glaurung

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Maybe somebody can help me out? I'm stuck at that exact point. The option to convinve Nell doesn't appear - neither at the stables nor in the tent. Can someone come up wit a clue, what I might have missed? And threatening her is something I wouldn't want to do ...
It's definitely an annoying quest to accomplish.

Make sure you meet all of these prerequisites:

1. be her boyfriend (if you aren't in a relationship with her, you can just pass a charisma check and convince her in conversation).
2. Have gotten the quest to bring her to the Fairy Queen (obviously).
3. have revealed her dark secret.
4. have tried to convince her to go in normal conversation and failed (so you get the option to threaten to break up with her or to give up for now).
5. Giving up for now should make your character think to himself something about that's a hint about trying remove inhibitions. If you don't see that hint (I don't recall the wording, sorry), try convincing her normally again.

I am not completely sure if these are necessary:
5. Have enough charisma (make sure you're maxed out).
6. Have used remove inhibitions on her and taken her to the tent previously (I think I ran into an issue once where the dialog line didn't show up because it was the first time I had taken her to the tent in that playthrough, but it showed up once I left the tent and came back).


And for reference, here's the sequence again:
Try to convince her normally, fail
Cast remove inhibitions, go to the tent with her.
Choose the line about making her willing to go, get told the tent is the wrong place for that.
Go back to the stables, and you're finally able to remove the inhibition so you can convince her without threats.
 
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Thanks for the hints. I finally solved this by repeatedly going to the tent and back again. At some point, the option "maker her more willing" appeared. Took several repetitions ...
 
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It's definitely an annoying quest to accomplish.

Make sure you meet all of these prerequisites:

1. be her boyfriend (if you aren't in a relationship with her, you can just pass a charisma check and convince her in conversation).
2. Have gotten the quest to bring her to the Fairy Queen (obviously).
3. have revealed her dark secret.
4. have tried to convince her to go in normal conversation and failed (so you get the option to threaten to break up with her or to give up for now).
5. Giving up for now should make your character think to himself something about that's a hint about trying remove inhibitions. If you don't see that hint (I don't recall the wording, sorry), try convincing her normally again.

I am not completely sure if these are necessary:
5. Have enough charisma (make sure you're maxed out).
6. Have used remove inhibitions on her and taken her to the tent previously (I think I ran into an issue once where the dialog line didn't show up because it was the first time I had taken her to the tent in that playthrough, but it showed up once I left the tent and came back).


And for reference, here's the sequence again:
Try to convince her normally, fail
Cast remove inhibitions, go to the tent with her.
Choose the line about making her willing to go, get told the tent is the wrong place for that.
Go back to the stables, and you're finally able to remove the inhibition so you can convince her without threats.
I don't really remember how it went down, but in my first play through, I convinced her to go without becoming her boyfriend.
 

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I don't really remember how it went down, but in my first play through, I convinced her to go without becoming her boyfriend.
That's easy, it just takes some charisma and having revealed all her secrets.
If you're her BF, then charisma won't work. You can *only* do it by threatening to break up with her (she stays mad at you for several days) or by wrangling remove inhibitions in exactly the right way.
 

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So I just grabbed version 1.0.1. I had previously played an older version up to a certain point. Anyways, I just restarted and immediately I see Evelyn refer to me as "little brother" and I've got to say.... that's 100% not going to work for me. How do I get it back to how it was before? Where she's unrelated.
 

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So I just grabbed version 1.0.1. I had previously played an older version up to a certain point. Anyways, I just restarted and immediately I see Evelyn refer to me as "little brother" and I've got to say.... that's 100% not going to work for me. How do I get it back to how it was before? Where she's unrelated.
That's the Patreon version. You currently have the SubscribeStar version, which is the one that is currently posted in this thread.

But you are in luck! Because Belle is awesome, and the final release version is free.

