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I break Selena's curse, and the demon then just kills me... Evelyn is hanged.
Yeah, that's the same for me. Looks like u have to brainwash and fuck literally every girl to avoid this. Basically go for harem or die.
Btw u get charisma when u brainwash them too (remove inhibitions). For example u need to make Evelyn to love incest to get 1 point. This clown game...


Only when you've maxed out pathfinding should you switch to hunting for raising money.
Why would I do hunting when I max pathfinding? I finished the game with like 80+ extra coins that I don't even need. The main problem is the beginning of the game where u have to find clues, lvlup relationships AND somehow get money for the lessons. And nope, u can't work for Callie bc she is busy. Ur options are library or hunting only. And the dev specifically made that hunts will give u only 7 coins, so u can't get 15 in 2 days, making u to miss the deadline by 1 day.
 

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Why would I do hunting when I max pathfinding? I finished the game with like 80+ extra coins that I don't even need. The main problem is the beginning of the game where u have to find clues, lvlup relationships AND somehow get money for the lessons. And nope, u can't work for Callie bc she is busy. Ur options are library or hunting only. And the dev specifically made that hunts will give u only 7 coins, so u can't get 15 in 2 days, making u to miss the deadline by 1 day.
Callie is only busy one or two days of the week, the rest of the time, you can work for her. Just like Samarra is not available to train with a few days a week, but is in the training grounds every other morning.

On friday of week 1, you always have 10 coins (aldred plus evelyn) plus whatever you made from working that week - and you need to work 3x in the library, regardless, to find all the interesting books and all the clues to Primrose's small secret. 19 coins total, more than enough to get the 2nd magical training. By the time you qualify for the final magical training, you'll have been able to level up pathfinding to the point where you get 20 coins per boar. And then one or two boar gets you over the top for that.
 

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OK WTF... 3 playthroughs, 3 times bad ending. Is the last point of Charisma that important for a good ending ?? If so, I can't , for the love of god, figure out which girl is not giving me the charisma point.
I break Selena's curse, and the demon then just kills me... Evelyn is hanged.

This game is now turning into a personal challenge for me.
You can gain a point of charisma from each of the 5 women in town (Nell, Samarra, Callie, Evelyn, Primrose).
Nell, Primrose, Callie: you get the point when you get the choice to become their boyfriend (regardless of whether you say yes or no)
Evelyn: you get the point when you remove the inhibition that makes it impossible to confess your feelings for her without her leaving town.
Samarra: you get the point when you talk to her in her tent, after winning a fight with her in the training grounds (not just landing a blow, but winning the battle). You get the point regardless of whether you have sex with her or not. (charisma aside, you cannot win the game if you don't win that battle)

Since there's also a charisma raising book, you only need to successfully get points from 4 out of the 5.

AFAIK, winning the game requires maxing out charisma, courage, and (to win the fight with Samarra) agility.
If you're getting to the point of having sex with Selena, then you're almost all the way there.

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Is it possible to have an Evelyn/Callie threesome ending where they're both impregnated and happy about it? I couldn't find any way to get Callie to accept it in the threesome path. (I avoided the picnic invitation because I take it that locks me into a solo relationship with Callie.)

Also, if you impregnate Callie when she's not ready, the ending will say that both Evelyn and Callie were knocked up against their will, even though Evelyn was very willing.
Callie does not like getting pregnant no matter what.
 

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I couldn't get all this in time, since u need 15 coins for training, but hunting gives u only 7, so 2 days is only 14. Also u can't work in the shop bc she is busy those days, so the only way is hunts, meaning u can't use afternoon for anything else.

As for endgame choices I did everything right, except I didn't seduce the crone princes. U really need to fuck her to avoid everyone dying? This is stupid.
It is quite possible to do, but yeah you have to actually manage your time and do stuff in the right order.

Yeah, that's the same for me. Looks like u have to brainwash and fuck literally every girl to avoid this. Basically go for harem or die.
Btw u get charisma when u brainwash them too (remove inhibitions). For example u need to make Evelyn to love incest to get 1 point. This clown game...

Why would I do hunting when I max pathfinding? I finished the game with like 80+ extra coins that I don't even need.
No you don't need to fuck every girl to get the good ending, and the 80+ coins is a very obvious sign that you did not manage your time right, since you have been working way to much.
 

glaurung

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Yeah, that's the same for me. Looks like u have to brainwash and fuck literally every girl to avoid this. Basically go for harem or die.
Btw u get charisma when u brainwash them too (remove inhibitions). For example u need to make Evelyn to love incest to get 1 point. This clown game...
You can get charisma points from everyone except Callie without having sex with them. Evelyn and Samarra - points gained outside of any relationship context. Callie, Primrose, and nell: you get the point when you get the choice to become their boyfriend, regardless of whether or not you do so. Kiss nell in the bell tower and then say it was "just a kiss" - +1 charisma and you stay just friends. Say no to Primrose when she invites you to the library at night and says she loves you - +1 charisma and stay freinds. Etc.
 

