its Endgame (no ToDos open)... but the sad part is I never could go any farther with Primrose than kissing or watching her cleaning naked.
I did save her from prison and got everything in the storylane with Merek (at least out of her Mind). I don´t have any options left in the library..
when im working after my nap she comes really shy to me after i tell her i want a kiss. When she is in the Reading Room im only able to read a book or talk with her, nothing happens. With the remove Inhibitions Spell i can only get a Kiss or "get a big smile".

Where did I fucked up? or did i still miss something?

PS: i didnt play with the walkthrough... i just try to enjoy it on my own (and now missing Primrose :( )
 

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Hi Guys,

First of all a great game Belle (and Developers).

I´ve got a question about Primrose.. i nearly played the Game to its Endgame (no ToDos open)... but the sad part is I never could go any farther with Primrose than kissing or watching her cleaning naked.
I did save her from prison and got everything in the storylane with Merek (at least out of her Mind). I don´t have any options left in the library..
when im working after my nap she comes really shy to me after i tell her i want a kiss. When she is in the Reading Room im only able to read a book or talk with her, nothing happens. With the remove Inhibitions Spell i can only get a Kiss or "get a big smile".

Where did I fucked up? or did i still miss something?

PS: i didnt play with the walkthrough... i just try to enjoy it on my own (and now missing Primrose :( )
If she was ever in jail, you're locked out of getting into any of her romance paths. You need to make sure she's never arrested, to begin with.
 

glaurung

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I´ve got a question about Primrose.. i nearly played the Game to its Endgame (no ToDos open)... but the sad part is I never could go any farther with Primrose than kissing or watching her cleaning naked.
Primrose's relationship paths are time sensitive. She's the only character in the game where you have a deadline on developing the relationship.

In addition to having to prevent her from getting arrested, you also have to have improved her opinion of you sufficiently before clearing her of suspicion for the murder. If she doesn't think well enough of you at the time that you clear her name, she will give you money instead of a sexual reward, and AFAIK, you get no chance to further develop your relationship after saving her from jail.
 
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