Tromilka

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Congrats on finishing the game, Belle! I really loved it. The level of quality and polish is super impressive, the writing is excellent and the gameplay really compelling.

There was one thing that bothered me a bit. Yeah, I know, it's hypocritical to make moral objections to other details in a game where you play as a serial rapist, but I thought the racial stuff (The Fomorians, portrayed here as Black, being a cursed race or nation, roleplaying master/slave with Samarra, Nell's Korean-looking features being because her mother was not human) was… iffy. I see that this was discussed before, and I'm glad to see that you denounce racism (glad but not surprised, since—these tropes aside—you write Nell and Samarra as sensitively and respectfully as any of the other characters), but I can't say I find your response wholly persuasive: Yeah, the game is set in a fantasy world, but it's made and played by people in our world, and the meanings and interpretations of details like this are going to resonate with reality.

I have no wish to get into a protracted argument, so maybe just take it as another person noting it as a concern.
 

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I'm curious: So if the Patreon version is incest-free, are Lilith and Selena not sisters there? What's the excuse given for MC and Evelyn sharing a room? And what about Evelyn's Dark Secret?

Also, does anyone happen to know what the "That's not supposed to happen, is it?" Secret Achievement is and how to get it?
 
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I'm curious: So if the Patreon version is incest-free, are Lilith and Selena not sisters there? What's the excuse given for MC and Evelyn sharing a room? And what about Evelyn's Dark Secret?

Also, does anyone happen to know what the "That's not supposed to happen, is it?" Secret Achievement is and how to get it?
well lilith and serena can be sisters since patreon's no incest applies to mc and his or her family. evelyn is just roomie on fucked up version (as some name patreon versions) and dark secret is just her parents not mc's.
 

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It is possible. I got that combination during my own testing. One of the changes I made in 1.0.0 was specifically to enable this result.

How do you get that ending, I've tried multiple times, however it keeps breaking nell's heart however I do it.

Also, Is there a way to extract the BGMs for this game? the choice of music is ridiculously amazing for a H game, something which I plan to keep i my playlist. especially the lilith and evelyn ones.


Lastly, Thank you so much for creating this masterpiece, It has to be the best if not one of the best games I've played. I started for the fap but stayed for the story.

it is a solid 9.5/10 ... more power to you
thanks
 
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Tromilka

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the choice of music is ridiculously amazing for a H game, something which I plan to keep i my playlist. especially the lilith and evelyn ones.
Yeah, I agree. The music selections are really great. And that choir bit that plays at solemn moments (like the Seamus Heaney quote at the very start) borrows the brilliant synth riff from "Blade Runner End Titles" by Vangelis. (y)

well lilith and serena can be sisters since patreon's no incest applies to mc and his or her family.
Huh. I assumed it was all incest-porn, not just when directly involving the MC. Seems like a pretty big loophole (and pointless distinction).

evelyn is just roomie on fucked up version (as some name patreon versions) and dark secret is just her parents not mc's.
So on Patreon, to overcome Evelyn's deep-seated taboo against sleeping with her roommate, you have to convince her that incest has an upside? Makes sense. :ROFLMAO: Glad we get the unfucked version.

(I suspect that in actuality, Belle has rewritten Evelyn's motivation so it makes more sense than that in the Patreon version.)
 
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Huh. I assumed it was all incest-porn, not just when directly involving the MC. Seems like a pretty big loophole (and pointless distinction).

So on Patreon, to overcome Evelyn's deep-seated taboo against sleeping with her roommate, you have to convince her that incest has an upside? Makes sense. :ROFLMAO: Glad we get the unfucked version.
not sure what patreon's exact terms are (don't give a crap).
 

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Yeah, I agree. The music selections are really great. And that choir bit that plays at solemn moments (like the Seamus Heaney quote at the very start) borrows the brilliant synth riff from "Blade Runner End Titles" by Vangelis. (y)



Huh. I assumed it was all incest-porn, not just when directly involving the MC. Seems like a pretty big loophole (and pointless distinction).



So on Patreon, to overcome Evelyn's deep-seated taboo against sleeping with her roommate, you have to convince her that incest has an upside? Makes sense. :ROFLMAO: Glad we get the unfucked version.

