Oh, looks like Belle is covered with a white, sticky substance in my avatar today. I bet she's all pleased about it, too.
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girl and "girl", she's "bit" (like few 100 years) older than mc.
nope, she wants to be in warm hugging mc's cock.
I should have looked at the tags before playing this game.
If I had known that there was no Harem ending , and you would end up hurting the girls that you love and leave them broken , then i would have never played this game.
I don't think I've ever felt as empty/sad myself when playing endings of an H-game.
What a disappointment that was.
(And , i didn't see that coming at all because the game actively steers you towards romancing all the characters with the player's inner thoughts and Belle's dialogue , so i at least thought that there would have been an ending where you said "you know what , i just want to live my life as i've done recently.)
But , that is my own fault for not doing my research and being swept away by the pretty images.
The game itself up to that point (for me) was top notch , no argument there.
The girls are likeable , attractive.
The story makes sense (which is not always a given on this website.)
The writing is of a pretty good quality as well and even made me laugh a couple times.
The cast is very diverse which i always really like in adult games.
There is one thing about the actual content that isn't personal preference that really bugs me though.
Leanan Sidhe.
I don't understand why there wasn't a happy ending for her.
- Her finding a cure and coming back.
- The MC missing her so much that he decides to join her on the journey , regardless of the risks.
- The MC finding a cure himself and seeking her out.
- Or , even her coming back and them accepting there is no cure but being together without being physical anymore because they love each other.
There could have been so many options.
So , i can't help but to feel as if the developer wasn't as invested in the game anymore when he/she created the endings and just wanted to be done with it. (That feeling is strengthened by the very short endings for the individual characters.)
This game would have been solid in my top 3 games of all time would it not have been for the last 1% of the game.
Now? It's likely a game that i will never touch again.
Despite that , i did decide to pledge to the developer of this game.
I did enjoy myself for a good 10+ hours , and that alone deserves a Journeyman pledge for a couple months.
If I had known that there was no Harem ending , and you would end up hurting the girls that you love and leave them broken , then i would have never played this game.
I don't think I've ever felt as empty/sad myself when playing endings of an H-game.
What a disappointment that was.
(And , i didn't see that coming at all because the game actively steers you towards romancing all the characters with the player's inner thoughts and Belle's dialogue , so i at least thought that there would have been an ending where you said "you know what , i just want to live my life as i've done recently.)
But , that is my own fault for not doing my research and being swept away by the pretty images.
The game itself up to that point (for me) was top notch , no argument there.
The girls are likeable , attractive.
The story makes sense (which is not always a given on this website.)
The writing is of a pretty good quality as well and even made me laugh a couple times.
The cast is very diverse which i always really like in adult games.
There is one thing about the actual content that isn't personal preference that really bugs me though.
Leanan Sidhe.
I don't understand why there wasn't a happy ending for her.
- Her finding a cure and coming back.
- The MC missing her so much that he decides to join her on the journey , regardless of the risks.
- The MC finding a cure himself and seeking her out.
- Or , even her coming back and them accepting there is no cure but being together without being physical anymore because they love each other.
There could have been so many options.
So , i can't help but to feel as if the developer wasn't as invested in the game anymore when he/she created the endings and just wanted to be done with it. (That feeling is strengthened by the very short endings for the individual characters.)
This game would have been solid in my top 3 games of all time would it not have been for the last 1% of the game.
Now? It's likely a game that i will never touch again.
Despite that , i did decide to pledge to the developer of this game.
I did enjoy myself for a good 10+ hours , and that alone deserves a Journeyman pledge for a couple months.
I'm not going to judge your tastes in storytelling, but it sounds like you haven't been exposed to anything but the blandest of stories in the past. Most good literature doesn't feature purely happy endings (and if they do, it's typically because the story has made itself worthy of such a thing through the telling, something that doesn't happen often). The best stories are usually bittersweet, and that's how my stories lean too.
The sad or unresolved parts of this story are there to add weight and consequence to a game that relies heavily on actual choice. If the consequences weren't there, the choices would be meaningless. And a 100% happy ending for a character who's been behaving like a jerk, even if the narrator (himself) doesn't call him out on it, would hit a false note.
You can get an almost sickeningly sweet happy ending from this game if your choices support this, but most players are likely going to end up with something bittersweet.
Additionally, you might find the endings short, but that's also highly deliberate on my part. It's all too easy to linger too long after the climax of a story, at which point the audience is already spent. Most stories are best served by quickly wrapping up once the climax has passed, and this is certainly no exception. The epilogue is almost too long as it is, and extending it would add nothing of value, in my opinion.
To circle around to the beginning again, it really sounds like you need to broaden your exposure to literature (or entertainment) if a story like LLtP bothers you in how it resolves itself. I'm not going to sit here and claim that my storytelling is perfect, but it is definitely not something that happens by accident or by stumbling into it without purpose. I know what I'm doing and what I want to achieve, and I didn't cut off anything because I got tired of it. This is the story I wanted to tell.
Thank you!
I've tried this game a few years ago, and I was disappointed that Im being given a choice twice, and both times my choice was ignored.
Is it still like that?
