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Mostly quoting from my guide:

Pre-endgame:
- Evelyn must still be in town (not driven away).
- Primrose must not be in jail.
- Courage and charisma need to be at maximum.
- You have mastered the "morph sexuality" spell.
- Reveal Evelyn's large secret (where she goes at night) and talk
about it with her.
- Reveal all of Evelyn's secrets.
- Reveal Primrose's dark secret.
- Reveal the Crone's secret.
- Unravel the mystery of the Fairy Queen's vision and fulfill the
quest she gives you.

Endgame Errands:
During the first day of the endgame, you need to choose who to ask for
help with two final errands. Evelyn and Primrose cannot help with them.
Nell can help with one and will never refuse.
Callie can help with either, but might refuse if she doesn't like you enough.
Samarra can help with either, and might refuse if you haven't earned enough respect from her.

Endgame, final choices:
- when given the choice, kiss the (former) Crone.
- when given the choice, go with Evelyn.


I thinks its Samara for the combat thing

Nell for the berries

and callie for the other one ( dont remmember ) for the best ending.

and you must have solved the crones seceret and used the probe memory spell on her

also, there is only 1 full harem and 1. two-women ending in this game.
 

glaurung

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I thinks its Samara for the combat thing

Nell for the berries

and callie for the other one ( dont remmember ) for the best ending.

and you must have solved the crones seceret and used the probe memory spell on her

also, there is only 1 full harem and 1. two-women ending in this game.
There's just two errands: berries and getting access to the place where the princess is. You can use any two of Samarra, Nell, and Callie to accomplish those tasks.

I've never tried to win without using probe memory, but I am told that it is optional.
 

gabrielbj87

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Hi Everyone, so i play this game a couple times to get Everything,and there are two things i dont know how to geit. First: A Scene with Evelyn that says:Never interrupt a Politician work and Second: The "Worth it" Achievement where im supossed to comitt murder. Can anybody help? Thanks!
 

glaurung

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Hi Everyone, so i play this game a couple times to get Everything,and there are two things i dont know how to geit. First: A Scene with Evelyn that says:Never interrupt a Politician work and Second: The "Worth it" Achievement where im supossed to comitt murder. Can anybody help? Thanks!
Politician: Try to talk to Thaddeus when he is with Evelyn, do not interrupt them. Keep doing that until the scenes start to repeat.

Worth it: start the endgame without having gotten the 3rd training session with the crone (which means not revealing Evelyn's dark secret), and possibly without having revealed Evelyn's small secret either. Go with Evelyn to arrest Thaddeus. Something bad happens to Evelyn and you take revenge.
 
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gabrielbj87

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Hey guys, so i have one more question about the "Worth it" Achievement, i know i have to skip the 3rd training session with the crone (And dont reveal Evelyn's dark secret ) then go with her to arrest Thaddeus.But if i dont train to the max,how do i stop the fairy queen from starting a war at the end? In order to avoid this, i have to send Nell to her dont i? and i need her darkest secret
 

glaurung

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Hey guys, so i have one more question about the "Worth it" Achievement, i know i have to skip the 3rd training session with the crone (And dont reveal Evelyn's dark secret ) then go with her to arrest Thaddeus.But if i dont train to the max,how do i stop the fairy queen from starting a war at the end? In order to avoid this, i have to send Nell to her dont i? and i need her darkest secret
I haven't actually tried to get this achievement, but I have played a game where I did not take Nell to the FQ and the endgame started without a war happening. So there's more than one way to avert the war - besides the usual way (fulfilling the FQ's quest), I think the other method is to follow the relationship path with the FQ. She's not going to start a war of extermination against humans if the lover who gives her mind blowing orgasms is a human himself.
 

gabrielbj87

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I haven't actually tried to get this achievement, but I have played a game where I did not take Nell to the FQ and the endgame started without a war happening. So there's more than one way to avert the war - besides the usual way (fulfilling the FQ's quest), I think the other method is to follow the relationship path with the FQ. She's not going to start a war of extermination against humans if the lover who gives her mind blowing orgasms is a human himself.
You were right!!!! By making the Fairy queen fall in love,she didnt star a war, i got the final achievement.Thanks!
 