 
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So I just grabbed version 1.0.1. I had previously played an older version up to a certain point. Anyways, I just restarted and immediately I see Evelyn refer to me as "little brother" and I've got to say.... that's 100% not going to work for me. How do I get it back to how it was before? Where she's unrelated.
Simple cheat sheet:

If you want Evelyn to be related to the main character, download the game from Subscribestar.
If you want them to not be related, download it from patreon.

On both sites, the final version of the game is available for free without subscribing.
 
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If you find any errors or have constructive suggestions to improve the usability of this walkthrough/guide, please let me know.
Hi. I don't know if this is an error or if I messed up somewhere along the way. I don't think I did, but I've run into a problem. I do have v1.01 of the game and v1.0.1 of the guide. On Day 24 Morning, your guide says to go through the records. I can do that. I check the
parents -> Reynold -> Death Year -> Back and then the guide says to pick Evelyn. Evelyn doesn't show up as an option for me, so I thought maybe it was a mistake and I was supposed to check Tom's birth date because there's an obvious contradiction there. Fast forward to Day 27 morning and I'm supposed to confront Aldred with what I found. I can do the dark secret and the first option of "According to the town hall..." but after that, nothing is quite as the guide lays out. I ended up telling him of the 4 year discrepancy and it seemed like that was the right option. But then in the afternoon when I confront Evelyn, it doesn't go right at all. It says I can't do her dark secret because I haven't learned it. I assume that Aldred was supposed to confess something to me, but since the guide didn't line up, I didn't get it. I reloaded my save from the morning of Day 24 and tried again, just to be sure and it went the same way again.

So now I'm wondering where the error is? The guide, or me? Did something happen earlier that I missed or where the guide was wrong? It would take a long time to start over and get back to this point so I'm hoping you might know. I just want to re-emphasize that I'm positive I followed all steps exactly as written up until this point.

Thanks!
 
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glaurung

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Hi. I don't know if this is an error or if I messed up somewhere along the way. I don't think I did, but I've run into a problem. I do have v1.01 of the game and v1.0.1 of the guide. On Day 24 Morning, your guide says to go through the records. I can do that. I check the
parents -> Reynold -> Death Year -> Back and then the guide says to pick Evelyn. Evelyn doesn't show up as an option for me, so I thought maybe it was a mistake and I was supposed to check Tom's birth date because there's an obvious contradiction there. Fast forward to Day 27 morning and I'm supposed to confront Aldred with what I found. I can do the dark secret and the first option of "According to the town hall..." but after that, nothing is quite as the guide lays out. I ended up telling him of the 4 year discrepancy and it seemed like that was the right option. But then in the afternoon when I confront Evelyn, it doesn't go right at all. It says I can't do her dark secret because I haven't learned it. I assume that Aldred was supposed to confess something to me, but since the guide didn't line up, I didn't get it. I reloaded my save from the morning of Day 24 and tried again, just to be sure and it went the same way again.

So now I'm wondering where the error is? The guide, or me? Did something happen earlier that I missed or where the guide was wrong? It would take a long time to start over and get back to this point so I'm hoping you might know. I just want to re-emphasize that I'm positive I followed all steps exactly as written up until this point.

Thanks!
The town hall records quest is different depending on which version of the game you are playing. The walkthrough you are using is written for the version of the game where Evelyn is the protagonist's sister.

In the version of the game where Evelyn is not related to the protagonist, then the quest is not about her and her parents, but about her fiancee and his parents. Everything else about the quest is the same (search the same records, talk to Aldred for more info, etc), it's just no longer about the same people.

With Aldred, you ask him about the clue you've found, he refuses to talk to you about it. You do the reveal secret/remove inhibition thing, and finally you have to talk to him again about the clue to get confirmation and added details.

There's only ever one clue for this quest, with the image of the town hall records as its icon. But, it gets modified by talking to Aldred after revealing his secret. Without the details Aldred adds, it's insufficient for revealing Evelyn's secret.
 
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Whats the song that plays when you are using the invade mind spell? I played every song in the music player and couldnt find it.
 

