Thermophob

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Huh. I assumed it was all incest-porn, not just when directly involving the MC. Seems like a pretty big loophole (and pointless distinction).
Incest between the princesses is still incest in eyes of Patreon. It was not removed for two reasons.
First, complete story of their incestuous relationship in past, and resumption of it, was not implemented in game back in time when developer was forced to remove incest from the game. Second, Patreon wont react on it's own initiative. They usually react when somebody complains.
 
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xapican

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The spell is called "Dispel Magic," and while I don't remember exactly how you get it, according to past posts in the thread you learn it from the Leanan Sídhe. (Get her invitation by returning to the Fey Court, visit her twice, then wait a number of days until you're drawn back there.)

Is it the spell the Crone casts to free you from Lea's magic?
Dispel Magic iirc you learn in the Writingroom or from a Book what you find
 

lancecomwar

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... Ok, I give up lol

How do I save Primrose? Or rather, how do I get the proof that she isn't guilty? I've tried googling, searching this topic, breaking into the interrogator's mind, but no such luck... Anyone care to help? All I can find are out of date walkthroughs, when I don't really want to use a full walkthrough.
 
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xapican

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... Ok, I give up lol

How do I save Primrose? Or rather, how do I get the proof that she isn't guilty? I've tried googling, searching this topic, breaking into the interrogator's mind, but no such luck... Anyone care to help? All I can find are out of date walkthroughs, when I don't really want to use a full walkthrough.
you have to ,search for clues, talk to primerose, go to sammara talk (ask) her direcly about the evidence reveal some clues she (samarra) will tell you the evidence she got, (you must be able to reveal large and dark secrets with Invade Mind) cast Invade mind on both Samarra and Primerose, after you have all together present samarra your evidece again
glaurung has a updated Guide you may want to look at.:
 
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BobRayn

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... Ok, I give up lol

How do I save Primrose? Or rather, how do I get the proof that she isn't guilty? I've tried googling, searching this topic, breaking into the interrogator's mind, but no such luck... Anyone care to help? All I can find are out of date walkthroughs, when I don't really want to use a full walkthrough.
Investigate the library’s financial situation
(Clue – Merek would have ended up bankrupting the library…)
Investigate the library’s doors and windows
(Clue – The library doors and windows show no signs of having been forced open.)
Investigate the list of borrowed books
(Clue – Primrose borrowed a book about poisons…)

Talk to Primrose
Ask how the killer got in without breaking any doors…
(Clue – The killer had a key, or someone…)

Talk to Samarra
Present the clues
(Merek would have ended up bankrupting the library…)
(Primrose borrowed a book about poisons…)
(The killer had a key…)
Get
(Clue – Merek’s tea was poisoned…)

Visit Primrose and Invade Mind
Guilty Primrose (Primrose’s Large Secret)
(Merek would have ended up bankrupting the library…)
(Primrose borrowed a book about poisons…)
(The killer had a key…)
(Merek’s tea was poisoned. He must have smelled it…)
Remove Inhibitions

Primrose will show you the Writing Room
(Clue – Primrose gave an old woman access to the library…)

Investigate the Alley behind library
(Clue – You found chameleon scales outside the library)

Visit the Crone,
Ask the Crone about Chameleon Scales
(Clue – Chameleon scales can be used for illusions…)

Finally return to Samarra
Invade Mind
The Killer (Large Secret)
(Primrose gave an old woman access to the library…)
(You found chameleon scales outside the library.)
(Chameleon scales can be used for illusions…)
To shapeshift
An old woman
 
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glaurung

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... Ok, I give up lol

How do I save Primrose? Or rather, how do I get the proof that she isn't guilty? I've tried googling, searching this topic, breaking into the interrogator's mind, but no such luck... Anyone care to help? All I can find are out of date walkthroughs, when I don't really want to use a full walkthrough.

You have to reveal Primrose's large secret, then use that info to reveal Samarra's large secret.

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There is no point in cheating. Most of the choices during the tutorial are not implemented and are there merely to indicate intent. Some scenes are implemented outside of the tutorial, but I have held back renders for things that are not possible to accomplish in the current version.
I respectfully disagree. Been trying to get to 1st base with Nell for like 2 weeks now. It's day 47, and she still won't let me kiss her. I brought her the romance novel. I've revealed all her secrets and done advanced training with her. If I've missed something, I've no idea what. And if I haven't missed anything, like I think, then I need to cheat...
 

xapican

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I respectfully disagree. Been trying to get to 1st base with Nell for like 2 weeks now. It's day 47, and she still won't let me kiss her. I brought her the romance novel. I've revealed all her secrets and done advanced training with her. If I've missed something, I've no idea what. And if I haven't missed anything, like I think, then I need to cheat...
Well maybe she wanted a porno novel ?
Edit:Sammara is the Key be in good terms with her if in doubt look 2 posts above yours there is the link for a guide
 
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BobRayn

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Not to nag, but I wonder if this question got lost among other discussion:
"Made Evelyn leave town."
Basically build up a relationship with her, interrupt her and Thaddeus, give her at least one massage and 2 lunches (I think those numbers are right), and then confess your feelings to her before you remove her inhibitions with her dark secret. There will be scene at home that night and she will be gone the next morning.
 

