So what the creators need is some kind of creative "union" that can pool money for lawyers? I'm just thinking about all the questionable content that can be found in fiction over, I don't know, the last 100 years. I'm sure there were publishers that refused to publish some works and I'm also sure there were publishers that would publish those same works just because of the risque nature of the fiction.
sure they could hire lawyer but they'd need to be quite sure of victory since if they lost they'd need to pay hefty sum (if for example patreon has few 100k expenses then it's big summ to pay even if there's 100 payers).
history tells that there has been several bans/censorships for not allowed literature, movies with nudity not allowed to be shown anywhere officially, comic books couldn't show certain things (sex (incl, nudity, rape, etc), real horror, etc), etc (it's quite a long list) and even nowadays nudity in tv/movies isn't that allowed in america etc.
Hi I have an issue. I am playing v32 but I am on Day 49 morning however i dont know if itñs a bug but on Day 36 afternoon I din´t have the option: ask about family records.
Also I am not able to have sex with evelyn because I have not been able to solve Evelyn´s darkness secret. I am gettting a meesage when I invite her mind about: I don´t have the knowledge I need to get through her and I am not able to know how to resolve this
Hi I have an issue. I am playing v32 but I am on Day 49 morning however i dont know if itñs a bug but on Day 36 afternoon I din´t have the option: ask about family records.
Also I am not able to have sex with evelyn because I have not been able to solve Evelyn´s darkness secret. I am gettting a meesage when I invite her mind about: I don´t have the knowledge I need to get through her and I am not able to know how to resolve this
I don't check this thread in a long time and the first time I do I see this news about Patreon. Good grief it felt like a punch in the gut. I am not sure I would continue with a future version if the Patreon version is the only one available in the future. As much as I love the story it just wouldn't be the same for me. Oh man this is sad.
I don't check this thread in a long time and the first time I do I see this news about Patreon. Good grief it felt like a punch in the gut. I am not sure I would continue with a future version if the Patreon version is the only one available in the future. As much as I love the story it just wouldn't be the same for me. Oh man this is sad.
I've already canceled my subscription on Patreon and have renewed my patronage on SubscribeStar.
EDIT: Belle is up to 39 subscribers on SubscribeStar. A long way to go, but it is rising. I think it was 27 when Belle received word from Patreon.
That's a good thing though isn't it? It will be simple to create an unofficial patch because the content is there to be patched in. If this happened earlier this may not have been possible.
That's a good thing though isn't it? It will be simple to create an unofficial patch because the content is there to be patched in. If this happened earlier this may not have been possible.
Well being watched it will be impossible for Belle to do it if she even would want to take the risk, which she answered with a nope for completely valid reasons from her pov. For an evil modder it will take at least a few weeks to make that patch from scratch as it is also taking Belle that long to rework it and she has to change a lot of code as shown in her last patreon post. So that will have to be an incredibly passionate modder that also will have to work out how Belle was planning to do last parts of game originally. So even if someone like that would come along, do not expect so for a few months.
For an evil modder it will take at least a few weeks to make that patch from scratch as it is also taking Belle that long to rework it and she has to change a lot of code as shown in her last patreon post. [...]
So even if someone like that would come along, do not expect so for a few months.
It doubt it will take more than a day to create a patched version. The code is seperated by character, as in all of Evelyn stuff is in a file callled evelyn.rpy. In addition to that, Belle wrote out all variables and what they mean at the beginning of every script. It's like a beautiful homework assingment waiting to be turned in.
Here's what I see a patch needs to do:
- replace the new file with the old evelyn.rpy
- check if there are entirely new lines of code in evelyn.rpy, add those and change them if they refer to their new realtionship.
- check for differences in the other files (like tutorial.rpy and progression_scripts.rpy) with a text editor that can compare files and change those back.
Or probably even easier:
- download original version of 0.32
- download the upcoming patreon-approved version of 0.32
- download the upcoming 0.33 with endgame part 3
- Compare the new 0.32 and 0.33 for new additions
- add those additions to the old 0.32 and change anything that warrants a change regarding Evelyn's and MC's relationship.
(This may be more tricky if 0.33 uses variables that don't exist in the original 0.32, but again it should be really easy to find the counterparts in Belle's code.)
Weeks? Belle said the change is going to be suprisingly small and will hopefully only take a few days:
It doubt it will take more than a day to create a patched version. The code is seperated by character, as in all of Evelyn stuff is in a file callled evelyn.rpy. In addition to that, Belle wrote out all variables and what they mean at the beginning of every script. It's like a beautiful homework assingment waiting to be turned in.