Belle

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I think I changed this slightly during the final stages of development, but I believe the requirement for avoiding a war with the fairy kingdom is simply to progress the story to the point where the Fairy King leaves the Fairy Queen. I might be mistaken, but this is what I remember. It was never meant to be difficult to avoid and was a condition I introduced only to deal with situations in which players ignored the Fairy Queen entirely, in which case it made no sense for her to do nothing at all.
 

gabrielbj87

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I think I changed this slightly during the final stages of development, but I believe the requirement for avoiding a war with the fairy kingdom is simply to progress the story to the point where the Fairy King leaves the Fairy Queen. I might be mistaken, but this is what I remember. It was never meant to be difficult to avoid and was a condition I introduced only to deal with situations in which players ignored the Fairy Queen entirely, in which case it made no sense for her to do nothing at all.
Hey man, first of all: Great game...Second, if the Fairy King Leaves the Queen but you do not pursue a relationship with her, there is still a war, i know because i tried this Achievement and the "No Girlfriends" in one Playthrough. I already got them all!!!
 
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I think I changed this slightly during the final stages of development, but I believe the requirement for avoiding a war with the fairy kingdom is simply to progress the story to the point where the Fairy King leaves the Fairy Queen. I might be mistaken, but this is what I remember. It was never meant to be difficult to avoid and was a condition I introduced only to deal with situations in which players ignored the Fairy Queen entirely, in which case it made no sense for her to do nothing at all.
Ooh, I didn't know you were active on this thread! Since you're here, I wanted to ask about a couple of things that I'm having difficulty with, regarding Evelyn.

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Ooh, I didn't know you were active on this thread! Since you're here, I wanted to ask about a couple of things that I'm having difficulty with, regarding Evelyn.

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Evelyn and Thaddeus: You can put a stop to it the first time you see them together (the kissing scene), or not. This has no effect on your being able to win the game.

Relationship with Evelyn:
She has an inhibition which you must remove *before* you tell her your feelings. You learn of the existence of the inhibition while you are revealing her large secret. You become able to remove the inhibition after you've revealed her dark secret.
Do not reveal your feelings to her until *after* you have removed the inhibition and confirmed that it no longer appears in her "remove inhibitions" menu. (you can't remove it immediately after you reveal the dark secret, you have to end the spell and talk to her about the dark secret before you're able to remove the inhibition)

Once you've told her how you feel, she might or might not drag you into bed with her the next evening, depending on her feelings for you (ie, how often you've given her back rubs). Also, it is *much* harder, if not impossible, to get her to accept your offer of romance without ending the Evelyn-Thaddeus thing first.
 
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Evelyn and Thaddeus: You can put a stop to it the first time you see them together (the kissing scene), or not. This has no effect on your being able to win the game.

Relationship with Evelyn:
She has an inhibition which you must remove *before* you tell her your feelings. You learn of the existence of the inhibition while you are revealing her large secret. You become able to remove the inhibition after you've revealed her dark secret.
Do not reveal your feelings to her until *after* you have removed the inhibition and confirmed that it no longer appears in her "remove inhibitions" menu. (you can't remove it immediately after you reveal the dark secret, you have to end the spell and talk to her about the dark secret before you're able to remove the inhibition)

Once you've told her how you feel, she might or might not drag you into bed with her the next evening, depending on her feelings for you (ie, how often you've given her back rubs). Also, it is *much* harder, if not impossible, to get her to accept your offer of romance without ending the Evelyn-Thaddeus thing first.
Oh, snap! I think I know where I effed up! I told her my feelings before doing the final invade mind on her. Thanks, this should help me make things different this time around.

Also, thanks for letting me know that there's no real consequences (besides losing out on a little bit of cash) to telling Thadeus to go scratch. He can go beat his dick to all the panties I collected for him.
 
