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bews

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1. Have you revealed the crone's dark secret? Because if you have, you'd know that she isn't actually a crone.
Ofc I did, I finished all quests. I just don't like her and she always will be crone to me.

2. You only get money from primrose if you haven't done much of anything to make her like you.
The game says she loves me, but since she was in jail for 1 day I get this instead no matter what.

I guess you didn't pay enough attention to the ways that the game tells you what to prioritize, which is training up your skills and revealing secrets.
I did train skills, but I went for courage and agility iirc first. I also got all clues, but couldn't use them bc no training. I just didn't expect the second deadline, it says 50 days in the beginning, but in reality it's only 24.
 

Nishka

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I did train skills, but I went for courage and agility iirc first. I also got all clues, but couldn't use them bc no training. I just didn't expect the second deadline, it says 50 days in the beginning, but in reality it's only 24.
The deadline is 50 days, the only thing that has a deadline on day 24 is Primrose's investigation
 

glaurung

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Well, Samarra will have sex with you regardless (after your first agility training, which is required to complete all quests and win), without any mind control. But otherwise, since you only need four of the five, you can win without manipulating any of them into sex.

Actually, I wonder what the minimum number of sex partners to win the game is…
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Sex with Belle is optional, yes. She won't be as friendly with you, and you won't get the option to tell her to stay instead of her going off to the pond at the end, but I am told you can refuse her (haven't actually done this myself).

Samarra is a bit weird - you can partner with her in the epilogue if you have sex with her during the game, but you can't have a relationship with her during the game. And you get her charisma point even if you don't have sex with her at all after the first training session.

Of the people you can have a relationship with, Nell and Evelyn are old fashioned and you *can't* have sex with them unless you're in a relationship with them. If you're going to get a charisma point from Primrose, I think you have to accept the offer of a boob job after keeping her out of jail in order to get the night time invite... again, haven't actually tested that.

But Callie is the only character who you must have PIV sex with at least once *before* you get the option to become her boyfriend and get a charisma point. Because getting Callie's charisma point requires so many steps (cast the spell, have her do strip shows x3, ask to have sex, be sure you've seen enough of her fashion outfits, be sure you've worked for her enough), she's usually the one I skip having a relationship with if I'm going to skip anyone. (Technically primrose requires almost as many steps, but most of it involves reading books with her that you're going to have to read anyway, so it doesn't feel as much of a chore.)
 

glaurung

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I did train skills, but I went for courage and agility iirc first. I also got all clues, but couldn't use them bc no training. I just didn't expect the second deadline, it says 50 days in the beginning, but in reality it's only 24.
The 7 days you have to investigate and clear her of suspicion once you meet Samarra in her tent on day 17 is more than ample to do everything needed.
 

bews

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The deadline is 50 days, the only thing that has a deadline on day 24 is Primrose's investigation
Yeah, but if u fail that u won't get charisma point and it will be bad end anyway.

The 7 days you have to investigate and clear her of suspicion once you meet Samarra in her tent on day 17 is more than ample to do everything needed.
Sure if u have coins. But I had 0, so had to spend 2 days on hunts bc Callie was busy those days. Then another day for work + training. So -3 days out of 7.

Holding down the control key lets you fast forward through already seen dialogue... which makes it much less time consuming to start over and change your approach.
This would be the case IF this game didn't have those clues and kinda sandbox approach. To select the clue u still need to read it, and then u need to understand ur current progress with everyone to correctly decide what to do next.
 
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Dr. FuckFace

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So, is there a any good reasons why i should start over?
Played 0.41 trough i think and it was 1.37 GB
Half year later
Saves wont work and Final is 1.0 is 1.38GB


Smells like a bullshit progress:poop:
Or am i just too cynical?
 

glaurung

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And how long do I have to wait for that? I have only 2 days, but nothing happens.
Getting the invite to become Callie's boyfriend involves several steps. The hard part is when the game checks to see how well she likes you.

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glaurung

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So, is there a any good reasons why i should start over?
Played 0.41 trough i think and it was 1.37 GB
Half year later
Saves wont work and Final is 1.0 is 1.38GB


Smells like a bullshit progress:poop:
Or am i just too cynical?
You are being cynical. The game is finished now, bugs mostly squashed and all content polished up, sub par sex scenes made nicer, more clues sprinkled through the dialogue and such. Part of doing all that involved changes that required making the save games incompatible, sadly.

Assuming you won the game previously: The game has achievements now. Once you've played the game through once, in the "new game plus" mode, there is now new content with Sister Agnes in the church. If neither of those matter to you, then you don't need to bother replaying.
 

Tromilka

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So, is there a any good reasons why i should start over?
Played 0.41 trough i think and it was 1.37 GB
Half year later
Saves wont work and Final is 1.0 is 1.38GB


Smells like a bullshit progress:poop:
Or am i just too cynical?
Well, you can read the changelog. You'll see that it's mostly tweaks and fixes and some rerenders rather than new content (with most of the new content revolving around Sister Agnes, which is only available in "New Game+" after you complete it once). The versioning simply indicates that the game is now finished, but it looks like 0.41 was already more or less complete, content-wise. If you completed it at that time, the improvements and new content may not be enough reason to replay it.

