Ren'Py Completed Lord King [v1.6] [ArchonStudio]

[Deathlore421]

I am waiting for neither of them. I think she just done what she believed is true and gave her friend another chance. I dont say it is right thing to do so but it is understandable from a perspective. And she is the reason of MC is alive in the first place, without her help MC and his friends would either be dead or among the other slaves.

Her act was not a full blown betrayal in my eyes, her act was trying to rescue a friend who have been defiled again and again

I'm confused, the only way I can think of that someone would be waiting for neither is if they want Tania to continue like she is at the end of this update, as a concubine that MC is a bit upset with. Which is definitely possible, so correct me if that's what you want. But, if MC forgives Tania, that's redemption. And if MC does anything darker to her.. Well that's something I don't like thinking about.

 

[Deathlore421]

Fair enough. Just remember, those who complain make the most noise.

You see it as an exaggeration, but I would not care if it the dev decided to make her wait until we've taken over the city, no.
In some ways, it could be a fitting punishment, for her to have to watch it all happen and not having any power, becoming a forgotten ho in the harem.
Or, at that point, we may well accept her back.
Either way, I am happy to wait until the author decides to add to her arc.

Bro you just blew my mind, If the mc had like some dialogue to himself about leaving her like that until after he took the city I would 100% buy it. That would be fitting. I guess I'm not really mad so long as we get some sense that her arc isn't going to be ignored completely.

 

[Spfjolietjake]

Bro you just blew my mind, If the mc had like some dialogue to himself about leaving her like that until after he took the city I would 100% buy it. That would be fitting. I guess I'm not really mad so long as we get some sense that her arc isn't going to be ignored completely.

I don't think it will be ignored, but the dev probably wants to make the best of it for both the ones like me that want her to really pay and those that want to forgive her for needlessly getting people killed and betraying someone she "cared" about.

Both sides don't see eye to eye and that will take some planning to pull off. I really enjoy this story and I enjoyed the twist. Now i want justice while others want harmony...

 

[Lord Verminaard]

I'm confused, the only way I can think of that someone would be waiting for neither is if they want Tania to continue like she is at the end of this update, as a concubine that MC is a bit upset with. Which is definitely possible, so correct me if that's what you want. But, if MC forgives Tania, that's redemption. And if MC does anything darker to her.. Well that's something I don't like thinking about.

Redemption is much more radical term then what I have in my mind. The way I see it, once she loves someone, she is ready to risk her neck for them and that is not a trait that should change. Only wrong thing she done is acting before talking to MC. If she would like to MC to give a second chance to Megan, it wovld be much sweater. So I dont see a reason for redemption. Just a reson to forgive her is enough and that would be anything, to be honest even time would do.

I think waiting for her to relinquish all her ties to past because of MC is a betreyal. I mean if she could easily forget her friend when she is in a tight spot, how can we trust her? Wouldnt she do same thing to us in the future?

 

[Deathlore421]

Redemption is much more radical term then what I have in my mind. The way I see it, once she loves someone, she is ready to risk her neck for them and that is not a trait that should change. Only wrong thing she done is acting before talking to MC. If she would like to MC to give a second chance to Megan, it wovld be much sweater. So I dont see a reason for redemption. Just a reson to forgive her is enough and that would be anything, to be honest even enough would do.

I think waiting for her to relinquish all her ties to past because of MC is a betreyal. I mean if she could easily forget her friend when she is in a tight spot, how can we trust her? Wouldnt she do same thing to us in the future?

Ahhh okay I get you, I'm used to thinking of redemption as a much more branch term.

 

[Lord Verminaard]

I don't think it will be ignored, but the dev probably wants to make the best of it for both the ones like me that want her to really pay and those that want to forgive her for needlessly getting people killed and betraying someone she "cared" about.

Both sides don't see eye to eye and that will take some planning to pull off. I really enjoy this story and I enjoyed the twist. Now i want justice while others want harmony...