(I suspect that in actuality, Belle has rewritten Evelyn's motivation so it makes more sense than that in the Patreon version.)

Incest is what made this game more interesting if you ask me. it is something that can be done in games like these and m Glad that Belle is not sorry to use it.

The execution made it all great so who gives a crap about not liking it. I mean its completely avoidable if you want it.


The best ending I found so far would be the overlord ending. its the only harem ending this game has anyways.
 

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I'm curious: So if the Patreon version is incest-free, are Lilith and Selena not sisters there? What's the excuse given for MC and Evelyn sharing a room? And what about Evelyn's Dark Secret?

Also, does anyone happen to know what the "That's not supposed to happen, is it?" Secret Achievement is and how to get it?
well lilith and serena can be sisters since patreon's no incest applies to mc and his or her family. evelyn is just roomie on fucked up version (as some name patreon versions) and dark secret is just her parents not mc's.
cxx is incorrect.

Belle completely rewrote the backstory surrounding Evelyn for the Patreon version. MC and Evelyn are lifelong friends and roommates. Evelyn is trying to marry up and is engaged to a member of the nobility.
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It all makes sense (mostly), and yet revealing the secret and removing Evelyn's inhibition so that you can woo her involves the same puzzle and sequence of steps as in the Subscribestar version of the game. I have massive respect for Belle's writing chops in terms of how the story has been changed to avoid Patreon's prohibitions while still making things make sense.
 

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How do you get that ending, I've tried multiple times, however it keeps breaking nell's heart however I do it.
Don't force nell to visit the fairy queen through threats (the game hints at another way). Choose nell in the end.
 

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HOW do you remove the contraceptive... I don't think I've seen anyone actually SAY how to remove it from searching all 969 pages of this thread...

Does it just HAPPEN in the story...? The txt walkthrough has a section that says "removing the contraceptive" but says nothing on how TO remove it :unsure:
 

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The spell is called "Dispel Magic," and while I don't remember exactly how you get it, according to past posts in the thread you learn it from the Leanan Sídhe. (Get her invitation by returning to the Fey Court, visit her twice, then wait a number of days until you're drawn back there.)

Is it the spell the Crone casts to free you from Lea's magic?
 
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The spell is called "Dispel Magic," and while I don't remember exactly how you get it, according to past posts in the thread you learn it from the Leanan Sídhe. (Get her invitation by returning to the Fey Court, visit her twice, then wait a number of days until you're drawn back there.)

Is it the spell the Crone casts to free you from Lea's magic?
No you just get it after the second visit. Because if I remember right you felt some surge of magic or something like that. :)
 

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No you just get it after the second visit. Because if I remember right you felt some surge of magic or something like that. :)
The spell is called "Dispel Magic," and while I don't remember exactly how you get it, according to past posts in the thread you learn it from the Leanan Sídhe. (Get her invitation by returning to the Fey Court, visit her twice, then wait a number of days until you're drawn back there.)

Is it the spell the Crone casts to free you from Lea's magic?
Thanks Tromilka, It is through Leanan Sidhe... it's on the first visit (at least for me it was), you Fuck her and upon which finishing will give you the message that you've learned "Dispel Magic."

For all those using the search function to remove contraceptive, the answer is here... get all them girls pregnant ;)
 
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Are there any plans on maximazing the fps of the animations? I know the animations are ajusted already, because i can clearly see the difference between the current version and the 0.42 version i played back in the days. Im just curious, if full fps are possible or intended.
 

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Are there any plans on maximazing the fps of the animations? I know the animations are ajusted already, because i can clearly see the difference between the current version and the 0.42 version i played back in the days. Im just curious, if full fps are possible or intended.
Never mind they are miximazed already, please ignore my comment. Thank you!!
 

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good game, outdated models and sex scenes but great story. my only wish was that the evil ending was a bit more branched out but it was great nonetheless.
 
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So I played an older version to completion and am now picking up the 1.0 version again, and I cannot figure out how to break Evelyns last secret / get her into incest. I'm on a NG+ after getting a bad ending the first time and have figured out most things, but this still eludes me. Not sure if I want to look up the answer and take away the fun of solving it, but maybe a small hint would help.
 
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