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Callie does not like getting pregnant no matter what.
You mean in the threesome path? Because in the solo path it's perfectly possible. "The pregnancy came as a surprise to Callie, though it didn't take long for her to welcome it. This was her love child with me, and she would treasure it always."
 

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You mean in the threesome path? Because in the solo path it's perfectly possible. "The pregnancy came as a surprise to Callie, though it didn't take long for her to welcome it. This was her love child with me, and she would treasure it always."
Huh, I missed that. If you're not in a relationship with her, she is always mad at the MC for knocking her up. In the threesome path, I'm pretty sure she never likes it either, but I could be wrong.
 
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You just have to get them to a point where they're willing to date you. And TBF, the crone pretty much explicitly tells you "go for harem or die" at the beginning of the game, when she explains that you'll be facing a great evil, that failure will be disastrous, that you'll need all your faculties and to practice your mind control skills as much as possible, and that she doesn't care if you use it to sleep with girls as long as it helps you towards that greater goal.

glaurung, there's one more condition you're missing:

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Drat, someone else said the probe memory thing wasn't actually needed and I took them at their word. Will make sure that bit goes back into the guide.
 

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Drat, someone else said the probe memory thing wasn't actually needed and I took them at their word. Will make sure that bit goes back into the guide.
I am pretty sure you need to get the innocent princess scene for the good ending :) therefore you need the probe memory
 
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even get the Lilith scene where the last Charisma point becomes relevant.
But I don't want to get that scene. It's really stupid that u can't clear the game withoit fucking crone.

and the 80+ coins is a very obvious sign that you did not manage your time right, since you have been working way to much.
I didn't work at all. U get 50 coins from Primrose and then 25 coins every week from Evelyn, while u have nothing to spend them on.

19 coins total, more than enough to get the 2nd magical training.
I obviously spent all those coins on that pixie costumes, since I was preparing for day 50, game said nothing about day 24 deadline. So when they gave me that deadline I had 0, and it was impossible to do everything that needs to be done AND farm 15 coins in 1 week. But if u let Primrose in jail even just for 1 day u can't clear the game anymore.
 

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You can get charisma points from everyone except Callie without having sex with them.
Well, Samarra will have sex with you regardless (after your first agility training, which is required to complete all quests and win), without any mind control. But otherwise, since you only need four of the five, you can win without manipulating any of them into sex.

Actually, I wonder what the minimum number of sex partners to win the game is…
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Drat, someone else said the probe memory thing wasn't actually needed and I took them at their word. Will make sure that bit goes back into the guide.
I don't think you need to cast Probe Memory and watch the flashback, but you do need to cast Invade Mind and reveal her secret (to reveal the Crone as Lilith, otherwise the sex scene with her is not an option; in that case you'll of course fail to break into Selena's mind during the endgame and get killed).
 

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But if u let Primrose in jail even just for 1 day u can't clear the game anymore.
As has been pointed out repeatedly, you only need charisma from 4 of the 5 girls, so you can win even if you fail to keep Primrose out of jail.

But I don't want to get that scene. It's really stupid that u can't clear the game withoit fucking crone.
Now you're just whining.
 

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As has been pointed out repeatedly, you only need charisma from 4 of the 5 girls, so you can win even if you fail to keep Primrose out of jail.
Just checked it - nope, u need maxed charisma for crone. If u don't fuck crone u get bad end no matter what.
 

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It's super ez to get her out of the jail once u get the second training, it doesn't even cost an action iirc. But this way u will never get charisma point from her or any relationship no matter what.
 

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Just checked it - nope, u need maxed charisma for crone. If u don't fuck crone u get bad end no matter what.
You can max out charisma without Primrose. You start with one point, get one point from reading the "not-James-Bond" book, and then can get points from Callie, Evelyn, Samarra and Nell, for a total of 6.

Are you sure about that, because I am pretty sure you can't win without
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Ah, that's possible. I haven't tried out all the conditions for her casting the spell. I rather assumed that as long as you've uncovered her dark secret, Merek's instructions would be sufficient argument to persuade her.
 

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You can max out charisma without Primrose. You start with one point, get one point from reading the "not-James-Bond" book, and then can get points from Callie, Evelyn, Samarra and Nell, for a total of 6.



Ah, that's possible. I haven't tried out all the conditions for her casting the spell. I rather assumed that as long as you've uncovered her dark secret, Merek's instructions would be sufficient argument to persuade her.
Well I haven't either, if you didn't catch my earlier posts, I have never not been in relationship with basicly everyone on every PT, and am ATM trying to see if it's possible in NG to get all paths open, well except the two mutually exclusive :D
 

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But I don't want to get that scene. It's really stupid that u can't clear the game withoit fucking crone.


I didn't work at all. U get 50 coins from Primrose and then 25 coins every week from Evelyn, while u have nothing to spend them on.


I obviously spent all those coins on that pixie costumes, since I was preparing for day 50, game said nothing about day 24 deadline. So when they gave me that deadline I had 0, and it was impossible to do everything that needs to be done AND farm 15 coins in 1 week. But if u let Primrose in jail even just for 1 day u can't clear the game anymore.
1. Have you revealed the crone's dark secret? Because if you have, you'd know that she isn't actually a crone.

2. You only get money from primrose if you haven't done much of anything to make her like you. You only get more than 5 coin a week from Evelyn if you've been spying on her and Thaddeus without interfereing. Getting money from Primrose means you're locked out of getting any charisma bonus from her, and prevented from ever seeing 90% of her sex scenes. The more money the game gives you, the more it's a signal that you've screwed up badly (primrose) and/or are paying attention to the wrong things (evelyn/thaddeus).

3. Now I understand. you didn't upgrade your skills in the early game and ran out of time and money when you needed to get the second training session so you could deal with large secrets before the 7 day deadline for clearing Primrose. I guess you didn't pay enough attention to the ways that the game tells you what to prioritize, which is training up your skills and revealing secrets.

Holding down the control key lets you fast forward through already seen dialogue... which makes it much less time consuming to start over and change your approach. I recommend you do that. I had to restart several times when I first started playing LLtP myself, before I figured out what to do and what not to do.
 

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And how long do I have to wait for that? I have only 2 days, but nothing happens.
I don't quite remember what the trigger are for her picnic date to show. But to answer your previous question about ability points is not obtainable in time, I have just reached max stats at day 35 in the morning in the "first" playthrough, not the New game +
 

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1. Have you revealed the crone's dark secret? Because if you have, you'd know that she isn't actually a crone.
Ofc I did, I finished all quests. I just don't like her and she always will be crone to me.

2. You only get money from primrose if you haven't done much of anything to make her like you.
The game says she loves me, but since she was in jail for 1 day I get this instead no matter what.

I guess you didn't pay enough attention to the ways that the game tells you what to prioritize, which is training up your skills and revealing secrets.
I did train skills, but I went for courage and agility iirc first. I also got all clues, but couldn't use them bc no training. I just didn't expect the second deadline, it says 50 days in the beginning, but in reality it's only 24.
 

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I did train skills, but I went for courage and agility iirc first. I also got all clues, but couldn't use them bc no training. I just didn't expect the second deadline, it says 50 days in the beginning, but in reality it's only 24.
The deadline is 50 days, the only thing that has a deadline on day 24 is Primrose's investigation
 
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