Ironicly I think this would be provided best by ignoring her for a update or two If MC would ignore her for one or two update, then he starts a conversation with her like "After this much time and a lot of thinking about you, I still dont know how I feel about you", It would provide best outcome for both parties in storywise.

 

[whichone]

I guess, for me, the bottom line is that, regardless of how I feel about what she did, she's currently off the table, so effectively off my radar.
There are other girls that I'm currently more interested in seeing the MC progress with.

 

[zeerin]

I don't know anything about a mod, but but you DO need to do her holiday event in order to continue her storyline.

Unless the St. whoever feast repeats itself after awhile, that timeline doesn't line up. And then there's the fact that the Cat content for the feast is optional.

 

[TheDevian]

Killing Taina (or any woman) is not going to happen as punishment, they are too valuable as breeding fodder according to the lore of the world.

You will be able to punish her sexually, because it's a porn game (and of course you are free to mostly ignore her) but that is about it, I would not expect anything else. I have suggested a number of other options to him for later, but it's hard to say what he will add (of any of it), and we are all free to make suggestions there. You never know what he will choose.

 

[TheDevian]

Unless the St. whoever feast repeats itself after awhile, that timeline doesn't line up. And then there's the fact that the Cat content for the feast is optional.

No, the event was a one time thing, and it doesn't change anything in the timeline. You had a choice, and if you chose to ignore her, she thought you didn't care about her. This closes her storyline, as it is also optional.

In future versions, the player will be alerted to this so it will no longer be a surprise. As of now, there were a few options posted to get around this, depending on how you want to go about it. If I had known this would be the case, I would have asked him to change it sooner, but I didn't learn of that requirement until some of you started having problems.

I did try to get him to add a way to play those events later, but he hasn't figured out a way to do so that he thought made sense.

Personally, having tested/proofread all of them, I found that Megan and Cat's stories were the most important lore wise, so I chose to keep those as my canon. I recommend playing through them if you like story, whether you want to keep that on your save or not. One of the saves I posted was right before that event starts, if you want to see it.

 

[zeerin]

No, the event was a one time thing, and it doesn't change anything in the timeline. You had a choice, and if you chose to ignore her, she thought you didn't care about her. This closes her storyline, as it is also optional.

In future versions, the player will be alerted to this so it will no longer be a surprise. As of now, there were a few options posted to get around this, depending on how you want to go about it. If I had known this would be the case, I would have asked him to change it sooner, but I didn't learn of that requirement until some of you started having problems.

I did try to get him to add a way to play those events later, but he hasn't figured out a way to do so that he thought made sense.

Personally, having tested/proofread all of them, I found that Megan and Cat's stories were the most important lore wise, so I chose to keep those as my canon. I recommend playing through them if you like story, whether you want to keep that on your save or not. One of the saves I posted was right before that event starts, if you want to see it.

Yes, actually. It does fuck the timeline. Because The St. whoever event happens before she can easily be cured. Which means during that event we're fucking a future version of Cat.

 

[Spfjolietjake]

Killing Taina (or any woman) is not going to happen as punishment, they are too valuable as breeding fodder according to the lore of the world.

You will be able to punish her sexually, because it's a porn game (and of course you are free to mostly ignore her) but that is about it, I would not expect anything else. I have suggested a number of other options to him for later, but it's hard to say what he will add (of any of it), and we are all free to make suggestions there. You never know what he will choose.

Of course no killing (even the bitch) but hopefully the dev takes advantage of the immense divide between her sexual pleasure and real punishment. I know it's too much to ask but for example her losing her anal cherry as Dex and megan is forced to watch would be more in terms of justice than her getting off on a bdsm toy... just saying...

 

[TheDevian]

Yes, actually. It does fuck the timeline. Because The St. whoever event happens before she can easily be cured. Which means during that event we're fucking a future version of Cat.

I will mention that to him, for those of us playing the whole time, that was not the case...

...he said he would look into it.