Here's what I see a patch needs to do:
- replace the new file with the old evelyn.rpy
- check if there are entirely new lines of code in evelyn.rpy, add those and change them if they refer to their new realtionship.
- check for differences in the other files (like tutorial.rpy and progression_scripts.rpy) with a text editor that can compare files and change those back.
Or probably even easier:
- download original version of 0.32
- download the upcoming patreon-approved version of 0.32
- download the upcoming 0.33 with endgame part 3
- Compare the new 0.32 and 0.33 for new additions
- add those additions to the old 0.32 and change anything that warrants a change regarding Evelyn's and MC's relationship.
(This may be more tricky if 0.33 uses variables that don't exist in the original 0.32, but again it should be really easy to find the counterparts in Belle's code.)
The good things is we mostly only need to replace things, not rewrite them.
If no one else steps up, I'll see what I can do. We'll see if I'm just spewing nonsense.
Of course anything I may do is not endorsed by or affiliated with Belle.
The good things is we mostly only need to replace things, not rewrite them.
If no one else steps up, I'll see what I can do. We'll see if I'm just spewing nonsense.
Of course anything I may do is not endorsed by or affiliated with Belle.
Here's what I see a patch needs to do:
- replace the new file with the old evelyn.rpy
- check if there are entirely new lines of code in evelyn.rpy, add those and change them if they refer to their new realtionship.
- check for differences in the other files (like tutorial.rpy and progression_scripts.rpy) with a text editor that can compare files and change those back.
Or probably even easier:
- download original version of 0.32
- download the upcoming patreon-approved version of 0.32
- download the upcoming 0.33 with endgame part 3
- Compare the new 0.32 and 0.33 for new additions
- add those additions to the old 0.32 and change anything that warrants a change regarding Evelyn's and MC's relationship.
(This may be more tricky if 0.33 uses variables that don't exist in the original 0.32, but again it should be really easy to find the counterparts in Belle's code.)
Weeks? Belle said the change is going to be suprisingly small and will hopefully only take a few days:
It doubt it will take more than a day to create a patched version. The code is seperated by character, as in all of Evelyn stuff is in a file callled evelyn.rpy. In addition to that, Belle wrote out all variables and what they mean at the beginning of every script. It's like a beautiful homework assingment waiting to be turned in.
Here's what I see a patch needs to do:
- replace the new file with the old evelyn.rpy
- check if there are entirely new lines of code in evelyn.rpy, add those and change them if they refer to their new realtionship.
- check for differences in the other files (like tutorial.rpy and progression_scripts.rpy) with a text editor that can compare files and change those back.
Or probably even easier:
- download original version of 0.32
- download the upcoming patreon-approved version of 0.32
- download the upcoming 0.33 with endgame part 3
- Compare the new 0.32 and 0.33 for new additions
- add those additions to the old 0.32 and change anything that warrants a change regarding Evelyn's and MC's relationship.
(This may be more tricky if 0.33 uses variables that don't exist in the original 0.32, but again it should be really easy to find the counterparts in Belle's code.)
Don't edit the scripts, use string replacements. Every time it sees the new text, you serve the old text instead. By doing it that way, the patch is still compatible with newer versions, just without the added text.
Don't edit the scripts, use string replacements. Every time it sees the new text, you serve the old text instead. By doing it that way, the patch is still compatible with newer versions, just without the added text.
will it work if the changes aren't just replacing "sister" with something else? because your description gives me Vietnam flashbacks of unpatched games from early days of Patreon's war on incest. Neighbor living in a different neighborhood but somehow still being roommates with your landlady type of shit
will it work if the changes aren't just replacing "sister" with something else? because your description gives me Vietnam flashbacks of unpatched games from early days of Patreon's war on incest. Neighbor living in a different neighborhood but somehow still being roommates with your landlady type of shit
Something like label overrides that would show the old dialogue whenever the censored version is called looks like a good solution but that would only make sense if new dialogue is called in the same places as the old one. I have to see what changes Belle does before I can think of a good way to restore the removed content
Well being watched it will be impossible for Belle to do it if she even would want to take the risk, which she answered with a nope for completely valid reasons from her pov. For an evil modder it will take at least a few weeks to make that patch from scratch as it is also taking Belle that long to rework it and she has to change a lot of code as shown in her last patreon post. So that will have to be an incredibly passionate modder that also will have to work out how Belle was planning to do last parts of game originally. So even if someone like that would come along, do not expect so for a few months.
Since Patreon monitors this forum as well as Discord, it's best to not even talk about such things, lest Patreon chooses to rejecct Belle's efforts to comply. Please don't undermine Belle's effort.