The actual part was where two guys were assaulting some chick. I didnt want anything to do with it, so selected to keep walking, only for the game to slap my hand, going 'NO! This is NOT the option you are supposed to chose!', and forced me to interact with them. Then, I had an option to walk away or fight, I selected 'walk away' and the game went 'NO! This is part where we fight!'. After that I closed and uninstalled it.
Is it still like that?
The actual part was where two guys were assaulting some chick. I didnt want anything to do with it, so selected to keep walking, only for the game to slap my hand, going 'NO! This is NOT the option you are supposed to chose!', and forced me to interact with them. Then, I had an option to walk away or fight, I selected 'walk away' and the game went 'NO! This is part where we fight!'. After that I closed and uninstalled it.
You're talking about some other game. I have no idea what that bottom description is even from, but it's definitely not LLtP.
My post was not intended to critique or bash your content or you as a developer , and i'm sorry if it might have turned out like that.I'm not going to judge your tastes in storytelling, but it sounds like you haven't been exposed to anything but the blandest of stories in the past. Most good literature doesn't feature purely happy endings (and if they do, it's typically because the story has made itself worthy of such a thing through the telling, something that doesn't happen often). The best stories are usually bittersweet, and that's how my stories lean too.
The sad or unresolved parts of this story are there to add weight and consequence to a game that relies heavily on actual choice. If the consequences weren't there, the choices would be meaningless. And a 100% happy ending for a character who's been behaving like a jerk, even if the narrator (himself) doesn't call him out on it, would hit a false note.
You can get an almost sickeningly sweet happy ending from this game if your choices support this, but most players are likely going to end up with something bittersweet.
Additionally, you might find the endings short, but that's also highly deliberate on my part. It's all too easy to linger too long after the climax of a story, at which point the audience is already spent. Most stories are best served by quickly wrapping up once the climax has passed, and this is certainly no exception. The epilogue is almost too long as it is, and extending it would add nothing of value, in my opinion.
To circle around to the beginning again, it really sounds like you need to broaden your exposure to literature (or entertainment) if a story like LLtP bothers you in how it resolves itself. I'm not going to sit here and claim that my storytelling is perfect, but it is definitely not something that happens by accident or by stumbling into it without purpose. I know what I'm doing and what I want to achieve, and I didn't cut off anything because I got tired of it. This is the story I wanted to tell.
Thank you!
My post were just my personal thoughts and preferences, nothing else.
The fact that not everything was to my liking in your game doesn't mean that i think it's a bad game.
Quite the opposite in fact , i grew attached to the females in the game and that doesn't happen quite often to me , so that alone is for me already an example of good writing.
That i would have liked to see a happy ending or that i wanted to see more of Leanan Sidhe has nothing to do with how you develop your game.
Your game is how it is , simple as that. We players have to accept that and allow you to have your creative freedom.
But , we can always talk about the parts that we would have liked to have seen differently ourselves.
Not to say that you should have done that , but to relieve ourselves of our own imagination/fantasies/thoughts.
For example , i am a huge fan of innie's so a lot of the girls in this game were top notch to me.
I was hoping for a nice grinding scene , because that is always a +1 for me with innies.
The fact that that wasn't in the game doesn't make it bad , but i can always feel sad that it wasn't there. ^^
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I'm only a couple of game days into the title. But I like the originality of the story and game play. It will be interesting to see what awaits in this game.
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maybe but not via sucking life.
lots of sexy time. time limited or unlimited?
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My apologies for commenting once again so soon. But if the Developer still reads the comments section. I wanted them to know, Belle is by far my favorite character She is one of the funniest characters I've come across in a Visual Novel. And I'm only on day 9 of 50 ○_○ I can only imagine what else is instore for me.
She is one of the funniest characters I've come across in a Visual Novel. And I'm only on day 9 of 50 ○_○ I can only imagine what else is instore for me.
Well, obviously I read this thread, though I wouldn't call it a "comments section" as if this was the bottom of a news article or something.
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My apologies for using the improper wording in my comment. I meant no disrespect, when I spoke of you potentially not reading the comments section any longer. I was uncertain if you did, due to the age of this "thread" I think is what you it call. Speaking of comments section, I was unaware of what else to call it. Hence my reasoning for my selected words. So once again, you have my sincerest apologies.Well, obviously I read this thread, though I wouldn't call it a "comments section" as if this was the bottom of a news article or something.
Perhaps I am unfamiliar with certain terminology of the internet. For that, all I can do is learn. Keep up the great work you do. You have real talent for creating games.
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The no-incest version of the game has the exact same puzzle as the incest version of the game. So, this is the same puzzle as in the walkthrough, just adjusted to be about Tom and his parents instead of Evelyn and her parents.
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I think there are some warnings somewhere that romancing multiple girls at once is problematic, aren't there? In any case, as Belle said, by acting responsibly and calibrating your level of charm very carefully it is possible (though not, I would say, easy) to get a perfectly happy ending for everybody. Just not a harem ending.
Don't sweat it, but if you want the right terms, it's usually called a "post" in a "discussion thread."
One thing that struck me as a "plot hole" in the incest version of the puzzle:
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