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Whats the song that plays when you are using the invade mind spell? I played every song in the music player and couldnt find it.
It's the appropriately named "Searching for Truth." That track was split into three for this game, which is the reason for your struggle to find it. The first part was used for Evelyn's theme, while the Invade Mind theme only starts partway into the track.
 

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Hello there, could someone tell me that what is the harem ending exactly? Is it the ending that the MC married with two Princesses or with all girls that are in romantic relationship with the MC?
 

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The harem ending was a bad one,the MC absorbs the power of the devil and becomes the king, no one can resist him, and the girls become emotionless puppets of the MC.
Thanks for the answer, mate, guess I would stick to the Evelyn and Callie threesome ending now, too bad there's no good harem ending. And still, it is a good game in all ways.
 

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I'd say however clues are literally not enough for this section and it actually make a lot more sense this supposition then she being lesbian..
Mirror effect if you want (no idea how is actually called), there's a condition that is based over narcissism but not only, making something that you would like to be done to you using imagination and touch sense, is literally a kind of masturbation to overcome loniless or trying to experience some kinks without actually do (es self harm), this is much more common then you think..

Anyway like i was saying before i really don't think there's enough proof to be saying this, and unless i don't get her masturbating around a corner (that might be also exhibitionism xD ) there's no valid reason to break her mind.
 
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Okay i'm stuck on Nells dark secret and all the info i can find is the first clue and third are the same...well that's awesome but how about the second clue??
 

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Okay i'm stuck on Nells dark secret and all the info i can find is the first clue and third are the same...well that's awesome but how about the second clue??
1st clue: learn it from Samarra. Specifically: how Samarra came to adopt Nell
2nd clue: solve the Fairy Queen's vision riddle and learn a clue from her. Specifically: that she has not had any children

The clues seemingly contradict each other. In the multiple choice part of the secret reveal, just remember that both clues are true
 

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I'd say however clues are literally not enough for this section and it actually make a lot more sense this supposition then she being lesbian..
Mirror effect if you want (no idea how is actually called), there's a condition that is based over narcissism but not only, making something that you would like to be done to you using imagination and touch sense, is literally a kind of masturbation to overcome loniless or trying to experience some kinks without actually do (es self harm), this is much more common then you think..

Anyway like i was saying before i really don't think there's enough proof to be saying this, and unless i don't get her masturbating around a corner (that might be also exhibitionism xD ) there's no valid reason to break her mind.
You're forgetting that there's a second clue, where she's trying to turn down a male suitor. The phrasing of the letter she tries to write to him makes it pretty clear how you're supposed to interpret the scene where she's fondling the mannequin.

"the clues are not enough" can be said of a number of other secrets in the game where you have to select from multiple choices. At some point you just have to make an informed guess. The page up key on your keyboard lets you back up and try a different response. The game would be a lot more boring if every secret was clearly obvious and you didn't have to make guesses and get things wrong sometimes.
 
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Indeed, a select few of the secrets in this game deliberately give you just too little information to be entirely certain about the correct answer yet give you clues enough to drive you towards the correct answer, even if you don't feel entirely confident about it. Most of the secrets are not designed this way, and it's mostly the smaller ones where it happens while you're still trying to figure out the person you're interrogating.

It is by design. The game gives you the opportunity to retry (more often as your powers grow) up to a few times per game day, so don't be afraid to mess up. The women will forget your conversation anyway.

Then again, writing interrogative sequences like the ones in this game is extremely difficult. The writers for the Ace Attorney games are masters at their craft, which becomes particularly obvious when you see examples of otherwise competent studios that try and fail at doing the same thing. Take miHoYo (of Genshin Impact and Honkai Star Rail fame) for example. They've made multiple quests in these games that try to copy the Ace Attorney style, but they clearly don't understand how to write such sequences, leading to near-random guesswork and unsatisfying, unearned conclusions.

I'm happy about how LLtP's interrogations turned out. Are they perfect? No, but I definitely feel like they accomplished what I set out to do with them.
 
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