Ooh boy, seems I have my post-release work cut out for me here.
So what all had to be removed to fit patreon?
One rape scene that happens earlier on in the series but it was an important scene as it shaped the bias against and for a few characters (mostly against).
Neither, really. It has one non-ntr scene though, compared to no NTR scene.
Does no one make anything on subscribestar? Because it seems like a lot to have to rewrite a game that has already been rewritten to keep a three hundred dollar patreon going and with patreon supposedly heading in the direction of clamping down hard on adult content and being more and more restrictive it would seem to be a great time for smaller devs to jump ship before they get choked out.
That said I like the idea of this game and the renders will be interested to see how it develops and hopefully won't have so many more big setbacks.
Though I know the dev is around here and I recall he was the artist and took over the project after the writer left, you do good work man, why not just write what you want and start over or do your own original game? You still have time before the money coming in becomes golden handcuffs.
Well AG and I planned on setting up a subscribeStar as soon as this update got out but he kind of overworked himself with the coding so I've decided to it later. The idea is not to just migrate away to SubscribeStar but create build there that is less... inhibited
I got the incest path, and frankly i'm disappointed he calls his mother by her first name instead of mom.....wtf
That shouldn't happen, it'd be great if you sent a screenshot.
So anyway, how's your sex life?
Huh, I thought that was just a weird bug with the incest patch on my end. That's a bit of a shame.
It is a bug, or rather a faulty patch because in the script I've made sure to call Sara "mom" in bold letters whenever MC addresses her.
i don't understand? i have played this game now (first time playing it) and the only ntr scene i could find was the one with the police woman.
has the other ntr scenes been removed????? or what.
One has been removed but I
think there should be more. Either way, there's one NTR scene planned in the next update
Mmh ... its feels like there are missing scenes, pics or sentences. Often its does not add up imho. e.g: The MC tells his GF that he hat to take care of his "mom" because she had a blackout at her yoga course ... but that never happened.
Sometimes the same character has 2 following screens with text and it seems to be a reaction to something the MC said, but he did not.
Or another example. Quite early on the "mom" tels the MC that she wants to apply as a prof at the commity college. Later they talk together an the MC says her she should work at the college as a prof and she says she will think about it ... wtf?
The game is all over the place and so many things make no sense ... or should be explained better. Edit: Oh another one. when the demon tell the MC her name
he ask what his powers are, beside the laser shooting ... i never uses his powers up to that point. Tbh - I dint even knew he had powers because I picked the choices not to use them. That shows what I mean - the game never told me that I have powers, what they are or anything.
Edit2: Same problem later when the sister is back and the MC tells her that he works in the casino. After that the "mom" tells him to keep her out of that world ... why does she know that? She got "greenlit" by the black dude and then the scene was over and she never talked to the MC about anything after that. ... sorry - so broken and messed up :/
Dont know what happend here, because in general this is quite fun and the renders are good ...
Few problems here should've been fixed an update ago but couldn't have been as AG was the only coder we had and it's not exactly his forte. I shouldn't blame this on him though as he really worked hard to finish this update. Either way, most of these problems will be fixed with our new coder whose meticulousness is kind of his defining trait. As for others, like mom knowing about MC working for the mafia, this is a problem I solved in the scene where mom and MC are watching TV together there's a little conversation there about this thing. Maybe it wasn't coded in, I'll ask AG just to be sure.
One sex scene, and a whole bunch of text that I tried getting into, but wound up translating to blah blah blah. MC is being written as an extremely moral character, so those that are hoping for some mom and sister scenarios, best look elsewhere.. No choices really at all, just a visual novel. For a game about imagination, there doesn't seem to be much of it being used in the story. MC treats the goddess that granted him all this power like garbage, he acts like a child with the moral hangups of a catholic priest. He finally uses some of his powers on someone, can literally do anything he wants with the person keeping no memory of what transpires....so what does he do? He tells her to go to bed and sleep....hahahaha
Sorry Dev, I can tell you've put a lot of work in this game, but dude...spice up some scenes!!
I wouldn't say he's an
extremely moral character. In fact, unless I am mistaken, he pretty much does just one "good" thing in the entire story i.e. saving the old man from Pete, which=would be considered really moral and brave if Pete could've killed MC with the gun but he really couldn't do much that could actually harm the MC so MC didn't really have much to lose either way and he decided to not have what he perceives to be a helpless old man harmed. I guess the point I am making here is that MC doesn't really want to do
immoral things which per se doesn't make him particularly moral as much as well, it makes him not immoral. Now THAT is a conscious decision on my path. We've already seen an MC who is a likable pervert who'll turn his mother into a mindless sex doll as soon as he gains mind control powers without giving it a second thought in plenty of games, here, I want the player to have a choice and I want to give the MC the choice to determine if that's what he wants to do. Another problem is that any decent person would not
want to do what most protagonists in sex games do to the people who're closest to they are out of willful ignorance. Now this MC would do all those things as well and more but they will be a result of the corruption that the player's choices caused, it wouldn't just be something along the lines of "Hey, I've got these sick powers now, let's see who I'll molest first."