Of course no killing (even the bitch) but hopefully the dev takes advantage of the immense divide between her sexual pleasure and real punishment. I know it's too much to ask but for example her losing her anal cherry as Dex and megan is forced to watch would be more in terms of justice than her getting off on a bdsm toy... just saying...

Hard to say, I have recently suggested some very similar ideas, so almost anything is possible (though hard to see how we could make Dex do anything, any time soon).

 

[cavebear]

ok so to get cat into my harem i have to restart and do the xmas sceen with her, there is no fix fro the dev for this??

 

[TheDevian]

ok so to get cat into my harem i have to restart and do the xmas sceen with her, there is no fix fro the dev for this??

There are a couple, if you search, I posted a couple of save options, and someone posted a console command they said worked.

 

[Cartageno]

(...) One update without adding to her story? Two? Three? (...)

If MC would ignore her for one or two update, then he starts a conversation with her like "After this much time and a lot of thinking about you, (...)

To add something to the discussion which was not mentioned so far: I do not think "number of updates" is a good indicator of time. I am not even talking about the fact that updates can vary wildly in size ("Kitchen update: now you have a kitchen. You can make a sandwich there, which as of now has no consequences whatsoever" vs "Hey guys, I was bored and finished the whole game yesterday evening, have fun.") although that also plays a part.

What I'd like to address is that this is a WIP, and any event can be prolongued later on, or shortened. Any character can be on the sidelines for 5 updates but in-story once continued they pick up right where we left off, so if you just start the game with that version, what was 5 updates for those waiting will literally only be one day in game and the waiting would be non-existent anymore. Or the other way round: a situation is resolved in the very next update but has a seven week wait included. Now if we just farm raids to get all the content it will feel short, but played in a later version it may be very long. Add to that that in a sandbox style game you can always have events not trigger because you have not yet danced for the harem (random example), which would be a prerequisite for the next step being taken, and in my opinion these update numbers become quite meaningless. It would have to be judged once the game is finished.

To me, any conclusion to Taina's treachery will need time, but in-game time, not real-life time. Because the order of stuff in game is probably not the same order we as followers during development will experience it.

 

[Lord Verminaard]

Killing Taina (or any woman) is not going to happen as punishment, they are too valuable as breeding fodder according to the lore of the world.

You will be able to punish her sexually, because it's a porn game (and of course you are free to mostly ignore her) but that is about it, I would not expect anything else. I have suggested a number of other options to him for later, but it's hard to say what he will add (of any of it), and we are all free to make suggestions there. You never know what he will choose.

In story she is the only reason MC can be a lord, so killing her is impossible with respect to the story. But I would like to see a scene we kill Taiana and tomorrow our palace overrun by Queens and East Lords armies.

To me, any conclusion to Taina's treachery will need time, but in-game time, not real-life time. Because the order of stuff in game is probably not the same order we as followers during development will experience it.

Of course you are right, I wrote this thought considering every update adds several weeks to the game-time.

 

[TheDevian]

In story she is the only reason MC can be a lord, so killing her is impossible with respect to the story. But I would like to see a scene we kill Taiana and tomorrow our palace overrun by Queens and East Lords armies.

It has also been stated that killing women goes against tradition in both the city and the wastelands. They are too valuable to the future of humanity. A woman needs almost a year to have a kid and recover, but one guy can knock up a woman every 10 min or so.

 

[gregers]

Punishments can wait; if we could just chuck her in a cage and ignore her for a while, I'd be fine with that. To me it's her remaining on the MC's council that beggars belief. How can you have someone who has repeatedly abetted attempts to kill you—and caused the deaths of many others in the process—remain as a trusted advisor?

 

[J.Buttler]

Punishments can wait; if we could just chuck her in a cage and ignore her for a while, I'd be fine with that. To me it's her remaining on the MC's council that beggars belief. How can you have someone who has repeatedly abetted attempts to kill you—and caused the deaths of many others in the process—remain as a trusted advisor?

Nah. Not trusted advisor anymore. There are some dialogues about it