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OK WTF... 3 playthroughs, 3 times bad ending. Is the last point of Charisma that important for a good ending ?? If so, I can't , for the love of god, figure out which girl is not giving me the charisma point.
I break Selena's curse, and the demon then just kills me... Evelyn is hanged.

This game is now turning into a personal challenge for me.
I am currently at day 24, with my PDF WT, but it does take quite some time to make :O, so unless you don't want to cheat I will maybe have it done soon, but not sure :O

And at the same time I am trying to see if it truly is possible to get all paths open in the first PT with the good ending and all quests done :D
 

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Yeah, that's the same for me. Looks like u have to brainwash and fuck literally every girl to avoid this. Basically go for harem or die.
You just have to get them to a point where they're willing to date you. And TBF, the crone pretty much explicitly tells you "go for harem or die" at the beginning of the game, when she explains that you'll be facing a great evil, that failure will be disastrous, that you'll need all your faculties and to practice your mind control skills as much as possible, and that she doesn't care if you use it to sleep with girls as long as it helps you towards that greater goal.

glaurung, there's one more condition you're missing:

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Callie does not like getting pregnant no matter what.
You mean in the threesome path? Because in the solo path it's perfectly possible. "The pregnancy came as a surprise to Callie, though it didn't take long for her to welcome it. This was her love child with me, and she would treasure it always."
 

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You mean in the threesome path? Because in the solo path it's perfectly possible. "The pregnancy came as a surprise to Callie, though it didn't take long for her to welcome it. This was her love child with me, and she would treasure it always."
Huh, I missed that. If you're not in a relationship with her, she is always mad at the MC for knocking her up. In the threesome path, I'm pretty sure she never likes it either, but I could be wrong.
 
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glaurung

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You just have to get them to a point where they're willing to date you. And TBF, the crone pretty much explicitly tells you "go for harem or die" at the beginning of the game, when she explains that you'll be facing a great evil, that failure will be disastrous, that you'll need all your faculties and to practice your mind control skills as much as possible, and that she doesn't care if you use it to sleep with girls as long as it helps you towards that greater goal.

glaurung, there's one more condition you're missing:

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Drat, someone else said the probe memory thing wasn't actually needed and I took them at their word. Will make sure that bit goes back into the guide.
 

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Drat, someone else said the probe memory thing wasn't actually needed and I took them at their word. Will make sure that bit goes back into the guide.
I am pretty sure you need to get the innocent princess scene for the good ending :) therefore you need the probe memory
 
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bews

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even get the Lilith scene where the last Charisma point becomes relevant.
But I don't want to get that scene. It's really stupid that u can't clear the game withoit fucking crone.

and the 80+ coins is a very obvious sign that you did not manage your time right, since you have been working way to much.
I didn't work at all. U get 50 coins from Primrose and then 25 coins every week from Evelyn, while u have nothing to spend them on.

19 coins total, more than enough to get the 2nd magical training.
I obviously spent all those coins on that pixie costumes, since I was preparing for day 50, game said nothing about day 24 deadline. So when they gave me that deadline I had 0, and it was impossible to do everything that needs to be done AND farm 15 coins in 1 week. But if u let Primrose in jail even just for 1 day u can't clear the game anymore.
 

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You can get charisma points from everyone except Callie without having sex with them.
Well, Samarra will have sex with you regardless (after your first agility training, which is required to complete all quests and win), without any mind control. But otherwise, since you only need four of the five, you can win without manipulating any of them into sex.

Actually, I wonder what the minimum number of sex partners to win the game is…
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Drat, someone else said the probe memory thing wasn't actually needed and I took them at their word. Will make sure that bit goes back into the guide.
I don't think you need to cast Probe Memory and watch the flashback, but you do need to cast Invade Mind and reveal her secret (to reveal the Crone as Lilith, otherwise the sex scene with her is not an option; in that case you'll of course fail to break into Selena's mind during the endgame and get killed).
 

Tromilka

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But if u let Primrose in jail even just for 1 day u can't clear the game anymore.
As has been pointed out repeatedly, you only need charisma from 4 of the 5 girls, so you can win even if you fail to keep Primrose out of jail.

But I don't want to get that scene. It's really stupid that u can't clear the game withoit fucking crone.
Now you're just whining.
 

bews

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As has been pointed out repeatedly, you only need charisma from 4 of the 5 girls, so you can win even if you fail to keep Primrose out of jail.
Just checked it - nope, u need maxed charisma for crone. If u don't fuck crone u get bad end no matter what.
 
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