Besides, the reason why most games do this is because they want the MC to be as much of a blank slate as possible is so that the player can put his personality in the MC and play essentially as himself. I, on the other hand, want the character to have at least
some personality. I'm not saying one of these approaches is objectively better, simply, that this is works for this particular story the best.
As for spicing up the scenes, well, my priority is to have the characters established first, then comes the good stuff. Otherwise, what's the point
My problem is, I dont see where the last scene comes from ... I haven't chose her in any way ... and there were no real scenes that justify that situation. As in my previews post ... there is so much that feel wrong and not justified.
Either the story is pushed through here, no matter what you decide, or there are some gaps and errors in the code that lead to this result.
There is also far too little explanation about the events if it makes sense or would make more sense in my opinion.
The game is nice, despite the supernatural approach. Therefore it is all the more unfortunate that it seems to run so rough.
This is something that I honestly cannot solve. What I mean by that is that incest is one of the main selling points of the game and the mom character is simply too central to the story as a love interest to be an option. I should clarify this by saying there are some characters that will be a romantic interest regardless of whether player chooses. This ties into what I was saying above about MC having a distinct personality of his own.
She explains that she had to do that to prepare him for what's to come. In order for him to obtain this great power, he had to go through certain transformations. The crap that happened to his mom was the mafia boss's call, not the goddess, and she wasn't happy with him for what he did, and will take his position away as punishment...Translation I got out of it was, it's all part of the process.
MC is to be her most powerful warrior, and lets not forget she's in every sense a god that has created life, and has lost everything. And the last scene, his mom was trying to get through to him that she has more than maternal feelings for her son, and he responds by zapping her with his power, and sending her to bed. Hi
This argument reminds me of one a lot of theists make when asked why there's evil in this world if the god is all-knowing, all-powerful, and all-good. It goes something along the lines of "Evil and suffering exist because it's god's plan and we, as mortals, do not and cannot understand his divine plan." Now I am not here to argue for or against this argument but the problem in our story here is that it's pretty obvious right away that Zel is neither all-knowing nor all-powerful and certainly not all-good especially when she decides she will kill MC's mom if he doesn't do what she wants, we realize that she isn't all good. So yes, what she is doing is intended to make MC stronger but given the general air of distrust between her and Carl and her and MC, there's no real reason for MC to believe that she has his best interest in mind in the long term.
As for the zapping part, well, I was trying to make it clear that the Mom is scared of MC when she realizes that the MC might be using Darklight though she doesn't really know the specifics that we do.
The events in this story are really questionable. Everything happens so fast with limited choices. I wonder what goes on Devs minds. They should start being more creative.
I AM LITERALLY BUILDING AN ENTIRE WORLD, A MAGIC SYSTEM AND A PANTHEON OF GODS OUT OF THIN AIR WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT FROM ME?
No but seriously, I try to make sure the events that matter have at least some reasoning behind them to take place. If it doesn't work for you, it doesn't work for you :shrug:
I dont know if this is the best way of doing this but I just wanted to say that there are parts where the text is either missing or something wrong happened.
At the start, after the MC is kidnapped he goes to the autoshop and catches the landlady on the sofa and just declares that he is going to join the mafia, when did that happen?
Well, there are problems with the code that need to be fixed, hopefully we'll iron such inconsistencies out with our new coder. As for my "attention quote," well, this is the thread for my game so I will inevitably end up being somewhat close to the center of the attention. Besides, I don't really gain much from getting attention in an online forum for pirating games, the idea of being here, interacting with the player-base, is to get constructive criticisms about the game so that it can improve. I've tried to be as open-minded as I can about it.
Eh, the corrupt path to be honest is not very corrupt at all IMHO. Honestly, I never really got a sense that there was a moral or corrupt path, the MC is painfully moral and a bit whiny. Honestly, it leaves a feeling this "Lightbringer" they're looking for is in fact the MC all along...he sure acts like it.
MC isn't really what I would call corrupt yet. I've said here before that the paths would really start diverging by episode 3's end, that's when I will have more room and more of a foundation for a corrupt MC, for now, my aim is to establish the characters and the general feel of the world so that things like worldbuilding and foreshadowing don't get in the way of the story when the game really picks up the pace in terms of sex scenes.
I feel like i already played a game with almost same story But it was another game no idea wich game it was
Shhh... THEY don't know that.
No, but I get what you're saying. When I first joined the game it was obvious how much it draws from Dreams of Desire, it was, it would seem to me, the decision on the part of the previous writer as AG hasn't played DoD yet. Since the similarity between these games is so obvious I decided to turn things on their head a bit. Instead of an MC who is little concerned about the morality of his actions, this MC is so concerned to the point it is admittedly whiny, instead of having a likable creepy magic friend, what we have here is a being so powerful and seemingly evil who MC isn't even sure that he can even trust, instead of the realization that magic exists mattering not at all in the world where the MC lives, here, the world is obviously going to be and already has been changed drastically because of this realization.
Sorry for building a wall of text here in this thread but I want the game to get better and addressing genuine and perceived problems with the game is one of the best ways for it to improve. The general impression here is that the game has too many moments that feel awkward. Some of it is flawed coding, some of it is a flawed patch, some of it, as much as I hate to say it, could be bad writing. Either way, I've said this before, your comments will ultimately help me improve the game.