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Belle

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Ooh, I didn't know you were active on this thread! Since you're here, I wanted to ask about a couple of things that I'm having difficulty with, regarding Evelyn.
I've been active in this thread since day 1. However, I'm not even remotely close to being the best person to ask for walkthrough questions. Keep in mind that the way I've played (i.e. playtested) the game over the years has been completely different from how normal players play it. Even if I had the time to help everyone who gets stuck out (I really don't), the help I can offer is limited and typically ends with me having to dig through the code because I just can't remember what to do when anymore. People who play the game instead of develop it are much better suited to this kind of help because their experience is much closer to your own than mine could ever possibly be. It's just the nature of game development.

More generally speaking, and this isn't aimed at you, I tend to be careful about helping with walkthrough-related questions anyway. I've tried to be nice in the past and help out above and beyond, but far too often, it results in the person I'm helping ending up asking me for help every step of the way through the game as if I was their personal walkthrough and as if I wasn't super-busy actually developing the thing. It can get a bit tiresome since these questions pop up a lot. Not recently though, but it became a daily thing back when LLtP was still in active development.

Most game developers would love to be everywhere all at once, helping out with every little question. But most of the time, that's just unrealistic.
 

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To get her to go with you to the fey court when you're in a relationship with her, without threats:

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It's one of the more annoying puzzles in the game.
Maybe somebody can help me out? I'm stuck at that exact point. The option to convinve Nell doesn't appear - neither at the stables nor in the tent. Can someone come up wit a clue, what I might have missed? And threatening her is something I wouldn't want to do ...
 

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Maybe somebody can help me out? I'm stuck at that exact point. The option to convinve Nell doesn't appear - neither at the stables nor in the tent. Can someone come up wit a clue, what I might have missed? And threatening her is something I wouldn't want to do ...
It's definitely an annoying quest to accomplish.

Make sure you meet all of these prerequisites:

1. be her boyfriend (if you aren't in a relationship with her, you can just pass a charisma check and convince her in conversation).
2. Have gotten the quest to bring her to the Fairy Queen (obviously).
3. have revealed her dark secret.
4. have tried to convince her to go in normal conversation and failed (so you get the option to threaten to break up with her or to give up for now).
5. Giving up for now should make your character think to himself something about that's a hint about trying remove inhibitions. If you don't see that hint (I don't recall the wording, sorry), try convincing her normally again.

I am not completely sure if these are necessary:
5. Have enough charisma (make sure you're maxed out).
6. Have used remove inhibitions on her and taken her to the tent previously (I think I ran into an issue once where the dialog line didn't show up because it was the first time I had taken her to the tent in that playthrough, but it showed up once I left the tent and came back).


And for reference, here's the sequence again:
Try to convince her normally, fail
Cast remove inhibitions, go to the tent with her.
Choose the line about making her willing to go, get told the tent is the wrong place for that.
Go back to the stables, and you're finally able to remove the inhibition so you can convince her without threats.
 
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aischylochos

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Thanks for the hints. I finally solved this by repeatedly going to the tent and back again. At some point, the option "maker her more willing" appeared. Took several repetitions ...
 
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Janus6966

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It's definitely an annoying quest to accomplish.

Make sure you meet all of these prerequisites:

1. be her boyfriend (if you aren't in a relationship with her, you can just pass a charisma check and convince her in conversation).
2. Have gotten the quest to bring her to the Fairy Queen (obviously).
3. have revealed her dark secret.
4. have tried to convince her to go in normal conversation and failed (so you get the option to threaten to break up with her or to give up for now).
5. Giving up for now should make your character think to himself something about that's a hint about trying remove inhibitions. If you don't see that hint (I don't recall the wording, sorry), try convincing her normally again.

I am not completely sure if these are necessary:
5. Have enough charisma (make sure you're maxed out).
6. Have used remove inhibitions on her and taken her to the tent previously (I think I ran into an issue once where the dialog line didn't show up because it was the first time I had taken her to the tent in that playthrough, but it showed up once I left the tent and came back).


And for reference, here's the sequence again:
Try to convince her normally, fail
Cast remove inhibitions, go to the tent with her.
Choose the line about making her willing to go, get told the tent is the wrong place for that.
Go back to the stables, and you're finally able to remove the inhibition so you can convince her without threats.
I don't really remember how it went down, but in my first play through, I convinced her to go without becoming her boyfriend.
 
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