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I respectfully disagree. Been trying to get to 1st base with Nell for like 2 weeks now. It's day 47, and she still won't let me kiss her. I brought her the romance novel. I've revealed all her secrets and done advanced training with her. If I've missed something, I've no idea what. And if I haven't missed anything, like I think, then I need to cheat...
I have wooed Nell many times. It should not be that difficult. usually I just need to spend 2 or at most 3 afternoons with her at the stables, and then kissing her in the belltower gets me the option to become her boyfriend.

Is your charisma still at 1? Were you dishonest with Samarra during your interrogation on the morning of day 8?
I am always honest and I always upgrade my charisma to 2 before trying to seduce anyone.

If you're still getting nowhere with a charisma of 2 and spending multiple afternoons with her at the stables, something has gone wrong.
 

BobRayn

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I respectfully disagree. Been trying to get to 1st base with Nell for like 2 weeks now. It's day 47, and she still won't let me kiss her. I brought her the romance novel. I've revealed all her secrets and done advanced training with her. If I've missed something, I've no idea what. And if I haven't missed anything, like I think, then I need to cheat...
Agree with Glaurung. Nell is usually pretty easy to start a relationship with. You don't need to do the advanced training for it to progress.

Same questions as he had. What is your charisma stat? Have you solved her small secret yet? Were you honest during the interrogation (like the fairy queen, she is a truthsayer).

Usually it is spend time with her about 3x, on the second time bring her a book - the book used to matter (Romance) but I haven't tested 1.0 enough to know if that still holds true.
 

glaurung

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Agree with Glaurung. Nell is usually pretty easy to start a relationship with. You don't need to do the advanced training for it to progress.

Same questions as he had. What is your charisma stat? Have you solved her small secret yet? Were you honest during the interrogation (like the fairy queen, she is a truthsayer).

Usually it is spend time with her about 3x, on the second time bring her a book - the book used to matter (Romance) but I haven't tested 1.0 enough to know if that still holds true.
It used to be spend 3 afternoons with her if you bring her a non-romance, or 2 if you bring her a romance.
I think now it's spend 2 afternoons with her regardless of what book you bring (but I haven't tested thoroughly).

One other wrinkle: you don't get the option to kiss her on your first visit to the belltower (when you're there to train and she's teaching you).
The option appears (if you've spent enough time with her) only for later visits, when you're up there just for fun.
 

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I respectfully disagree. Been trying to get to 1st base with Nell for like 2 weeks now. It's day 47, and she still won't let me kiss her. I brought her the romance novel. I've revealed all her secrets and done advanced training with her. If I've missed something, I've no idea what. And if I haven't missed anything, like I think, then I need to cheat...
It's kinda simple, you need a minimum of "nell_opinion_romance >= 3"

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Primrose is a bit of a special case, as she has the most complex logic determining the MC's relationship with her. Nearly every interaction with her matters (even from the beginning), and she has modifiers that can make a romance/fwb relationship more or less likely based on how pushy or perverted you've been with her.

You can follow the guide if you're aiming for a specific result, but two players making choices that deviate only slightly from each other could wind up with two vastly different outcomes.

For example, I can tell you that her minimum for wanting a romantic relationship with the MC is 8 love points (5 in NG+), but you can't even start earning "love" points until you earn "like" points, and even that variable has its own set of levels and cutoffs.
 
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BobRayn

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... two players making choices that deviate only slightly from each other could wind up with two vastly different outcomes...
That is what I have noticed in just playing the first 25 days on a New Game a few times as well. Most of the time I can get her into the relationship status that I want for her - FWB is far easier than girlfriend, but a few interactions to either side tilt things away from the latter. I did push things to the worst to see if I could just get the "Primrose only gives you money" result on one try.

I haven't looked at the most recent guide, just my experiences from a few runs back in .3, .4, and now in 1.0.
 
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Keep in mind that Primrose's relationship stats received a serious overhaul in version 1.0.0. Her love stat used to be extremely back-loaded, meaning that you could spend plenty of time with her and still barely make a dent with that stat. In 1.0.0, you start earning love points much sooner. To truly succeed with her is still closely tied to (but not entirely reliant on) reading The Mage of Kathmorin, and that book should now also be available sooner, depending on your choices. As long as you pay attention to the tips the game gives you after interactions with Primrose, you'll find that just talking to her a few times after talking about that book will push you over the edge.
 
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