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Honestly, if you're doing this just to make Carl more likeable, I don't know if it will be worth your time and effort, because like you said, a lot of us are biased against him. That scene is indeed a mess though, and it would be interesting to see your take on it. Of course if you think it will help with his (or even Sara's and/or the MC's) character developement and it will make your life easier in the future, that's a different story. In the end, what the fuck do I know? I'm an engineer, not a writer.
What you said about him getting killed by the MC's hands, being an option, will definitely make it easier for some people to tolerate him.
It's all of this and most importantly it's because rape is against Patreon's guidelines. Now Patreon is pretty haphazard when it comes to enacting those guidelines but I don't want to take the risk. I've already had messages of people telling me to remove NTR or else they'll report the game for rape, so yeah, this needs to be done either way.Tbf I'm not sure it worth the time and effort needed to put into it so that he can become a likeable character. Just leave him as it is for the hardcore cuck fans, and give the option to kill him off/get rid of him as soon as possible, for those who already hate him and most likely won't change their minds about him. Because his initial actions were what they were, you'd really need to revise him from scratch to change the image he already has.
While I do hate NTR wholeheartedly, mostly because it's token, generic, and serves no real purpose beside being pathetic, threatening a dev and ratting it out is still a fucking dick move.It's all of this and most importantly it's because rape is against Patreon's guidelines. Now Patreon is pretty haphazard when it comes to enacting those guidelines but I don't want to take the risk. I've already had messages of people telling me to remove NTR or else they'll report the game for rape, so yeah, this needs to be done either way.
It's all of this and most importantly it's because rape is against Patreon's guidelines. Now Patreon is pretty haphazard when it comes to enacting those guidelines but I don't want to take the risk. I've already had messages of people telling me to remove NTR or else they'll report the game for rape, so yeah, this needs to be done either way.
Yeah, I won't play anything with unavoidable NTR, swinging, sharing or whatever involves other dudes, and I've given shit to games that had stuff like that without the proper tags or they were added as unavoidable content (out of nowhere) later on into them, but threatening someone's livelihood, just because you don't like something, is really fucked up.While I do hate NTR wholeheartedly, mostly because it's token, generic, and serves no real purpose beside being pathetic, threatening a dev and ratting it out is still a fucking dick move.If something isn't your cup of tea, the easiest is just to avoid it, like I do with Kirsess games for example.
You should screenshot those PMs to the mods and get them perma banned.It's all of this and most importantly it's because rape is against Patreon's guidelines. Now Patreon is pretty haphazard when it comes to enacting those guidelines but I don't want to take the risk. I've already had messages of people telling me to remove NTR or else they'll report the game for rape, so yeah, this needs to be done either way.
Well, there are only so many creative ways one can get a character cucked. The problem with NTR as a genre from a writing standpoint is that in pretty much every other genre (with a slight exception of horror) in order to move your plot forward you want your MC to be proactive, competent and somewhat relatable but in NTR it's the exact opposite. So in order for an NTR game to be good, the focus needs to be entirely on the women MC is interested in and MC needs to be as much of a bystander as possible which creates trouble for the non-ntr path. So at the end of the day, the best thing to do for me is to separate both paths as quickly as possible.While I do hate NTR wholeheartedly, mostly because it's token, generic, and serves no real purpose beside being pathetic, threatening a dev and ratting it out is still a fucking dick move.If something isn't your cup of tea, the easiest is just to avoid it, like I do with Kirsess games for example.
That's the internet for you.Yeah, I won't play anything with unavoidable NTR, swinging, sharing or whatever involves other dudes, and I've given shit to games that had stuff like that without the proper tags or they were added as unavoidable content (out of nowhere) later on into them, but threatening someone's livelihood, just because you don't like something, is really fucked up.
Oh let me be clear, the trolls PM'd Agentgames on the Patreon page not here. I've personally had no problems with people on the site. The criticisms (at least the ones I have addressed) have been constructive and if anything, I've had a couple of guys message me saying they like the NTR in the game.You should screenshot those PMs to the mods and get them perma banned.
While I am neutral on NTR and am on the no NTR path in this game myself, anyone resorting to threats and Blackmail is really beyond the pale. It also hurts F95. While this is a pirate site, many devs still participate and contribute freely. It's douches like these that cause Devs to shun the forum.
The blackmailers are also hypocritical. If Carl using mind control is rape (and there is a case for it) then the MC using mind control is also rape, so the whole game is kaput regardless of how you re-write that particular scene - as are dozens upon dozens of other games from Dreams of Desire to The gift to Ring of Lust. The rapey aspect is just a facade for trying to force devs to make games to their liking. Pathetic cancel culture.
There wasn't a missing scene, I did write the text for the possibility where MC hasn't used his powers on anyone but maybe there was a problem with the code. AG is not exactly a coding expert which is why we recently hired a coder.Not a bad game here, I have a bit of sympathy for the new writer having to deal with the reworking of the NTR and Non NTR paths and there seems to be some missing scenes halfway through as the pathetically weak MC mentions using his powers when I hadn't used them yet, just before the mall scene.
I don't like Carl either but I've only played the Non NTR route so far but I despise Zel even more, I really hate that bitch especially forcing you into a date with the therapist as well as forcing you to become her bitch, I really hope there's no forced romantic contact with her in the future, but going by the end scene it seems there may well be. I hope we get to destroy her and her cult
You should report those people here, publicly. There's a chance they'll have the same nickname or avatar or copy/pasted messages, so that mods can ban them for life.It's all of this and most importantly it's because rape is against Patreon's guidelines. Now Patreon is pretty haphazard when it comes to enacting those guidelines but I don't want to take the risk. I've already had messages of people telling me to remove NTR or else they'll report the game for rape, so yeah, this needs to be done either way.
For the non patrons,Can anyone please convey what the status update says?You must be registered to see the links
Hello everyone,
I hope you guys are handling the quarantine well, I just wanted to tell you that from now on this is how the updates will be provided, on a weekly basis every Sunday. So yeah, here is the status update on the next release. The writing for the new scenes is mostly done, as in only one scene remains to be written. After which editing follows on my front. On Agentgames' side, the rendering is going well; he's only two scenes behind as of now which is a lot better than the last time.
Another news is that the first scene with Carl (where he r@pes MC's *sigh*... landlady) needs to be rewritten in order to fit better with Patreon's guidelines. Don't worry, the renders are not lost, they will be reused in the future.
One more important news is that we were on bit of a recruitment drive, we hired a bunch of proofreaders to help iron out the problems in the game and we've also got ourselves a coder to clean up the code.
That's it from me.
Be safe,
Sihil