It's not "bullshit progress," though, since the additional work has made the game exceptionally well polished.
 

Sasarko99

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So I'm stuck with Evelyn's small secret I don't know what I'm missing and I already found her buttplug, the guide is very useless as it doesn't provide any actual info on what needs to be done or how to do it, just vague hints that you can figure out on your own. An actual walkthrough would actually be more helpful.
 

Nishka

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So I'm stuck with Evelyn's small secret I don't know what I'm missing and I already found her buttplug, the guide is very useless as it doesn't provide any actual info on what needs to be done or how to do it, just vague hints that you can figure out on your own. An actual walkthrough would actually be more helpful.
I am actually very close to finishing a full "play through guide" I won't call it a WT, since I don't have all the stats put in, and it's made so that you get all relationships, but I would think the most players would be able to see where they should "say no" to not go into a relationship they don't want.
 

glaurung

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So I'm stuck with Evelyn's small secret I don't know what I'm missing and I already found her buttplug, the guide is very useless as it doesn't provide any actual info on what needs to be done or how to do it, just vague hints that you can figure out on your own. An actual walkthrough would actually be more helpful.
I wrote the guide so as to not completely spoil the game, which is why it lists the clues you need but doesn't go into what choices you need to make while revealing the secret.

It's not that complicated. You can just try each of the multiple choices one by one until you find the right answer (the page up key is your friend). Or, if you really don't want to do that, go look at one of the online walkthroughs and search it to see the exact choices you need to make.

ETA: I added a section to my guide that provides hints for the multiple choice questions you have to answer for some of the secrets.
 
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You are being cynical. The game is finished now, bugs mostly squashed and all content polished up, sub par sex scenes made nicer, more clues sprinkled through the dialogue and such. Part of doing all that involved changes that required making the save games incompatible, sadly.

Assuming you won the game previously: The game has achievements now. Once you've played the game through once, in the "new game plus" mode, there is now new content with Sister Agnes in the church. If neither of those matter to you, then you don't need to bother replaying.
Well, you can read the changelog. You'll see that it's mostly tweaks and fixes and some rerenders rather than new content (with most of the new content revolving around Sister Agnes, which is only available in "New Game+" after you complete it once). The versioning simply indicates that the game is now finished, but it looks like 0.41 was already more or less complete, content-wise. If you completed it at that time, the improvements and new content may not be enough reason to replay it.

It's not "bullshit progress," though, since the additional work has made the game exceptionally well polished.

Yeah, might be too cynical, but for me roping patreons(im not) on for that feels like cheating monkeys. over? Half a year and dev spend it on what?
Hoped there would be somehow more than the changelog says. Just hate it when writers good as belle take the princes/prince road where they feel privileged to milk the shit out of dumb bastards.
 
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Nishka

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It is finally done, I have made a full playthough guide, day-by-day, step-by-step guide on how to get the good ending, with all abilities and almost all relationships in the first playthrough. So Belle is it you I have to go through to get it posted or are there some other process involved?
 
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glaurung

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I have added a small section to my guide that provides hints for secrets where you have to answer multiple choice questions.
 
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professorx10

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It is finally done, I have made a full playthough guide, day-by-day, step-by-step guide on how to get the good ending, with all abilities and almost all relationships in the first playthrough. So Belle is it you I have to go through to get it posted or are there some other process involved?
just copy it to a standard upload platform and then post the link to it here... use Mega-dropbox-any of the others will do. simps
 
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DarkExecutive

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Drat, someone else said the probe memory thing wasn't actually needed and I took them at their word. Will make sure that bit goes back into the guide.
I think there's some confusion between "Invade Mind" and "Probe Memory." Probe Memory is not required for a good ending. You don't need to ever use it or even learn it.

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Tromilka

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Yeah, might be too cynical, but for me roping patreons(im not) on for that feels like cheating monkeys. over? Half a year and dev spend it on what?
Hoped there would be somehow more than the changelog says. Just hate it when writers good as belle take the princes/prince road where they feel privileged to milk the shit out of dumb bastards.
Personally I hate it when good writers leave a game half-assed and unpolished because they're not willing to put in the time and effort to do all the "small boring stuff" to bring every part up to a really high standard, and instead add scene after scene of padding that doesn't contribute to the main storyline just to cater to supporters, making the game ever more rambling and unfocused.

As long as patrons weren't misled about what would change in upcoming releases, or key features were held back to the last in order to keep them on board, which I have no reason to suspect, I don't see any problem here.

In any case, now that it's finished (bar any small post-release bugfixes and tweaks) it's the end-product that matters, and as someone who's only played the final version, I can vouch for the fact that it is excellent, with a truly outstanding level of polish. Looking over the changelog, I definitely think my experience as a player was enhanced by the improvements in the final couple of updates, so I'm glad Belle took the time to make it achieve its full potential.
 
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